Its like the stupid liberal fact checks that focus on a small technicality but then claim something is false, but somehow it is more dishonest than the original claim.

Example:
Claim: BLM misrepresented a police shooting
Snopes fact check says it was False!

*Small footnote* "some people did misrepresent the shooting but it wasnt BLM"

You tell me who is being dishonest.

TxAgPreacher said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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agsalaska said:

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torrid said:

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jagvocate said:

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BLM is built on lies

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So is this thread.

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Right,

So if I read this thread right the logic went something like.... Link BLM to a story where there is no known associations.....get called out for making that link......people who call it out get blamed for defending BLM....of course concerned moderates.

But the most important goal for the OP is that at least some people read it and believed it. Truth doesn't matter. It happens all day every day on this board.

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What difference does it make if they are officially BLM associated? Is that technicality really meaningful? Are we going to let the people who push Race hoax's off the hook because the perpetrators were not super duper official BLM card caring members?

Or is it an opportunity for said concerned moderates to virtue signal to the rest of us how much smarter they are than everyone else because they never ever would ever fall for stuff?

1.Thing didn't happen ( In this case the claim was BLM supporters pushed something.)
2.Thing happened but it wasn't as bad as people say (We are here) (Well it was pushed, but they were not official BLM people)
3.It's actually a good thing that thing happened (We are not yet here)
4.SHUT UP RACIST! (Soon we will be here)

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Whe. You said 'what difference does it make' You just asked me 'what difference does it matter if it is true or not'. Thats just crazy.

I will admit. I can't argue with any of that.

If I had anything for you it would be to take a step back, calm down a bit, and try to be more rational about all of this. I mean, we are on the same side, but truth and accuracy have to matter. If they don't than it's all lost.

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I just dont get the point of constantly correcting your own side and running interference for the other. Which many of the usual suspects do.

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Because when you make an argument based on a lie or incorrect information it is not logically defendable. It's not necessary and makes you not credible in any educated debate. It may work for the masses but lot with educated people. Or courts. Or reporting.

I used to tell managers all the time when dealing with tough customers 'don't do anything I can't defend.' Lying or misrepresenting someone's position is not defendable, even if you are right.

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Some people did try to misrepresent the shooting as a tragedy, and although they were not proven to be BLM, they acted the same way BLM acts.

It would be like anti facisism protestors causing problems then denying they are antifa because they arent officially a part of an antifa organization.

Calling them BLM may have been sloppy, but they are BLM types. I don't get why we have to pretend they arent.

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The one thing we all 100% understnd is you don't get the fallacy in your logic.

Deleting bookmark. Moving on.

agsalaska said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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agsalaska said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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agsalaska said:

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TxAgPreacher said:

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agsalaska said:

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torrid said:

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jagvocate said:

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BLM is built on lies

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So is this thread.

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Right,

So if I read this thread right the logic went something like.... Link BLM to a story where there is no known associations.....get called out for making that link......people who call it out get blamed for defending BLM....of course concerned moderates.

But the most important goal for the OP is that at least some people read it and believed it. Truth doesn't matter. It happens all day every day on this board.

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What difference does it make if they are officially BLM associated? Is that technicality really meaningful? Are we going to let the people who push Race hoax's off the hook because the perpetrators were not super duper official BLM card caring members?

Or is it an opportunity for said concerned moderates to virtue signal to the rest of us how much smarter they are than everyone else because they never ever would ever fall for stuff?

1.Thing didn't happen ( In this case the claim was BLM supporters pushed something.)
2.Thing happened but it wasn't as bad as people say (We are here) (Well it was pushed, but they were not official BLM people)
3.It's actually a good thing that thing happened (We are not yet here)
4.SHUT UP RACIST! (Soon we will be here)

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Whe. You said 'what difference does it make' You just asked me 'what difference does it matter if it is true or not'. Thats just crazy.

I will admit. I can't argue with any of that.

If I had anything for you it would be to take a step back, calm down a bit, and try to be more rational about all of this. I mean, we are on the same side, but truth and accuracy have to matter. If they don't than it's all lost.

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I just dont get the point of constantly correcting your own side and running interference for the other. Which many of the usual suspects do.

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Because when you make an argument based on a lie or incorrect information it is not logically defendable. It's not necessary and makes you not credible in any educated debate. It may work for the masses but lot with educated people. Or courts. Or reporting.

I used to tell managers all the time when dealing with tough customers 'don't do anything I can't defend.' Lying or misrepresenting someone's position is not defendable, even if you are right.

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Some people did try to misrepresent the shooting as a tragedy, and although they were not proven to be BLM, they acted the same way BLM acts.

It would be like anti facisism protestors causing problems then denying they are antifa because they arent officially a part of an antifa organization.

Calling them BLM may have been sloppy, but they are BLM types. I don't get why we have to pretend they arent.

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The one thing we all 100% understnd is you don't get the fallacy in your logic.

Deleting bookmark. Moving on.

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Oh yes pretend I dont understand and run away.

Yea I am not going to internet argue with someone who doesn't understand why truth and honesty matter.

Have a good night.

BLM was formed by 4 lesbian members of the US Communist Party.

One less piece of scum in the world. Great shoot!

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Yea I am not going to internet argue with someone who doesn't understand why truth and honesty matter.

Have a good night.

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Not only are you so much smarter than all of us by figuring out that it wasn't technically BLM (Even though it kind of was), BUT also you're so much more moral than us too! Only you understand honesty and truth.

There is no possible way that we perfectly understand that BLM types were spreading lies about this shooting, and that in the attempt to run cover for BLM some people are somehow being more dishonest about what really happened by claiming the story is false. They furiously type on the keyboard to make sure we all understand how much smarter they think they are than the rest of us, and about some small technicality that changes nothing in the story.

Have you considered that we just object to BLM types pretending not to be BLM, and then allowing the media, or people on an online forum, from running interference by saying 'TRUTH MATTERS IT WASNT TECHNICALLY BLM AND YOURE BAD IF YOU SAY IT WAS'

When deep down we all know the kind of people we are talking about.

Nobody is running interference. We just believe in accuracy and honesty.

Hope you have a great day.

Yes they are.

Intentionally or not.

No mention of this incident on the bureau of land management website.

Short PSA, so the thread is not hijacked...
Outdoor board has had many discussions on caliber bullets. Search there, some posts backed by actual studies and/or clear data.

I have seen doped up people shot multiple times, with many types of rounds, keep fighting.

This lady 100% had mental health issues and was likely on narcotics.

"Once we put body cams on cops they'll reveal how racist and abusive police are"

What body cams actually reveal: pic.twitter.com/Mpr64gfFvU

— Auron MacIntyre (@AuronMacintyre) October 15, 2024

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Should have shot sooner, but also shows that 9mm just doesn't always get the job done right away, and why a mag dump is often necessary.

If I was a cop, I'd be carrying a 10mm or a .45ACP.

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This...I am a 9mm guy in general, but this video makes me want to invest in something larger...I heard 10mm was about the only pistol that could bring hogs down anyways, so was already considering it.

It is scary how easy she was able to continue fighting...I am assuming hard drugs were in play.

Might be a stupid question, but are cops allowed to carry hollow points? It was almost as if he was shooting her with a pellet gun.

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Sounds like she was on PCP a horse tranquilizer.

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Nobody is running interference. We just believe in accuracy and honesty.

Hope you have a great day.

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I wonder if you , Rapier, and torrid are this concerned about terminology when "white supremist" is used in a post.

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agsalaska said:

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Nobody is running interference. We just believe in accuracy and honesty.

Hope you have a great day.

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I wonder if you , Rapier, and torrid are this concerned about terminology when "white supremist" is used in a post.

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Thats not a good analogy.

BLM is an organization. It is a 501c3(albeit a very crooked one) with an organizational structure, field offices, full time employees, etc.

'White supremacists' is just a generic term for someone who believe the white race is superior to all others.

So no. That's doesn't even make sense. A better analogy would have been the KKK being used generically in place of 'white supremacist' which I would absolutely have a problem with. That's the analogy you were looking for.


Have a great day.

Talk about a bad hair day!