You're paying $50k a year for your kids to use AI for everything in college

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JamesPShelley said:

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pdc093 said:

I was at a fast food place yesterday. The total was $21.66; I only had $20's, so I handed the young lady $40. She entered it into her register,which then SHOWED her how much change to give. She took the bills out of the drawer, and scooped the coins out of the coin dispenser. She COULDN'T EVEN COUNT MY CHANGE as she handed me the fistful....
A 'small' issue, with BIG ramifications.

Are you saying she just handed you a random amount without counting?

The register tells them how many of each coin and bill from each slot to hand you. They do this for speed so the person at the register doesn't have to manually count the change. This saves them 30+ seconds per customer.
My purchase total comes in at 23.78.

I give clerk a 20 and a 10.

Clerk enters in amount received... $30.

Register tells clerk to give me $6.22 in change.

I hand clerk $.78 in loose change. "Just give me $7".

I watch clerk's deer in headlights look.

Or when the total is $15.65 and you hand them a twenty and a one for $21.00, in an effort not to get a bunch of singles back... I've seen them mind blown over it, trying to give me the one back and claiming, "you gave me too much"
hamean02
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AgGrad99 said:

A. College isnt a complete waste, unless you get a degree in something that doesn't help you advance. You going to hire a CPA who didnt study accounting? How about a lawyer who didnt go to law school? A doctor who skipped medical school? How about a vet to work on your pup, who learned on the farm back home?
B. Even for some careers, which function doesn't really require a degree, simply having that paper opens doors that otherwise would be closed.
C. College is super expensive, but going to most schools isn't going to cost 300k

I look at college like I look at equipment for my business. Say I need a vehicle. I wouldnt buy a ferrari, to haul trailers. It's way too costly and doesnt provide what I need. I could buy a 20k used truck, and make money with it. You want to be a doctor? Go to the best medical school you can. You want to be a teacher?....go to the most cost-effective option you can. It's not like a middle school is going to turn you away from teaching History for going to Angelo State, instead of A&M.

Get the degree you need, to help you advance. If you dont need a degree to advance, dont go to college. It's not for everyone, but it still serves a purpose.
this. I have a freshman at Clemson (he got accepted to A&M from out of state but they offered him zero dollars and I'm a pastor so I didn't have much at all saved for school). He went to an absolute junk ball of a public high school here in SC, worked hard, and now is majoring in CIS at Clemson. Calc, Economics, Python, Geology et al this semester. Learning a ton. Loving everything about it. Has a business mentor, goes to prof office hours (Econ honors is tough) and is involved in Cru.

He's not a national merit type kid. Very good SAT not amazing. finished 6/450 in his high school class. very driven. College is perfect for him. We pay about $5-7k a year for him, scholarships the rest.

I'm not saying college is for everyone; and it seems to me the campus culture based on the kids on campus (especially the girls-- what the heck are they even wearing right now???)... favors the partiers. But there are a lot of kids who are super interested in learning more than what happens when their BAC hits .20

Big State schools offer a lot of variety of degrees and are cost effective. I have three more kids 14,15 & 15. I wonder if the traditional college experience is right for the youngest. I could see him doing trade prep. That's fine, but if you're not going to college we're coming up with a plan to get you experience doing something and figuring this out as best you can.

Yes, most colleges are ideologically bankrupt and one-sided, but not all. We've been having the AI talk since Covid where basically they said most their friends were just cheating and getting by. We talked about the long-term implications of using AI and that there will be a reckoning for these kids at some point -- either in knowledge or work-ethic or both.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Colleges stopped taking teaching seriously long ago. They stick profs or TAs that can barely speak english or are only interested in their research in front of a class of 300. This is the logical evolution where students respond in kind by using tech to get thru it as simply and easily as they can. Funny how "quick and easy" methods that may negatively impact the quality of education have not been a concern as long as the schools were the ones benefitting from it.

You are 100% correct. I had some bad teachers at A&M who had such thick foreign accents that no one could understand them. I am talking mid 90s, not last year. Now I have no problem with foreign accents, it makes it fun to hear them but some people just cannot speak English. Some foreigners can, and they are a pleasure to listen to.

These foreign profs who could not speak English had large number of research papers so that is why the Univ kept them around. But why force them to teach?

Univs today don't teach. They just filter and then make you jump through hoops and seal your forehead with a degree cert.

Univs including A&M are businesses, nothing more. For profit. So I don't donate any money to them. They can raise their own. I need my money more than they do./
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(especially the girls-- what the heck are they even wearing right now???)... .


I work at a university. They aren't wearing much of anything. Really not classy. Most swimsuits cover more.
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zooguy96 said:

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(especially the girls-- what the heck are they even wearing right now???)... .


I work at a university. They aren't wearing much of anything. Really not classy. Most swimsuits cover more.

I drop my daughter off to her high school every morning. Thing clothing girls her age (15-17) wear is appalling. How do parents allow this? How do male teachers and make classmates deal with the attention seeking distraction? My daughter is the most modest among her friends, I tell her to dress respectably, classy and elegantly but not frumpy or dowdy. It's a fine line. That is how you get respect for your achievements and skills.

Many girls are on Instagram with with boobs half out, dancing to lame jingles and get a lot of creepy attention so think this is the way to succeed.
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infinity ag said:

zooguy96 said:

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(especially the girls-- what the heck are they even wearing right now???)... .


I work at a university. They aren't wearing much of anything. Really not classy. Most swimsuits cover more.

I drop my daughter off to her high school every morning. Thing clothing girls her age (15-17) wear is appalling. How do parents allow this? How do male teachers and make classmates deal with the attention seeking distraction? My daughter is the most modest among her friends, I tell her to dress respectably, classy and elegantly but not frumpy or dowdy. It's a fine line. That is how you get respect for your achievements and skills.

Many girls are on Instagram with with boobs half out, dancing to lame jingles and get a lot of creepy attention so think this is the way to succeed.


As a former teacher - I tried to enforce dress code. I'd send females wearing daisy dukes or shirts not covering their rear ends (wearing leggings) to the office. The principal would send them back. His answer was "is this the hill we really want to die on?" I was like "then why have the rules, if you don't enforce them?

1. Too many females think that showing off skin is the way to get the right attention. It's the way to get the wrong attention.
2. Too many school administrators don't enforce the rules on the books. My principal was a flaming liberal - so go figure. Main reason I don't work there any longer.
3. Our culture is media-driven. Meaning, stupidity driven.
4. Most every kid I had a smartphone, and has access to anything imaginable. They are exposed to ideas that they aren't ready for at younger ages.
5. Too many parents try to be their kids "friends" rather than being their parents. Thankfully, all of my nieces and nephews were raised correctly; most didn't have phones until 16, and respect was the biggest thing taught. Too many have no respect, because those in authority let them skate by and there is no enforcement.
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These students might dimly slowly realize they're going to be competing against the very technology they are starting to use for jobs. They better find a value add for employers or they'll be in debt within no means to repay it outside of manual labor.
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This whole college thing is just crazy. There are two types of college students.
One that want to learn (AI won't change anything)

One that isn't necessarily wanting to learn, but creates lots of networks. (AI is this persons friend)

Both are great resources for the future and will pay you back
 
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