There needs to be consequences, Russia hoax

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Ellis Wyatt
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GeorgiAg said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

GeorgiAg said:

Trump's former campaign finance manager Paul Manafort says hello.
About what?


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/muellers-case-against-paul-manafort-explained
Manafort was completely irrelevant to the dossier and the obstruction the democrats and FBI undertook. An excuse, at best.
backintexas2013
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You aren't very good at this internet thing.

From the article "All of the charges were unrelated to Manafort's work for the Trump campaign."

So once again tell us more about Trump Russia collusion.
Shooter McGavin
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GeorgiAg said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

GeorgiAg said:

Trump's former campaign finance manager Paul Manafort says hello.
About what?


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/muellers-case-against-paul-manafort-explained


Now do the Bidens
GeorgiAg
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backintexas2013 said:

You aren't very good at this internet thing.

From the article "All of the charges were unrelated to Manafort's work for the Trump campaign."

So once again tell us more about Trump Russia collusion.


https://www.npr.org/2019/02/13/694565971/manafort-intentionally-lied-to-special-counsel-judge-says

Last year the Justice Department laid out the falsehoods it said Manafort had told investigators since agreeing to cooperate including lies about payments and financial relationships to a law firm and about his dealings with his business associate Konstantin Kilimnik, who also was indicted last year and whom the FBI has linked to Russian intelligence services. Mueller's office also said Manafort has been untruthful about his continued contacts with people in the Trump administration and other topics.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/paul-manafort-defense-attorneys-gave-federal-prosecutors-complete/story?id=60212212

Ellis Wyatt
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GeorgiAg said:

backintexas2013 said:

You aren't very good at this internet thing.

From the article "All of the charges were unrelated to Manafort's work for the Trump campaign."

So once again tell us more about Trump Russia collusion.


https://www.npr.org/2019/02/13/694565971/manafort-intentionally-lied-to-special-counsel-judge-says

Last year the Justice Department laid out the falsehoods
The justice department also raided Donald Trump's house to intimidate him.
GeorgiAg
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Russia turned out to be a nothingburger but to suggest the government agents who looked into it need to be prosecuted for even looking into it is ridiculous.

Manafort worked as Trump's unpaid campaign chairman last year from March until August, a period that included the Republican National Convention that nominated Trump in July. Trump asked Manafort to resign after AP revealed that he had orchestrated a covert Washington lobbying operation until 2014 on behalf of Ukraine's ruling pro-Russian political party.

The newly obtained business records link Manafort more directly to Putin's interests in the region. According to those records and people with direct knowledge of Manafort's work for Deripaska, Manafort made plans to open an office in Moscow, and at least some of his work in Ukraine was directed by Deripaska, not local political interests there. The Moscow office never opened.

https://apnews.com/article/122ae0b5848345faa88108a03de40c5a
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The Dems break the law by weaponizing the DoJ, going after Trump - and the media ignores it.

Trump wants to hold them legally accountable and they say he's engaging in weaponization of the DoJ.

Up is down, down is up….
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The newly obtained business records link Manafort more directly to Putin's interests in the region. According to those records and people with direct knowledge of Manafort's work for Deripaska, Manafort made plans to open an office in Moscow, and at least some of his work in Ukraine was directed by Deripaska, not local political interests there. The Moscow office never opened.
The so-called "ledger"? The one that was never introduced at his trial because it was fabricated?
Ellis Wyatt
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GeorgiAg said:

Russia turned out to be a nothingburger but to suggest the government agents who looked into it need to be prosecuted for even looking into it is ridiculous.
They knew the allegations were false before they started on the investigation. They framed him.

They should not just be prosecuted, they should face the legal punishment for sedition and their families should be bankrupted.
jejdag
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"Last year the Justice Department laid out the falsehoods it said Manafort had told investigators since agreeing to cooperate including lies about payments and financial relationships to a law firm and about his dealings with his business associate Konstantin Kilimnik, who also was indicted last year and whom the FBI has linked to Russian intelligence services. Mueller's office also said Manafort has been untruthful about his continued contacts with people in the Trump administration and other topics."

What the fbi has linked and what Muellers office says is untruthful doesn't carry much weight now that we know it was all a crock, just as they themselves knew it from the start. They are not credible.
Ellis Wyatt
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jejdag said:

"Last year the Justice Department laid out the falsehoods it said Manafort had told investigators since agreeing to cooperate including lies about payments and financial relationships to a law firm and about his dealings with his business associate Konstantin Kilimnik, who also was indicted last year and whom the FBI has linked to Russian intelligence services. Mueller's office also said Manafort has been untruthful about his continued contacts with people in the Trump administration and other topics."

What the fbi has linked and what Muellers office says is untruthful doesn't carry much weight now that we know it was all a crock
And we knew it all more than 4 years ago.
jejdag
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Yes and the liberal media smoothed it over and called us conspiracy theorists, etc. Don't know how it would be done, but the media should be held to account, too.
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GeorgiAg said:

Russia turned out to be a nothingburger but to suggest the government agents who looked into it need to be prosecuted for even looking into it is ridiculous.

Manafort worked as Trump's unpaid campaign chairman last year from March until August, a period that included the Republican National Convention that nominated Trump in July. Trump asked Manafort to resign after AP revealed that he had orchestrated a covert Washington lobbying operation until 2014 on behalf of Ukraine's ruling pro-Russian political party.

The newly obtained business records link Manafort more directly to Putin's interests in the region. According to those records and people with direct knowledge of Manafort's work for Deripaska, Manafort made plans to open an office in Moscow, and at least some of his work in Ukraine was directed by Deripaska, not local political interests there. The Moscow office never opened.

https://apnews.com/article/122ae0b5848345faa88108a03de40c5a


None of the alleged actions constirute a crime. Russia collision wasn't a nothing burger, it was an attempted coup from the very beginning and the FBI agents who investigated it knew that.

Manafort's crimes were FARA violations for which the Podesta brothers were also guilty at the same time for other Ukrainian actors but they were notified and allowed to retroactively file FARA documentswhile Manafort was prosecuted in a totally unpredented way. Neither the resources applied to the investigationnor the sentence had ever been done before for FARA violations. This was all in the 2014 and prior "pre-escalator" time frame.



The Mueller gang accusations that Manafort continued to have contact with the Trump campaign after he resigned as chairman and that he was close to people in Putins orbit are allegations of a non-crime. If everything they insinuate was true, nothing is criminal except that Manafort walked into a perjury trap, the same technique that they used on Mike Flynn.

So yeah, they need to spend a few decades in Supermax and get to know Terry Nichols, Zacarias Moussaoui, Eric Rudolph, Richard Reid, and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev on a personal level becausethey are the same level of scum. They are the closest thing to Gestapo that has ever operated in the United States since the Revolution.


GeorgiAg
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Shooter McGavin said:

GeorgiAg said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

GeorgiAg said:

Trump's former campaign finance manager Paul Manafort says hello.
About what?


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/muellers-case-against-paul-manafort-explained


Now do the Bidens
I ain't defending Hunter. Or Joe. No thank you.
GeorgiAg
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Also, to Trump's credit, he distanced himself from Manafort quick.
Ellis Wyatt
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Now do the Bidens
I ain't defending Hunter. Or Joe. No thank you.
Trump didn't collude with Russia, which is what we're talking about. People need to be held to account for dragging the American people through that and hamstringing the Trump presidency.
BlueTaze
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GeorgiAg said:

Russia turned out to be a nothingburger but to suggest the government agents who looked into it need to be prosecuted for even looking into it is ridiculous.



The Feds leaked known BS to media, in order to use those press stories as a predicate to initiate an investigation. They mislead judges in order to spy on a sitting POTUS. They lied under oath. Those at FBI in charge of the investigation expressed their intent to execute an "insurance policy" to "stop" the POTUS.

They didn't just "look into it". They wasted tens of millions and spent 6 years undermining and impeding a sitting POTUS...when they knew full well it was BS.

You are clueless. "Looking into it" lol
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