Buck Turgidson said:

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Short answer to the OP is no. Lots of fake "Christians" out there these days, however. From Pope Marx to sellouts in every denomination, they're all around. Just look for the repurposed rainbow flags.

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By definition a "Christian" is an individual who believes and follows the Nicene Creed (325). The Creed is the statement of faith for Christians

Tim The Toolman said:

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Can you be Christian and vote grabbing women by the *****?

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Who did that? Bless your heart, I'll bet you think Trump said to inject yourself with bleach.

I was hoping this thread would be nuked by now.

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TxAgPreacher said:

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No you cannot follow Christ teachings and vote for the evil democratic playform.

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But you voted for Trump???

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What does he push that is evil? Look at the list in my 1st paragraph at top of page...now tell me what Trump or republicans support that is evil or unChristian.

Yeah he's "kind of" pro choice to a further extent than I would like...but it pales in comparison to the left and he is certainly without a doubt the lesser of two evils.

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And there it is....the lesser of two evils. And in some peoples opinion, they are both evil and may see some R policies as evil and/or un Christ like. I think R policies are the lesser, but I'm just saying that all of theses discussions that are basically saying "if you vote democrat, you cannot be Christian", is dangerous. By that logic, anyone who sins periodically or makes a wrong choice isn't a Christian.

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Sinning periodically is something even the apostles did. We all do.

Actively supporting books like "Gender Queer" in grade schools (I don't know of a single lib who is against this...they wept and gnashed teeth when Desantis had it removed and compared him to Hitler) which shows graphic images of boys going down on each other and sodomizing each other (can't post the images here) is a whole new level of sin/evil thoughg.

It's like saying, "hey that guy who exposes himself to children ain't that bad...we all sin!". It's nonsensical.

I gave you a list of evil things the average everyday democrats support and encourage. Show me some comparable stuff the average republican supports. Good luck.

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My point was that its possible for people to view those things republicans advocate for as going against Christian teachings. I'm not saying its accurate in my mind, but for instance, the treatment of immigrants, the poor in our country or even the taxation of the middle and lower class compared to the wealthy... they may view that as going against Christ's teachings. And if abortion is now illegal in their own state, then they may perceive more of a balance between the evils of both sides.
I'm just saying it is not as simple as saying that if you vote democrat you can't be a Christian. Jesus saves, not political parties. When we start equating being a Christian with being a Republican, that is dangerous. Politics for some begins to become an idol for some if they think that merely being repubican makes them a faithful Christian

Logos Stick said:

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William Foster said:

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...knowing that they actively support abortion (to an alarming degree), gay cartoon p0rn books in grade schools, hedonism and debauchery, sex changes and irreversible hormone therapy for minors, assault on the nuclear family, men crushing women in sports, men changing and showering with women in the locker room, and violence and destruction in the streets when it serves a political purpose.

I have been alarmed by the number of people in my IG feed, who were always strong Christians that I looked up to...and went to Christian colleges...basically be so brainwashed as to argue that one cannot possibly be Christian and support Donald Trump. I just think it is flat out INSANE to make that argument, especially considering the vile and evil filth the democrat party actively endorses and advocates for.

But serious question, unless you are just completely naive and have been living under a rock for half a century, how can anyone call themselves a Christian and actively support and encourage the filth I laid out in paragraph 1?

I will leave you with this...

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To oversimplify this question is dangerous. Politics absolutely do not dictate a persons faith or 'Christianity'. A Christian's faith should dictate how they vote....when they vote. So while I agree that abortion is against our faith....Republican representatives have already walked back from a national ban and don't seem interested in . using it as part of their platform.

Christians are also supposed to support policies that represent the teachings of Christ (including love/charity) To say one party absolutely does and the other absolutely doesn't is absurd. So it boils down to the lesser of two evils, good and evil or the better of two goods.

Anyone using politics as a benchmark for their faith needs to reassess some things. The other thing to consider is that nowhere in scripture are we required to vote for who we deem to be harmful nominees if we, in good conscience, believe that is the best action.

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Me voting for the government to take your money and give it to someone else - or vice versa - is not me being loving or charitable. I always laugh when I read that kind of pap.

Jesus: "how much money did you personally give to the poor"

Democrat: "none, but I voted to take money from some rich guy and give it to them"


LOLOLOLOL

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You obviously don't understand the broad meaning of charity. But that's okay. Everyone rationalizes things so feel better about their actions. Interesting that you are speaking for Jesus though.

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Science Denier said:

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2040huck said:

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Anybody who supports Trump and his lifestyle cannot be a christian. You dont cheat on every wife you have ever had, Pay off pron stars, assault women, fail to pay legal debts through bankruptcy(even though you are supposedly a billionaire) and then go on a cursing rant at a meeting with Catholics.

Anybody who falls for this can no longer consider themselves a christian

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Everyone is a sinner. He has repented for all those sins.

Heels up kicks out folks that think "Jesus is Lord".

GO TRUMP!!!

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When did he repent? Tell us please. Did he apologize to his prior wives? Did he apologize to Melania? If so, I never saw it.

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Actually, he said on camera that he doesn't need to be forgiven....and then couldn't come up with a single bible verse that he liked.

Voting for what we hope are the policies Trump will enact are one thing....feeling compelled to make him into some sort of prophet or even being able to demonstrate every once in a while his Christian faith is a bit much. Idolatry is reaching a new level

BluHorseShu said:

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2040huck said:

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Anybody who supports Trump and his lifestyle cannot be a christian. You dont cheat on every wife you have ever had, Pay off pron stars, assault women, fail to pay legal debts through bankruptcy(even though you are supposedly a billionaire) and then go on a cursing rant at a meeting with Catholics.

Anybody who falls for this can no longer consider themselves a christian

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Everyone is a sinner. He has repented for all those sins.

Heels up kicks out folks that think "Jesus is Lord".

GO TRUMP!!!

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When did he repent? Tell us please. Did he apologize to his prior wives? Did he apologize to Melania? If so, I never saw it.

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Actually, he said on camera that he doesn't need to be forgiven....and then couldn't come up with a single bible verse that he liked.

Voting for what we hope are the policies Trump will enact are one thing....feeling compelled to make him into some sort of prophet or even being able to demonstrate every once in a while his Christian faith is a bit much. Idolatry is reaching a new level

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Idolatry like the left? Nobody anoints politicians like the idiots on the left.

2 Timothy 3:1-7 NIV:

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3 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth.

That describes one of our political parties perfectly. Like as if Paul was reporting directly from their convention floor.


And for those of you whose only rebuttal is character assassinations of Trump, King David impregnated a married woman and then murdered her husband to cover his crimes.

Your Bible isn't just a prop for Sunday's. Try actually reading it someday.

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My brother is an ordained Baptist minister and has always voted D

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And he may, in good conscience believe he is making the best choice for his fellow man. We'd disagree but it doesn't change his faith. For most people, the abortion issue is defining for Christians...except that before the overturn of R v W, the R party never moved the needle on getting rid of it. And now that its back in the states hands, some people may think that because its illegal in their state and others that its not as much of a concern like it once was.
Historically black Christians had voted predominately for Dems. I don't believe they're not Christians because of their votes though because their perception was that the Dem policies were for the greater good.

IOW, I don't agree but I understand.

BluHorseShu said:

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William Foster said:

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No you cannot follow Christ teachings and vote for the evil democratic playform.

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But you voted for Trump???

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What does he push that is evil? Look at the list in my 1st paragraph at top of page...now tell me what Trump or republicans support that is evil or unChristian.

Yeah he's "kind of" pro choice to a further extent than I would like...but it pales in comparison to the left and he is certainly without a doubt the lesser of two evils.

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And there it is....the lesser of two evils. And in some peoples opinion, they are both evil and may see some R policies as evil and/or un Christ like. I think R policies are the lesser, but I'm just saying that all of theses discussions that are basically saying "if you vote democrat, you cannot be Christian", is dangerous. By that logic, anyone who sins periodically or makes a wrong choice isn't a Christian.

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Sinning periodically is something even the apostles did. We all do.

Actively supporting books like "Gender Queer" in grade schools (I don't know of a single lib who is against this...they wept and gnashed teeth when Desantis had it removed and compared him to Hitler) which shows graphic images of boys going down on each other and sodomizing each other (can't post the images here) is a whole new level of sin/evil thoughg.

It's like saying, "hey that guy who exposes himself to children ain't that bad...we all sin!". It's nonsensical.

I gave you a list of evil things the average everyday democrats support and encourage. Show me some comparable stuff the average republican supports. Good luck.

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My point was that its possible for people to view those things republicans advocate for as going against Christian teachings. I'm not saying its accurate in my mind, but for instance, the treatment of immigrants, the poor in our country or even the taxation of the middle and lower class compared to the wealthy... they may view that as going against Christ's teachings. And if abortion is now illegal in their own state, then they may perceive more of a balance between the evils of both sides.
I'm just saying it is not as simple as saying that if you vote democrat you can't be a Christian. Jesus saves, not political parties. When we start equating being a Christian with being a Republican, that is dangerous. Politics for some begins to become an idol for some if they think that merely being repubican makes them a faithful Christian

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If you support genital mutliation for minors and gay p0rn books in school libraries and drag queen story hour and abortion...jesus can save you...but that requires you to stop advocating for such things and instead advocate for him, at least in your personal life.

Just give it up. The modern dem party is corrupted and perverted on a disturbing level. There is no downplaying it.

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Dems and the govt they want are the anti Christ. Trump may or may not be a Christian but he is not the anti Christ.

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It seems like they should be one spot under the Anti Christ, but whatever works for the religion I guess.

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Colin Allred told me he was a Christian 4 times in ads on Pluto streaming.
Yall reckon I ought to believe him? He went to Baylor too! .

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he's one of those Southern Baptist baby murderers then.

mallen said:

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It's interesting how people reduce God to a binary choice between two flawed political ideologies. Essentially, we've reduced the person of God to a man-made political god. Jesus lived in a time of intense political divisiveness and his closest followers belonged to vastly different political ideologies. The religious hypocrites of the day tried to bait him into supporting one side or the other but he didn't bite and instead talked about loving your enemies.

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if we just consider baby murdering nothing more than a differing political ideology, then we can keep baiting people into doing it more and more. yeah!

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It's interesting how people reduce God to a binary choice between two flawed political ideologies. Essentially, we've reduced the person of God to a man-made political god. Jesus lived in a time of intense political divisiveness and his closest followers belonged to vastly different political ideologies. The religious hypocrites of the day tried to bait him into supporting one side or the other but he didn't bite and instead talked about loving your enemies.

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William Foster said:

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William Foster said:

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BluHorseShu said:

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William Foster said:

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BigFred said:

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No you cannot follow Christ teachings and vote for the evil democratic playform.

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But you voted for Trump???

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What does he push that is evil? Look at the list in my 1st paragraph at top of page...now tell me what Trump or republicans support that is evil or unChristian.

Yeah he's "kind of" pro choice to a further extent than I would like...but it pales in comparison to the left and he is certainly without a doubt the lesser of two evils.

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And there it is....the lesser of two evils. And in some peoples opinion, they are both evil and may see some R policies as evil and/or un Christ like. I think R policies are the lesser, but I'm just saying that all of theses discussions that are basically saying "if you vote democrat, you cannot be Christian", is dangerous. By that logic, anyone who sins periodically or makes a wrong choice isn't a Christian.

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Sinning periodically is something even the apostles did. We all do.

Actively supporting books like "Gender Queer" in grade schools (I don't know of a single lib who is against this...they wept and gnashed teeth when Desantis had it removed and compared him to Hitler) which shows graphic images of boys going down on each other and sodomizing each other (can't post the images here) is a whole new level of sin/evil thoughg.

It's like saying, "hey that guy who exposes himself to children ain't that bad...we all sin!". It's nonsensical.

I gave you a list of evil things the average everyday democrats support and encourage. Show me some comparable stuff the average republican supports. Good luck.

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My point was that its possible for people to view those things republicans advocate for as going against Christian teachings. I'm not saying its accurate in my mind, but for instance, the treatment of immigrants, the poor in our country or even the taxation of the middle and lower class compared to the wealthy... they may view that as going against Christ's teachings. And if abortion is now illegal in their own state, then they may perceive more of a balance between the evils of both sides.
I'm just saying it is not as simple as saying that if you vote democrat you can't be a Christian. Jesus saves, not political parties. When we start equating being a Christian with being a Republican, that is dangerous. Politics for some begins to become an idol for some if they think that merely being repubican makes them a faithful Christian

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If you support genital mutliation for minors and gay p0rn books in school libraries and drag queen story hour and abortion...jesus can save you...but that requires you to stop advocating for such things and instead advocate for him, at least in your personal life.

Just give it up. The modern dem party is corrupted and perverted on a disturbing level. There is no downplaying it.

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Not advocating for those things and voting against them also does not save you. You need to advocate for him in your personal life. Voting republican saves no one and doesn't guarantee horrible things won't be done in the name of the party.

BluHorseShu said:

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William Foster said:

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William Foster said:

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No you cannot follow Christ teachings and vote for the evil democratic playform.

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But you voted for Trump???

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What does he push that is evil? Look at the list in my 1st paragraph at top of page...now tell me what Trump or republicans support that is evil or unChristian.

Yeah he's "kind of" pro choice to a further extent than I would like...but it pales in comparison to the left and he is certainly without a doubt the lesser of two evils.

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And there it is....the lesser of two evils. And in some peoples opinion, they are both evil and may see some R policies as evil and/or un Christ like. I think R policies are the lesser, but I'm just saying that all of theses discussions that are basically saying "if you vote democrat, you cannot be Christian", is dangerous. By that logic, anyone who sins periodically or makes a wrong choice isn't a Christian.

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Sinning periodically is something even the apostles did. We all do.

Actively supporting books like "Gender Queer" in grade schools (I don't know of a single lib who is against this...they wept and gnashed teeth when Desantis had it removed and compared him to Hitler) which shows graphic images of boys going down on each other and sodomizing each other (can't post the images here) is a whole new level of sin/evil thoughg.

It's like saying, "hey that guy who exposes himself to children ain't that bad...we all sin!". It's nonsensical.

I gave you a list of evil things the average everyday democrats support and encourage. Show me some comparable stuff the average republican supports. Good luck.

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My point was that its possible for people to view those things republicans advocate for as going against Christian teachings. I'm not saying its accurate in my mind, but for instance, the treatment of immigrants, the poor in our country or even the taxation of the middle and lower class compared to the wealthy... they may view that as going against Christ's teachings. And if abortion is now illegal in their own state, then they may perceive more of a balance between the evils of both sides.
I'm just saying it is not as simple as saying that if you vote democrat you can't be a Christian. Jesus saves, not political parties. When we start equating being a Christian with being a Republican, that is dangerous. Politics for some begins to become an idol for some if they think that merely being repubican makes them a faithful Christian

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If you support genital mutliation for minors and gay p0rn books in school libraries and drag queen story hour and abortion...jesus can save you...but that requires you to stop advocating for such things and instead advocate for him, at least in your personal life.

Just give it up. The modern dem party is corrupted and perverted on a disturbing level. There is no downplaying it.

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Not advocating for those things and voting against them also does not save you. You need to advocate for him in your personal life. Voting republican saves no one and doesn't guarantee horrible things won't be done in the name of the party.

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No one is arguing otherwise. This is about one party that is actively pushing and encouraging evil, in many forms.

I get it, for whatever reason, you feel the constant need to goaltend for the left...and to equate the two sides any chance you get. It's weird.

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21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.' 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.

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I'm going to guess 70% of this board has called the Dems idiots and fools just today, including myself.

I don't think anyone is defending the left, but considering the standards set, it's disingenuous to say "No Christian should ever vote Democrat" when by that standard, also the Republicans shouldn't get their vote either.

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No you cannot follow Christ's teachings and vote for the evil democratic playform.

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But you can support trump, and all his stuff?
OK….

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Which policies are evil?

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Better question is, which aren't?
Not really mentioning his policies, just his character, or, lack of.
He has no morals.
He sleeps with anything with a skirt, thinks his locker room talk is what everyone wants to hear, has affairs with porn stars, he tries to buy silence with payoffs, cusses like a drunken sailor, cheats at business deals and on his wives, makes fun of handicapped and anyone who dares question him, derides military heroes and those who have served, etc.
How can anyone explain voting for this clown, to his kids and grandkids, without them looking at you like you're a fool and idiot. Can you explain with a straight face, that you don't think trump is not senile and basically losing his mind, given his recent rants, lies, which happen every time he open his mouth. The guy is just a friggin embarrassment. But, to each his own.

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...knowing that they actively support abortion (to an alarming degree), gay cartoon p0rn books in grade schools, hedonism and debauchery, sex changes and irreversible hormone therapy for minors, assault on the nuclear family, men crushing women in sports, men changing and showering with women in the locker room, and violence and destruction in the streets when it serves a political purpose.

I have been alarmed by the number of people in my IG feed, who were always strong Christians that I looked up to...and went to Christian colleges...basically be so brainwashed as to argue that one cannot possibly be Christian and support Donald Trump. I just think it is flat out INSANE to make that argument, especially considering the vile and evil filth the democrat party actively endorses and advocates for.

But serious question, unless you are just completely naive and have been living under a rock for half a century, how can anyone call themselves a Christian and actively support and encourage the filth I laid out in paragraph 1?

I will leave you with this...

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You cannot be a Christian and vote Democrat. GOD's holiness is incompatible with child bodily mutilation, the murder of babies invitro, gender fluidity, and the breakdown of the traditional family unit. Fortunately Jesus woos the sinner to love and obey, just as he does me.

jteAg said:

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Logos Stick said:

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jteAg said:

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No you cannot follow Christ's teachings and vote for the evil democratic playform.

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But you can support trump, and all his stuff?
OK….

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Which policies are evil?

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Better question is, which aren't?
Not really mentioning his policies, just his character, or, lack of.
He has no morals.
He sleeps with anything with a skirt, thinks his locker room talk is what everyone wants to hear, has affairs with porn stars, he tries to buy silence with payoffs, cusses like a drunken sailor, cheats at business deals and on his wives, makes fun of handicapped and anyone who dares question him, derides military heroes and those who have served, etc.
How can anyone explain voting for this clown, to his kids and grandkids, without them looking at you like you're a fool and idiot. Can you explain with a straight face, that you don't think trump is not senile and basically losing his mind, given his recent rants, lies, which happen every time he open his mouth. The guy is just a friggin embarrassment. But, to each his own.

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Umm, neither Kamala nor DJT are examples of the Christian life, but one side is antagonistic towards Christians and it's pretty obvious who.

The current democratic party teaches many things against the Bible. In actuality a lot of religions teach against the word of the Bible as well.

Trump is not a saint by any means but none of us are, key thing is Trump is not claiming to be one.

The Cardinal feels really strongly that the Democratic party is Anti Christian, and we should vote accordingly.

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò
former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States of America

𝗢𝗣𝗘𝗡 𝗟𝗘𝗧𝗧𝗘𝗥 𝗧𝗢 𝗔𝗠𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗖𝗔𝗡 𝗖𝗔𝗧𝗛𝗢𝗟𝗜𝗖𝗦
𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟰 𝗣𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝗘𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻

« […] Voting for Donald Trump means firmly… pic.twitter.com/F0KiaMUfIv

— Arcivescovo Carlo Maria Viganò (@CarloMVigano) October 22, 2024

jteAg said:

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Logos Stick said:

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jteAg said:

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No you cannot follow Christ's teachings and vote for the evil democratic playform.

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But you can support trump, and all his stuff?
OK….

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Which policies are evil?

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Better question is, which aren't?
Not really mentioning his policies, just his character, or, lack of.
He has no morals.
He sleeps with anything with a skirt, thinks his locker room talk is what everyone wants to hear, has affairs with porn stars, he tries to buy silence with payoffs, cusses like a drunken sailor, cheats at business deals and on his wives, makes fun of handicapped and anyone who dares question him, derides military heroes and those who have served, etc.
How can anyone explain voting for this clown, to his kids and grandkids, without them looking at you like you're a fool and idiot. Can you explain with a straight face, that you don't think trump is not senile and basically losing his mind, given his recent rants, lies, which happen every time he open his mouth. The guy is just a friggin embarrassment. But, to each his own.

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Nice sidestep! Which of his policies are evil?

Most conservatives vote for policies not the individual. Virtually all politicians are scum. It is their policies that define the morality of your vote.

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21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.' 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.

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I'm going to guess 70% of this board has called the Dems idiots and fools just today, including myself.

I don't think anyone is defending the left, but considering the standards set, it's disingenuous to say "No Christian should ever vote Democrat" when by that standard, also the Republicans shouldn't get their vote either.

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What policies do republicans push that fly in the face of Christianity? I can obviously give you a long list in regards to the left, but just try to give me one.

What am I voting for that is immoral?

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No you cannot follow Christ's teachings and vote for the evil democratic playform.

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But you can support trump, and all his stuff?
OK….

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Which policies are evil?

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Better question is, which aren't?
Not really mentioning his policies, just his character, or, lack of.
He has no morals.
He sleeps with anything with a skirt, thinks his locker room talk is what everyone wants to hear, has affairs with porn stars, he tries to buy silence with payoffs, cusses like a drunken sailor, cheats at business deals and on his wives, makes fun of handicapped and anyone who dares question him, derides military heroes and those who have served, etc.
How can anyone explain voting for this clown, to his kids and grandkids, without them looking at you like you're a fool and idiot. Can you explain with a straight face, that you don't think trump is not senile and basically losing his mind, given his recent rants, lies, which happen every time he open his mouth. The guy is just a friggin embarrassment. But, to each his own.

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Many of those are outright lies and made up BS. But, as others have said on here, we are talking about policy...which shapes the nation/culture/our children's future etc.

And yes, I have listened to all of his recent podcasts...some of which are pretty damn long. He is sharper than the vast vast majority of men his age. To call him "senile" is laughable. You need to listen to him on all of these appearances and stop letting Rachel Maddow, Whoopi Goldberg, and Keith Olbermann tell you what to think.

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It's interesting how people reduce God to a binary choice between two flawed political ideologies. Essentially, we've reduced the person of God to a man-made political god. Jesus lived in a time of intense political divisiveness and his closest followers belonged to vastly different political ideologies. The religious hypocrites of the day tried to bait him into supporting one side or the other but he didn't bite and instead talked about loving your enemies.

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Let me guess you're not a Christian. This is word for word exactly what almost all liberals say.



You guys always use this exact combination of words. I am positive you are incapable of actually debating anything religious related on merit.

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It's interesting how people reduce God to a binary choice between two flawed political ideologies. Essentially, we've reduced the person of God to a man-made political god. Jesus lived in a time of intense political divisiveness and his closest followers belonged to vastly different political ideologies. The religious hypocrites of the day tried to bait him into supporting one side or the other but he didn't bite and instead talked about loving your enemies.

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Let me guess you're not a Christian. This is word for word exactly what almost all liberals say.



You guys always use this exact combination of words. I am positive you are incapable of actually debating anything religious related on merit.

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LOL exactly...the old "Jesus would have been a peace loving communist hippie" nonsense. They've been doing this for decades.

My Jesus preached love and forgiveness, but also (a) told his men to arm themselves, (b) warned that a punishment worse than being dragged to the bottom of the sea awaited those who simply caused little ones to sin, and (c) flipped tables and violently drove out money changers with whips after they perverted the temple.

Well, people who feel compelled to pretend to be liberal because it behooves them in their careers or some standing in social status, yet also feel somehow compelled to pretend to be Christian at times because it makes them feel better about themselves or behooves them in front of family or in-laws would certainly try to equate baby murdering to just some trivial political ideology difference that intellectual minds should be bigger than.

Sure, you're just being extra compassionate for women's health and their God-given rights to kill the life they created with another person. Just like Jesus!!! He was compassionate!

Sure. It helps you to convince yourself of this, but go ahead and feel free to do some image searches for aborted fetuses. Maybe you can even ask some AI bots to create some aborted fetus images for you... even the ones at only 10-12 weeks that are still so tiny, yet still have had arms, legs, heads, brainwaves, and heartbeats. It's okay. it was your healthcare choice and a right of yours. Go ahead and call it a lump of cells and pretend it's "healthcare" "rights" and continue pretending to be "Christian".

I don't understand how people convince themselves of this, but even some of your overlords like the Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi, alleged devout (or demonic) "Catholics" still pretend to be Christian, so why not you, too? I'm sure you'll be let into heaven with company like that, no matter how many fetuses you murder.

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— Frank Pavone (@frfrankpavone) October 25, 2024