Could DOGE mean the end of Cloward-Piven?

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10:37a, 11/13/24

Tell me I'm dreaming. Or better yet, tell me I'm not.

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10:38a, 11/13/24

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No.

I think all of us are about to find out just how entrenched and unfireable the bureaucracy is.

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In reply to 1st Generation Ag • 10:40a, 11/13/24

1st Generation Ag said:
Tell me I'm dreaming. Or better yet, tell me I'm not.

Those who push Cloward-Piven are firmly entrenched in our government. It will take multiple republican presidents to significantly thin their ranks. We need to make it more sacrificial to work in the public sector like it once was.

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In reply to CDUB98 • 10:40a, 11/13/24

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CDUB98 said:
No.

I think all of us are about to find out just how entrenched and unfireable the bureaucracy is.

This is what I think as well.

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In reply to CDUB98 • 10:41a, 11/13/24

CDUB98 said:
No.

I think all of us are about to find out just how entrenched and unfireable the bureaucracy is.

There are rumors that the Trump admin may move bureaucrats' offices across the country to induce retirements. That would be fun to watch.

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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 10:41a, 11/13/24

Ellis Wyatt said:
1st Generation Ag said:
Tell me I'm dreaming. Or better yet, tell me I'm not.
Those who push Cloward-Piven are firmly entrenched in our government. It will take multiple republican presidents to significantly thin their ranks. We need to make it more sacrificial to work in the public sector like it once was.

47 says "Watch me"

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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 10:42a, 11/13/24

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Ellis Wyatt said:
1st Generation Ag said:
Tell me I'm dreaming. Or better yet, tell me I'm not.
Those who push Cloward-Piven are firmly entrenched in our government. It will take multiple republican presidents to significantly thin their ranks. We need to make it more sacrificial to work in the public sector like it once was.

It needs to happen as quickly as possible. If it takes multiple presidents to accomplish, it won't happen.

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10:59a, 11/13/24

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In reply to TheEternalOptimist • 11:16a, 11/13/24

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TheEternalOptimist said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
1st Generation Ag said:
Tell me I'm dreaming. Or better yet, tell me I'm not.
Those who push Cloward-Piven are firmly entrenched in our government. It will take multiple republican presidents to significantly thin their ranks. We need to make it more sacrificial to work in the public sector like it once was.
47 says "Watch me"

This is why the Dems were calling Trump fascist and Hitler.

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11:17a, 11/13/24

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2016-2024 - Trump fought the Deep State and the Deep State won.

2025-2028 - ????

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In reply to 93MarineHorn • 11:26a, 11/13/24

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93MarineHorn said:
CDUB98 said:
No.

I think all of us are about to find out just how entrenched and unfireable the bureaucracy is.
There are rumors that the Trump admin may move bureaucrats' offices across the country to induce retirements. That would be fun to watch.

This could help decrease the amount of Democrats living and voting in northern Virginia, which would help increase Republican influence for statewide Virginia political races.

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In reply to JamesE4 • 11:27a, 11/13/24

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JamesE4 said:
2016-2024 - Trump fought the Deep State and the Deep State won.

2025-2028 - ????

1776-2015 No one fought the deep state at all much less win.

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11:47a, 11/13/24

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It would be a mistake to underestimate Trump, Elon and Vivick! These are the 3 smartest, most committed and hardest workers our government has ever had.

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In reply to Bryanisbest • 11:48a, 11/13/24

Bryanisbest said:
JamesE4 said:
2016-2024 - Trump fought the Deep State and the Deep State won.

2025-2028 - ????

1776-2015 No one fought the deep state at all much less win.

Not true. James Madison and the war hawks fought the deepstate and won thanks to general Andrew Jackson

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12:11p, 11/13/24

How about a generational setback? I'd settle for a generational setback.

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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 12:18p, 11/13/24

Ellis Wyatt said:
1st Generation Ag said:
Tell me I'm dreaming. Or better yet, tell me I'm not.
Those who push Cloward-Piven are firmly entrenched in our government. It will take multiple republican presidents to significantly thin their ranks. We need to make it more sacrificial to work in the public sector like it once was.

I mean, if Bill Clinton can fire every single US Attorney in one swell foop . . .

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In reply to texagbeliever • 12:06p, 11/14/24

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texagbeliever said:
Bryanisbest said:
JamesE4 said:
2016-2024 - Trump fought the Deep State and the Deep State won.

2025-2028 - ????

1776-2015 No one fought the deep state at all much less win.

Not true. James Madison and the war hawks fought the deepstate and won thanks to general Andrew Jackson

Thanks for that . I did not remember that