Sanctuary cities: strip federal support

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9:56p, 11/19/24
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Los Angeles becomes the latest sanctuary city, refusing to cooperate with federal immigration policy.

I hope the feds are able to eliminate federal funding to sanctuary cities. All of it.

If you don't help carry the hay, why should you get to feed at the trough?

Will probably require legislation. The last time Trump tried it through executive action it largely got squashed by the courts. Hopefully they can pass it through reconciliation with the budget bill where it only requires a majority in the Senate and not 60 votes to bypass a filibuster.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/los-angeles-passes-sanctuary-city-ordinance-wake-trump-election-victory
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10:00p, 11/19/24
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1) formally request LA assistance to support removing illegals
2) LA formally refuses
3) send in national guard to remove illegals
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In reply to ktownag08 • 10:10p, 11/19/24
ktownag08 said:
1) formally request LA assistance to support removing illegals
2) LA formally refuses
3) send in national guard to remove illegals


The Trump admin will probably try something like that. And after the first Roundup.. The optics will be so bad they won't do it again. Even though I fully agree that they should.
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10:10p, 11/19/24
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The feds need to be a lot smarter about it than falling back on the brute force approach.

Example: instead of breaking down doors in the middle of the night to round up illegals, simply wait for them outside in the morning on their way to work and take them into custody. And start with the criminals first instead of the lawn guy who's just trying to make a buck to feed his family. Not saying he doesn't need to go back and get in line the right way, but priorities and optics matter.

Same thing with the cities. Instead of sending in the National Guard, find a legal way to cut off the funds. It's like cutting off the cell phone for a teenager -- it will get results.
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In reply to MemphisAg1 • 10:13p, 11/19/24
MemphisAg1 said:
The feds need to be a lot smarter about it than falling back on the brute force approach.

Example: instead of breaking down doors in the middle of the night to round up illegals, simply wait for them outside in the morning on their way to work and take them into custody. And start with the criminals first instead of the lawn guy who's just trying to make a buck to feed his family. Not saying he doesn't need to go back and get in line the right way, but priorities and optics matter.

Same thing with the cities. Instead of sending in the National Guard, find a legal way to cut off the funds. It's like cutting off the cell phone for a teenager -- it will get results.


And the libs and MSM will then pull the heart strings showing all these poor illegals starving.... Homeless.... Freezing in the winter cold.

Videos of little brown children running around with no shoes on. Because you know that's exactly what the libs will do to manipulate the story. They won't show all the donations coming in, etc. It will be the cold heartless trumpsters causing us and doing this
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10:19p, 11/19/24
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Or let all the illegals move to the sanctuary cities. They vote for this. Let them deal with the consequences. Focus on everywhere else first and then see how things stand after the cities are overrun.
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In reply to C@LAg • 10:24p, 11/19/24
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C@LAg said:
MemphisAg1 said:
The feds need to be a lot smarter about it than falling back on the brute force approach.

Example: instead of breaking down doors in the middle of the night to round up illegals, simply wait for them outside in the morning on their way to work and take them into custody. And start with the criminals first instead of the lawn guy who's just trying to make a buck to feed his family. Not saying he doesn't need to go back and get in line the right way, but priorities and optics matter.

Same thing with the cities. Instead of sending in the National Guard, find a legal way to cut off the funds. It's like cutting off the cell phone for a teenager -- it will get results.


And the libs and MSM will then pull the heart strings showing all these poor illegals starving.... Homeless.... Freezing in the winter cold.

Videos of little brown children running around with no shoes on. Because you know that's exactly what the libs will do to manipulate the story. They won't show all the donations coming in, etc. It will be the cold heartless trumpsters causing us and doing this

Fortunately nobody gives a **** about legacy media. They're done and people are sick of their gaslighting.
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In reply to Prosperdick • 10:27p, 11/19/24
What an intentionally naive and shortsighted comment.

Most people still get their news via MSM Even if they're getting it online. Because it is the Reuters, AP, NBC, etc. News desks that generate the news that is aggregated and everyone read on their Twitter feeds.
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10:27p, 11/19/24
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Any federal funding to law enforcement should be withdrawn. It will difficult to revoke any other funding.
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In reply to kb2001 • 10:37p, 11/19/24
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kb2001 said:
Any federal funding to law enforcement should be withdrawn. It will difficult to revoke any other funding.
Strip all Medicaid and CHIP funding since its being used on illegal aliens.


California gets $162.9 billion in federal funds granted to it each year, almost 15% of its overall budget. Start taking it all away.

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10:53p, 11/19/24
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Strip all Medicaid and CHIP funding since its being used on illegal aliens.
I agree with this.

But, I say that we just denote that these sanctuary cities are the only cities that are immune from the mass deportation patrols. Tell illegal aliens that if they want to stay in the US, they need to move to either Chicago, San Francisco, Las Angeles, Portland, Seattle, Boston, or NYC.

If about 20 million illegal aliens flood those cities, they may not be sanctuary cities anymore.
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11:03p, 11/19/24
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Tell the illegals to avoid deportation by going to a sanctuary city.... strip ALL funding... gather illegals in all other parts of country while the locusts devour the sanctuary cities.... then go get them too. But don't restore over 25% of previous funding. Make them hurt.
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11:06p, 11/19/24
Dems sound like they gonna hide illegals under the floorboards of their house, but while they down there have 'em also re-insulate the crawl space.
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In reply to ktownag08 • 11:12p, 11/19/24
ktownag08 said:
1) formally request LA assistance to support removing illegals
2) LA formally refuses
3) send in national guard to remove illegals


I'm good with all that, but does any of that infringe on states rights? Or are states rights able to be bypassed when a state refuses to comply with the federal government?
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In reply to bg92 • 11:13p, 11/19/24
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bg92 said:
Or let all the illegals move to the sanctuary cities. They vote for this. Let them deal with the consequences. Focus on everywhere else first and then see how things stand after the cities are overrun.
this is the way

push them to the sanctuary cities

they will flock there -- just like the homeless move to the cities with the most free benefits
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11:30p, 11/19/24
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All illegals are criminals. They broke the law.
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11:47p, 11/19/24
Just start arresting local officials - including every employee "just taking orders" - for harboring illegals. You'll have to pardon the J6 folks to make room for them, but I think we also have some space at Gitmo. You'll get some hand wringing but they will start looking for ways to virtue signal while still cooperating with Feds.
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12:03a, 11/20/24
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But, I say that we just denote that these sanctuary cities are the only cities that are immune from the mass deportation patrols. Tell illegal aliens that if they want to stay in the US, they need to move to either Chicago, San Francisco, Las Angeles, Portland, Seattle, Boston, or NYC.

If about 20 million illegal aliens flood those cities, they may not be sanctuary cities anymore.
This is the way.

Herd the illegals to the sanctuary cities. Flood those cities with illiterate, non english speaking, unskilled and the lazy feeding off of the taxpayers. Bankrupt the sanctuary cities. Send their crime rates through the roof and generally make those cities unlivable for the people that voted for this stupidity.

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In reply to MemphisAg1 • 4:56a, 11/20/24
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1000 percent this. End all federal grants/support for law enforcement etc. to commie cities that refuse to assist.
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In reply to ktownag08 • 5:20a, 11/20/24
ktownag08 said:
1) formally request LA assistance to support removing illegals
2) LA formally refuses
3) send in national guard to remove illegals
This won't happen and it probably shouldn't. It's just not a good look. But then you have to start cutting the purse strings to LA. There has to be some pain if they're not going to cooperate.
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7:25a, 11/20/24
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50% of the ones caught get deported.

The other 50% get sent to sanctuary cities.

Also announce there will be no deportation action in any of those cities, that will get others to self-deport themselves to those places.

Cut fed funding by 100%.

Sit back and laugh.
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In reply to ktownag08 • 7:36a, 11/20/24
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ktownag08 said:
1) formally request LA assistance to support removing illegals
2) LA formally refuses
3) send in national guard to remove illegals


I can't imagine how the Nat Guard would be helpful in rounding up illegals in cities. I assume they will be used to guard the borders and round them up there. Zero chance this Admin wants the optics of uniformed troops kicking a door in looking for someone.
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In reply to C@LAg • 7:36a, 11/20/24
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C@LAg said:
What an intentionally naive and shortsighted comment.

Most people still get their news via MSM Even if they're getting it online. Because it is the Reuters, AP, NBC, etc. News desks that generate the news that is aggregated and everyone read on their Twitter feeds.
If most people still did Kamala would have won in a landslide.
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7:37a, 11/20/24
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Hopefully just the fear of Trump rounding them up convinces a couple million to leave before he takes office.
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In reply to bg92 • 7:40a, 11/20/24
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bg92 said:
Or let all the illegals move to the sanctuary cities. They vote for this. Let them deal with the consequences. Focus on everywhere else first and then see how things stand after the cities are overrun.


With no federal help or federal funds for that or other programs that could be used to divert funds to fund illegals
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In reply to Muy • 7:40a, 11/20/24
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Muy said:
Hopefully just the fear of Trump rounding them up convinces a couple million to leave before he takes office.


This and a few high profile cases of employers going to prison for hiring illegals discourages others from hiring them.
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In reply to Fightin_Aggie • 7:44a, 11/20/24
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bg92 said:
Or let all the illegals move to the sanctuary cities. They vote for this. Let them deal with the consequences. Focus on everywhere else first and then see how things stand after the cities are overrun.


With no federal help or federal funds for that or other programs that could be used to divert funds to fund illegals


Exactly; because then they will cry for "national emergency" financial support from the American taxpayers. The same people who want Texas to just keep them all here and keep our mouths shut.
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7:52a, 11/20/24
Funny how we went from "the border is secure" to "our immigration system is broken" to "we're not going to help you enforce the law." It's almost as if democrats have no intentions of fixing the problem, regardless of what our actual laws are.
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 7:53a, 11/20/24
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Ellis Wyatt said:
It's almost as if democrats have no intentions of fixing the problem, regardless of what our actual laws are.
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In reply to Pinochet • 8:53a, 11/20/24
Pinochet said:
Just start arresting local officials - including every employee "just taking orders" - for harboring illegals. You'll have to pardon the J6 folks to make room for them, but I think we also have some space at Gitmo. You'll get some hand wringing but they will start looking for ways to virtue signal while still cooperating with Feds.
I think this is the way.
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8:59a, 11/20/24
Bus, baby, bus... If you are a sanctuary city, then you must provide sanctuary, right?
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9:02a, 11/20/24
I do not agree with the national guard approach. Just let Trump refuse federal monies.

The optics of troops moving in to "regulate" plays into the enemy's narrative. We worked hard to earn voters and they came to us over the illegal immigration issue. They will not even notice dollars missing from the state but they will not like soldiers infiltrating their homes and neither would we.
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