Who is actually authorizing long range missiles?

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Yukon Cornelius
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5:53p, 11/17/24
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Biden didn't even know he dropped out of tbe presidential race.

No way he is doing this. So it begs the questions? Who is trying to provoke a war with Russia before Trump takes office?
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General Jack D. Ripper
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5:54p, 11/17/24
The same people that installed Biden and then put in Kamala. Deep state, defense contractors etc
Well…you sounded taller on radio.
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5:54p, 11/17/24
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Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.
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Yukon Cornelius
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5:56p, 11/17/24
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It seems clear to me they will try and escalate the war prior to Trump taking office.

Blinkers statement about spending every single dollar for Ukraine. And now this.
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6:04p, 11/17/24
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Deep State + MIC
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6:06p, 11/17/24
Do we know how this is any different than the ATACMS Biden already gave them?

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In reply to Yukon Cornelius • 6:09p, 11/17/24
Yukon Cornelius said:
Biden didn't even know he dropped out of tbe presidential race.

No way he is doing this. So it begs the questions? Who is trying to provoke a war with Russia before Trump takes office?
Right now Biden is lost in the rain forest, looking for a porta-potty.
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In reply to doubledog • 6:11p, 11/17/24
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doubledog said:
Yukon Cornelius said:
Biden didn't even know he dropped out of tbe presidential race.

No way he is doing this. So it begs the questions? Who is trying to provoke a war with Russia before Trump takes office?
Right now Biden is lost in the rain forest, looking for a porta-potty.
Do you really think Biden uses a porta-potty?


My answer: Depends
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6:13p, 11/17/24
Whoever it is, GOPe approves!
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In reply to BlueTaze • 6:13p, 11/17/24
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BlueTaze said:
Do we know how this is any different than the ATACMS Biden already gave them?



Same weapons, change of policy in regard to target limitations. Russia's recent attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure probably was the last straw.
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6:14p, 11/17/24
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Every day it becomes more apparent that Ukraine has been a money laundering operation for the kingmakers in the Democrat leadership since the Obama administration. It was a key financial piece of the fundamental transformation of America. This is why they freaked out when Trump won his first term and why they went after him so hard, up to and including impeachment. They had to undermine him and draw the attention away from Ukraine until they could get Biden in office. They picked him because he was neck deep in it as VP under Obama. He was complicit, so they knew would play along. When Biden's dementia caught up with them before the election, their only Hail Mary was Kamala, but it didn't work. Now their taking one last gulp of the goblet and leaving a mess for Trump to clean up.
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6:15p, 11/17/24
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What is the point of announcing that to the press?
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6:16p, 11/17/24
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Who gives a ****? Trump is going to end the war day one and save all the Ukrainians from themselves, right?
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6:16p, 11/17/24
Has Trump commented on this yet?
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6:17p, 11/17/24
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Trump needs to immediately issue an official statement that he doesn't approve this, and that Zelenskyy better think long and hard about taking orders from a lame duck president.
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In reply to FDT 1999 • 6:20p, 11/17/24
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Trump is not going to neuter one side in a deal he intends to make with both of them.
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In reply to pfo • 6:22p, 11/17/24
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pfo said:
Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.


Not sure I can get behind the military industrial complex conspiracy with how much US aid has been slow-rolled. 6D chess and all, though.
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In reply to FDT 1999 • 6:27p, 11/17/24
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Trump needs to immediately issue an official statement that he doesn't approve this, and that Zelenskyy better think long and hard about taking orders from a lame duck president.


They would charge him with violating the Logan Act.

I'm sure he has made his views on the matter made known to Zalensky in private.
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In reply to Logos Stick • 6:50p, 11/17/24
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Fine then. Do it privately and preferably from a phone that not being tapped by the FBI right now.
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In reply to Yukon Cornelius • 6:53p, 11/17/24
AG


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In reply to Teslag • 6:56p, 11/17/24
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Teslag said:
BlueTaze said:
Do we know how this is any different than the ATACMS Biden already gave them?



Same weapons, change of policy in regard to target limitations. Russia's recent attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure probably was the last straw.
Hilarious that you think anything in this dog and pony show at this point is a "last straw". This entire "conflict" is nothing in the world but a massive grift, and anyone who dies is just part of the cost of doing business. Wake the hell up. Good lord.
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7:02p, 11/17/24
What if this is Trump's plan to use for leverage? Maybe the point of the meeting with Biden at the Whitehouse?
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In reply to annie88 • 7:06p, 11/17/24
Putin has repeatedly threatened to nuke us if we did things he didn't like. F16s were a nukable offense. How'd that go? Putin isn't nuking anyone because if he does his country ceases to exist. And what's the point of this entire venture if he gets his ass vaporized? Russia makes threats and exploits weakness. He plays these games of chicken because he thinks he's the only one with the balls to test it (and you can't blame him given Biden, Obama's, and Europe's prior demonstrations of weakness).
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In reply to Rossticus • 7:10p, 11/17/24
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Exactly. This is like Nuclear Red Line number 30 for Russia now. Putin is worthless *****.
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In reply to pfo • 7:11p, 11/17/24
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pfo said:
Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.

I suspect that very few know who the true puppet masters are. We will probably never know who they are.
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In reply to Yukon Cornelius • 7:22p, 11/17/24
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Who is trying to provoke a war with Russia before Trump takes office?
The same people that released a bioweapon to coincide perfectly with the 2020 election.

The timing of the covid drop was impeccable.

So stands to reason that whatever happens with this attempted escalation of WW3 will also be timed impeccably.
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In reply to pfo • 7:23p, 11/17/24
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pfo said:
Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.
this....
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In reply to Bob Knights Paper Hands • 7:28p, 11/17/24
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Bob Knights Paper Hands said:
What if this is Trump's plan to use for leverage? Maybe the point of the meeting with Biden at the Whitehouse?
I have to admit this thought occurred to me. Biden announces this now as he has no political liability for announcing it. Trump then uses it as a negotiating tactic before it ever gets implemented.
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In reply to torrid • 7:37p, 11/17/24
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It's implemented now. The weapons are already in Ukraine and have been for a year.
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7:49p, 11/17/24
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It's a grift and there is no strategic value to launching them. Won't change anything over the next 2 months
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In reply to DannyDuberstein • 7:49p, 11/17/24
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Russia sure seems pissed about something that doesn't have any effect on them.
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In reply to Teslag • 7:50p, 11/17/24
Teslag said:
It's implemented now. The weapons are already in Ukraine and have been for a year.


We have a bunch of idiots running our foreign policy.
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In reply to Teslag • 7:52p, 11/17/24
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Teslag said:
Russia sure seems pissed about something that doesn't have any effect on them.


I'm sure they don't care for long range missiles dropping on them, but this will have no impact to getting them to back off. Useless strategic value. If anything, just more escalation and more dead Ukes and more $$$ to the MIC
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In reply to BillYeoman • 7:54p, 11/17/24
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We have a bunch of idiots running our foreign policy.


This GWOT veteran Rogan just had on rages harder than anybody I've ever seen. Worth a listen. Makes the point that there was no consequences for a 20-years war and $7T spent. Calls all of 'em out.
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In reply to BillYeoman • 7:57p, 11/17/24
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BillYeoman said:
Teslag said:
It's implemented now. The weapons are already in Ukraine and have been for a year.


We have a bunch of idiots running our foreign policy.


Our foreign policy for 60 years is a giant steaming pile of crap from tbe mind and efforts of Henry Kissinger.
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