AgGrad99 said:
A. College isnt a complete waste, unless you get a degree in something that doesn't help you advance. You going to hire a CPA who didnt study accounting? How about a lawyer who didnt go to law school? A doctor who skipped medical school? How about a vet to work on your pup, who learned on the farm back home?
B. Even for some careers, which function doesn't really require a degree, simply having that paper opens doors that otherwise would be closed.
C. College is super expensive, but going to most schools isn't going to cost 300k
I look at college like I look at equipment for my business. Say I need a vehicle. I wouldnt buy a ferrari, to haul trailers. It's way too costly and doesnt provide what I need. I could buy a 20k used truck, and make money with it. You want to be a doctor? Go to the best medical school you can. You want to be a teacher?....go to the most cost-effective option you can. It's not like a middle school is going to turn you away from teaching History for going to Angelo State, instead of A&M.
Get the degree you need, to help you advance. If you dont need a degree to advance, dont go to college. It's not for everyone, but it still serves a purpose.
this. I have a freshman at Clemson (he got accepted to A&M from out of state but they offered him zero dollars and I'm a pastor so I didn't have much at all saved for school). He went to an absolute junk ball of a public high school here in SC, worked hard, and now is majoring in CIS at Clemson. Calc, Economics, Python, Geology et al this semester. Learning a ton. Loving everything about it. Has a business mentor, goes to prof office hours (Econ honors is tough) and is involved in Cru.
He's not a national merit type kid. Very good SAT not amazing. finished 6/450 in his high school class. very driven. College is perfect for him. We pay about $5-7k a year for him, scholarships the rest.
I'm not saying college is for everyone; and it seems to me the campus culture based on the kids on campus (especially the girls-- what the heck are they even wearing right now???)... favors the partiers. But there are a lot of kids who are super interested in learning more than what happens when their BAC hits .20
Big State schools offer a lot of variety of degrees and are cost effective. I have three more kids 14,15 & 15. I wonder if the traditional college experience is right for the youngest. I could see him doing trade prep. That's fine, but if you're not going to college we're coming up with a plan to get you experience doing something and figuring this out as best you can.
Yes, most colleges are ideologically bankrupt and one-sided, but not all. We've been having the AI talk since Covid where basically they said most their friends were just cheating and getting by. We talked about the long-term implications of using AI and that there will be a reckoning for these kids at some point -- either in knowledge or work-ethic or both.