Bunk Moreland said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Trump literally made Wisconsin too big to rig. Look at this chart: pic.twitter.com/S0QIvXW2PA

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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It's wild to me that so many people still don't understand how/when mail in votes are counted.

There's nothing weird about that graph.

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There is nothing weird? Do you think mail in voting was 95% democrat?

Wow. Just wow.

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That's not what he said.

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Actually it was.

texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Trump literally made Wisconsin too big to rig. Look at this chart: pic.twitter.com/S0QIvXW2PA

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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It's wild to me that so many people still don't understand how/when mail in votes are counted.

There's nothing weird about that graph.

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There is nothing weird? Do you think mail in voting was 95% democrat?

Wow. Just wow.

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It's not 95%, you'll notice an uptick in republican votes at the same time.

But in many places it is well over 80%, yes. Mail in voting overwhelmingly self selects for democrats, it's just the nature of the beast. Combine that with how Wisconsin dumps their results from larger counties and that graph looks like every Wisconsin vote graph since 1996.

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Oh well if Wisconsin has been doing this since 1996 then it must be super duper safe.

It is splitting hairs as to if it is 85%-95%. That process is shady as hell. Oh we will wait till all counting is done and THEN we will start counting all the ballots that don't require an id or person to physically show up somewhere.

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It's how many states do it, including many red states, it's just that Wisconsin is a purple state with a disproportionate number of mail in votes compared to other states. Combine that with their policy on how they release vote tallies in their larger counties and there's a reason conspiracy theorists always use their state as the example, because they know the graph will almost definitionally look like that. It's a grift.

As to the perception it creates, I won't argue that but that's also not a good reason to just be intentionally obtuse and ignorant. It takes two minutes to figure out why the graph looks the way it does.

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Are there any instances where the GOP ever has a sharp dump of votes like that?

Doesn't pass the smell test and I'm just trying to have a smidgeon of open mindedness. It's just so counterintuitive and outright in your face if it only happens to one party.

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The dead tend to bloc vote like that. Don't know that I have ever seen them swing to the GOP.

Infection_Ag11 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Trump literally made Wisconsin too big to rig. Look at this chart: pic.twitter.com/S0QIvXW2PA

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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It's wild to me that so many people still don't understand how/when mail in votes are counted.

There's nothing weird about that graph.

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There is nothing weird? Do you think mail in voting was 95% democrat?

Wow. Just wow.

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It's not 95%, you'll notice an uptick in republican votes at the same time.

But in many places it is well over 80%, yes. Mail in voting overwhelmingly self selects for democrats, it's just the nature of the beast. Combine that with how Wisconsin dumps their results from larger counties and that graph looks like every Wisconsin vote graph since 1996.

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Oh well if Wisconsin has been doing this since 1996 then it must be super duper safe.

It is splitting hairs as to if it is 85%-95%. That process is shady as hell. Oh we will wait till all counting is done and THEN we will start counting all the ballots that don't require an id or person to physically show up somewhere.

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It's how many states do it, including many red states, it's just that Wisconsin is a purple state with a disproportionate number of mail in votes compared to other states. Combine that with their policy on how they release vote tallies in their larger counties and there's a reason conspiracy theorists always use their state as the example, because they know the graph will almost definitionally look like that. It's a grift.

As to the perception it creates, I won't argue that but that's also not a good reason to just be intentionally obtuse and ignorant. It takes two minutes to figure out why the graph looks the way it does.

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1. I don't care if red states use the same process. That is shady and those states shouldn't do it that way.
2. With technology the ability to know who did vote in person and then just fill out their vote for them if they didn't is the obvious loophole problem with counting mail in votes 2nd.
3. The other clear problem is lack of verification of Id. So democrats could be harvesting votes from nursing homes or paying people in shelters to fill out the vote. That would be a way to have a huge support for democrats.

Also isn't it crazy how even with major swings in the vote received, the mail in voting saw no change in voter split in states like Wisconsin. Other states saw massive gains by Republicans like PA and Florida. States that actually track returns by party and also sent out by party.

[Do not derail the thread. -Staff]

texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Trump literally made Wisconsin too big to rig. Look at this chart: pic.twitter.com/S0QIvXW2PA

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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It's wild to me that so many people still don't understand how/when mail in votes are counted.

There's nothing weird about that graph.

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There is nothing weird? Do you think mail in voting was 95% democrat?

Wow. Just wow.

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It's not 95%, you'll notice an uptick in republican votes at the same time.

But in many places it is well over 80%, yes. Mail in voting overwhelmingly self selects for democrats, it's just the nature of the beast. Combine that with how Wisconsin dumps their results from larger counties and that graph looks like every Wisconsin vote graph since 1996.

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Oh well if Wisconsin has been doing this since 1996 then it must be super duper safe.

It is splitting hairs as to if it is 85%-95%. That process is shady as hell. Oh we will wait till all counting is done and THEN we will start counting all the ballots that don't require an id or person to physically show up somewhere.

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It's how many states do it, including many red states, it's just that Wisconsin is a purple state with a disproportionate number of mail in votes compared to other states. Combine that with their policy on how they release vote tallies in their larger counties and there's a reason conspiracy theorists always use their state as the example, because they know the graph will almost definitionally look like that. It's a grift.

As to the perception it creates, I won't argue that but that's also not a good reason to just be intentionally obtuse and ignorant. It takes two minutes to figure out why the graph looks the way it does.

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1. I don't care if red states use the same process. That is shady and those states shouldn't do it that way.
2. With technology the ability to know who did vote in person and then just fill out their vote for them if they didn't is the obvious loophole problem with counting mail in votes 2nd.
3. The other clear problem is lack of verification of Id. So democrats could be harvesting votes from nursing homes or paying people in shelters to fill out the vote. That would be a way to have a huge support for democrats.

Also isn't it crazy how even with major swings in the vote received, the mail in voting saw no change in voter split in states like Wisconsin. Other states saw massive gains by Republicans like PA and Florida. States that actually track returns by party and also sent out by party.

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Again, I'm not even arguing with you about any of this. It also has nothing to do with the reality of the matter.

The process can be less than ideal and by nature ripe for suspicion, and also have a completely rational and non-fraudulent explanation. Going out to my car in the driveway to look for something at 2 AM certainly looks suspicious and I probably should have done it earlier but that doesn't meet I'm committing a crime just because someone walks by and notices.

deleting because of derail. Agreed with FireAg though

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Yes but everyone knew they were going to cheat so what is the big deal?!

Infection_Ag11 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Trump literally made Wisconsin too big to rig. Look at this chart: pic.twitter.com/S0QIvXW2PA

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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It's wild to me that so many people still don't understand how/when mail in votes are counted.

There's nothing weird about that graph.

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There is nothing weird? Do you think mail in voting was 95% democrat?

Wow. Just wow.

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It's not 95%, you'll notice an uptick in republican votes at the same time.

But in many places it is well over 80%, yes. Mail in voting overwhelmingly self selects for democrats, it's just the nature of the beast. Combine that with how Wisconsin dumps their results from larger counties and that graph looks like every Wisconsin vote graph since 1996.

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And coincidentally MIB generated 10M extra votes in 2020. But hey, just nature of th beast right? It's also amazing how each state that gets lax on ID and heavy MIB goes blue. Sureeeee

Give democrats an opportunity to cheat without consequence and I guarantee they will do it. Mass mail in ballots and drop off ballots have to stop. Ballot harvesting has to stop. Voter ID must be required. I don't know how to force the blue states to do it, but it needs to be done.

dreyOO said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Trump literally made Wisconsin too big to rig. Look at this chart: pic.twitter.com/S0QIvXW2PA

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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It's wild to me that so many people still don't understand how/when mail in votes are counted.

There's nothing weird about that graph.

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There is nothing weird? Do you think mail in voting was 95% democrat?

Wow. Just wow.

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It's not 95%, you'll notice an uptick in republican votes at the same time.

But in many places it is well over 80%, yes. Mail in voting overwhelmingly self selects for democrats, it's just the nature of the beast. Combine that with how Wisconsin dumps their results from larger counties and that graph looks like every Wisconsin vote graph since 1996.

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And coincidentally MIB generated 10M extra votes in 2020. But hey, just nature of th beast right? It's also amazing how each state that gets lax on ID and heavy MIB goes blue. Sureeeee

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Or blue states are the just ones implementing lax ID laws.

Wisconsin requires voter ID, BTW

To register to vote, should you have to provide proof of where you live, that you're citizen, that you're over 18, that you're not a violent felon? People who intend on being able to cheat (democrats) would say, "no, that's racist".

To vote, should you have to provide proof (an ID), that you are registered to vote? People who intend on being able to cheat (democrats) would say, "no, that's racist".

Should anyone who feels like it, not just those stationed overseas or elderly/disabled, be able to request a ballot mailed to them, and be able to mail it back or drop it off in any number of boxes around town? People who intend on being able to cheat (democrats) would say, "yes of course; anything else would be racist".

when huge late night tally "drops" in the middle of a 50-50 election are all 85-95% for one party, should it be quickly explained away as normal with an approved narrative talking point that mailed in ballots favor that party without any professional skepticism, doubt, or questions asked? People who are cheating (democrats) would say, "yep - makes sense. most secure election ever. move along now. nothing to see here."

texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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dreyOO said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Trump literally made Wisconsin too big to rig. Look at this chart: pic.twitter.com/S0QIvXW2PA

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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It's wild to me that so many people still don't understand how/when mail in votes are counted.

There's nothing weird about that graph.

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There is nothing weird? Do you think mail in voting was 95% democrat?

Wow. Just wow.

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It's not 95%, you'll notice an uptick in republican votes at the same time.

But in many places it is well over 80%, yes. Mail in voting overwhelmingly self selects for democrats, it's just the nature of the beast. Combine that with how Wisconsin dumps their results from larger counties and that graph looks like every Wisconsin vote graph since 1996.

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And coincidentally MIB generated 10M extra votes in 2020. But hey, just nature of th beast right? It's also amazing how each state that gets lax on ID and heavy MIB goes blue. Sureeeee

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Or blue states are the just ones implementing lax ID laws.

Wisconsin requires voter ID, BTW

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So how does someone check that the person who filled out the ballot matches the ID photo?

You don't have voter ID if you have mail in ballots. It really is that simple.

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In Wisconsin you have to provide either a state issued ID number, or a photocopy of a valid form of ID, along with your signature on the ballot itself. This can then be cross checked after the fact if need be.

Infection_Ag11 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Trump literally made Wisconsin too big to rig. Look at this chart: pic.twitter.com/S0QIvXW2PA

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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It's wild to me that so many people still don't understand how/when mail in votes are counted.

There's nothing weird about that graph.

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There is nothing weird? Do you think mail in voting was 95% democrat?

Wow. Just wow.

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It's not 95%, you'll notice an uptick in republican votes at the same time.

But in many places it is well over 80%, yes. Mail in voting overwhelmingly self selects for democrats, it's just the nature of the beast. Combine that with how Wisconsin dumps their results from larger counties and that graph looks like every Wisconsin vote graph since 1996.

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So, what you're saying is they've been cheating like this for nearly 30 years.

MostlyHarmless said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Trump literally made Wisconsin too big to rig. Look at this chart: pic.twitter.com/S0QIvXW2PA

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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It's wild to me that so many people still don't understand how/when mail in votes are counted.

There's nothing weird about that graph.

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There is nothing weird? Do you think mail in voting was 95% democrat?

Wow. Just wow.

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It's not 95%, you'll notice an uptick in republican votes at the same time.

But in many places it is well over 80%, yes. Mail in voting overwhelmingly self selects for democrats, it's just the nature of the beast. Combine that with how Wisconsin dumps their results from larger counties and that graph looks like every Wisconsin vote graph since 1996.

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So, what you're saying is they've been cheating like this for nearly 30 years.

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They are probably legitimate ballots, but the Dem machine has always been good at harvesting them. That is the shady part to me, no one should be helping these people fill out and submit their ballots. Have a great aunt up there who has dementia in a care facility. Her sister just happened to be there when the democratic volunteers were making the rounds "helping" them do their mail in ballots. They are guiding old people through the ballot and many of these people have no idea what they are doing and are being heavily influenced on who to pick. I'm sure they are even being completed for the "voter".

harge57 said:

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MostlyHarmless said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Trump literally made Wisconsin too big to rig. Look at this chart: pic.twitter.com/S0QIvXW2PA

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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It's wild to me that so many people still don't understand how/when mail in votes are counted.

There's nothing weird about that graph.

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There is nothing weird? Do you think mail in voting was 95% democrat?

Wow. Just wow.

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It's not 95%, you'll notice an uptick in republican votes at the same time.

But in many places it is well over 80%, yes. Mail in voting overwhelmingly self selects for democrats, it's just the nature of the beast. Combine that with how Wisconsin dumps their results from larger counties and that graph looks like every Wisconsin vote graph since 1996.

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So, what you're saying is they've been cheating like this for nearly 30 years.

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They are probably legitimate ballots, but the Dem machine has always been good at harvesting them. That is the shady part to me, no one should be helping these people fill out and submit their ballots. Have a great aunt up there who has dementia in a care facility. Her sister just happened to be there when the democratic volunteers were making the rounds "helping" them do their mail in ballots. They are guiding old people through the ballot and many of these people have no idea what they are doing and are being heavily influenced on who to pick. I'm sure they are even being completed for the "voter".

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I was saying it somewhat tongue in cheek but what you just described I would call cheating.

Infection_Ag11 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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dreyOO said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Trump literally made Wisconsin too big to rig. Look at this chart: pic.twitter.com/S0QIvXW2PA

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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It's wild to me that so many people still don't understand how/when mail in votes are counted.

There's nothing weird about that graph.

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There is nothing weird? Do you think mail in voting was 95% democrat?

Wow. Just wow.

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It's not 95%, you'll notice an uptick in republican votes at the same time.

But in many places it is well over 80%, yes. Mail in voting overwhelmingly self selects for democrats, it's just the nature of the beast. Combine that with how Wisconsin dumps their results from larger counties and that graph looks like every Wisconsin vote graph since 1996.

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And coincidentally MIB generated 10M extra votes in 2020. But hey, just nature of th beast right? It's also amazing how each state that gets lax on ID and heavy MIB goes blue. Sureeeee

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Or blue states are the just ones implementing lax ID laws.

Wisconsin requires voter ID, BTW

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So how does someone check that the person who filled out the ballot matches the ID photo?

You don't have voter ID if you have mail in ballots. It really is that simple.

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In Wisconsin you have to provide either a state issued ID number, or a photocopy of a valid form of ID, along with your signature on the ballot itself. This can then be cross checked after the fact if need be.

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Well gee if only it were possible to print out copies of people's state ID that they likely had to put on their registration file.

Let's see link database of state IDs to people who are registered but haven't voted yet. That would be really easy to do. That assumes the photocopies are kept and not discarded and thus no audit is possible.

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They are probably legitimate ballots, but the Dem machine has always been good at harvesting them. That is the shady part to me, no one should be helping these people fill out and submit their ballots. Have a great aunt up there who has dementia in a care facility. Her sister just happened to be there when the democratic volunteers were making the rounds "helping" them do their mail in ballots. They are guiding old people through the ballot and many of these people have no idea what they are doing and are being heavily influenced on who to pick. I'm sure they are even being completed for the "voter".

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This is happening everywhere in every care center that takes CMMS (Medicare) funding. They made it a mandate that every resident will cast a vote and if the care facility doesn't ensure this vote then they can lose their funding + fines. The care facility administrators are HIGHLY motivated to see their votes cast and their employees are mostly poorly paid minorities so guess which way they "help" the residents vote?

CNN just called House for GOP

NBC also calling for GOP

NYT holding out at 217....lol

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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NYT holding out at 217....lol

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So is the Fox News website.

MostlyHarmless said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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NYT holding out at 217....lol

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So is the Fox News website.

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That is with Alaska 1 at 94% counted a 9K lead and only 18K votes to count.