Did the 2024 presidential election prove our elections have been fixed?

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hoopla
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Or was Trump's victory 'too big to rig'?
sam callahan
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You not get news from PA?

You okay with results taking a month?
Danny Vermin
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Trumps was to big to rig but they have cheated their asses off in the house and senate seats in certain states.
Spotted Ag
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No, it did not. There is still a lot of cheating happening. Voter fraud should carry a very strict penalty. I'm thinking at least 5 years on the first offense. It's not a victimless crime. It's a crime that could potentially steal the voice of millions.
aggiehawg
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I'm a broken record on this but our elections won't be fixed until voter rolls are cleaned up and electronic voting systems investigated thoroughly and brought under control. Ideally they should be done away with but doubtful that happens. More realistic to reform the EAC and CISA to have a robust regulatory oversight over them, including source codes.
aggie93
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aggiehawg said:

I'm a broken record on this but our elections won't be fixed until voter rolls are cleaned up and electronic voting systems investigated thoroughly and brought under control. Ideally they should be done away with but doubtful that happens. More realistic to reform the EAC and CISA to have a robust regulatory oversight over them, including source codes.
Voter ID and severe restrictions on mail in ballots are also key. Only paper ballots. Essentially what Florida does and every vote is counted in a few hours with huge turnout and no controversy. Severe punishment for anyone trying to circumvent the law as well.
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Ag87H2O
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It's three weeks after the election and there are some jurisdictions still not finished counting votes. It's ripe for cheating, particularly in HOR races, and it's absolute insanity. There is zero excuse for the votes not being fully counted by the day after the election. Zero.
aggiehawg
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aggie93 said:

aggiehawg said:

I'm a broken record on this but our elections won't be fixed until voter rolls are cleaned up and electronic voting systems investigated thoroughly and brought under control. Ideally they should be done away with but doubtful that happens. More realistic to reform the EAC and CISA to have a robust regulatory oversight over them, including source codes.
Voter ID and severe restrictions on mail in ballots are also key. Only paper ballots. Essentially what Florida does and every vote is counted in a few hours with huge turnout and no controversy. Severe punishment for anyone trying to circumvent the law as well.
A lot of that can be accomplished with amending HAVA passed in 2002. It has bare minimums for state certifications but little to no enforcement mechanism for states that fail to meet those minimums. Increase those standards and enforce them.
Tom Fox
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The latter.
Helicopter Ben
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Isn't there also a major problem with the census allocating too many seats to blue states? Is anything being done about that?
BadMoonRisin
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We need to get the machines out and return to paper ballots.

There was controversy going back to 2004 election of W about Diebold machines that ended up getting him re-elected. Since then Diebold has turned into many different companies and has ties to ES&S and Dominion.

We also need to get private companies (Runbeck) out of the ballot printing business unless they sign a transparently clause so they can't hide behind being private as well as the ERIC system that helps bloat the voter rolls.
AgBQ-00
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no in fact it is proving quite the opposite. if it weren't for highly motivated overwatch and suing this one would have been "fortified" as well.
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Tramp96
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Get rid of mail in ballots and require voter ID. That's all we have to do to fix this. Period the end.

Military, State, and others on temporary assignment overseas can have coordinated, secure ballots submitted that are multi-step verified and securely transported to the US being the ONLY exceptions.

Artorias
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Our elections are not fixed. As long as there is a lack of complete transparency and they are not fully auditable, they cannot fully be trusted, no matter who "wins".
BlueTaze
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Yes, it provided another solid data point in Dem voter turnout. There is simply no explanation for 81M other than last minute rule changes and uncontrolled pallets of mail ballots. Yes, Biden won the 2020 ballot tally contest. No, it wasn't counting facilities or machines doing the cheating. The dems registered millions of non-voters and cast Biden mail ballots for them. It's really that simple. Additionally, there is no explanation fot the Dems to oppose ID and other election controls. They have been, and want to continue to cheat and therefore oppose any controls to limit that.

Tony Franklins Other Shoe
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How is that California vote coming along? Yeah, plenty of room to be crooked and not just on the presidential race.

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StrickAggie06
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We need block chain based voting backed by Voter ID for registration. Voting takes place at voting sites as normal, and electronic signatures are recorded that are tied to each vote.

Election fraud of any type should be considered treason or sedition, and punishable by death.
APHIS AG
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No, for like a sheep dog guarding the sheep, the wolf will be careful but as soon as the dog is gone thinking that the wolf would leave the sheep alone, the wolf will make its move.

The same with the Democrats. Drop the guard and they will cheat for what is to stop them.

"It is only cheating if you get caught." - Al Bundy
DannyDuberstein
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Too big to rig. Very thankful it wasn't closer because there is a lot of BS still going on
Owlagdad
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Nope. Democrats never rest.
And Republicans ought to get a clue - as they are resting after the election- democrats are working furiously.
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