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I get that, but who is responsible for the repairs?

Please try and sell me on a Starlink system versus my $60 a month direct burial fiber optic system that's fast as hell and other people repair when it breaks

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You haven't read much of the thread at all, just want to poke your head in and talk about how something you don't like isn't as good as something you do like.

If I had an option for fiber with the speeds that fiber offers, I'd have it. But I don't. I also know that after Beryl here in the Houston area, fiber networks were down across large swaths of the landscape whereas Starlink was not.

Nobody is claming that they are a panacea and the answer to all things.

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schmellba99 said:

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Science Denier said:

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RED AG 98 said:

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Science Denier said:

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$120/month + one-time fee of $379 seems pretty pricy. That is for residential service.

Let's see if it gets cheaper. Certainly has the capability of being awsome.

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If you live in a remote area, sometimes your choice is this vs $80-100 for 1/10 the bandwidth. It's a no-brainer for many folks not in the city.

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My mother in law lives in an area where she can't get internet. So while I agree it's good, he's nir going to start killing it until he can compete in the big cities. We pay $49/month for internet in a very small Texas town of about 5,000 people. It's not a gig speed, but we can stream Roku there with zero issues.

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Dude...he's killing it right now, without the big cities.

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When startlink gets close to spectrum, I am moving. Spectrum sucks and outages all the time. These internet and cell phone companies are numbered. Apple better watch out, if Tesla starts a phone and integrates it with their cars then my whole family and many others are going to leave apple.

Tesla ecosystem works seamlessly while Apple sucks.

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LOL, Spectrum. It's very cheap, and available in the small town where I have a house. We signed up for Spectrum on Aug 1, and there have been 12 outages since we've signed up. I don't live there, so it's great that it's cheap, but damn. That's a lot of outages.

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And when the heater fails?

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lol and when the asteroid hits the receiver?! There's only so much redundancy that's even worth considering.

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I've been at the heater business for 25 years and they fail all the time. Never had any problem with asteroids.

Guess when you know its failed?

The heat function on the Starlink dish is created by the radios inside of the dish. If the "heater" fails, then you're going to need to replace the dish. Not dissimilar to the question of "what do you do when your modem fails?"


If the heater weren't tied to the radios in the dish, and the connection could work if not for the snow, then you'd be correct. But for that impossible to move, 2 pound 2 inch layer of snow on the dish! If only there were someone around with a gloved hand to wash away our problems in a flurry of...snow. Alas, no glove exists within reach, and our problems persist until the sun can save us.

People are not passive observers of problems.

The ultimate vertical integration - how can you cancel someone who controls the very medium you are trying to cancel him on.

Starlink is working in the south east right now………

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Also, what happens when a flying limb takes out your Starlink device?

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What happens when Wyle E. Coyote's Acme rocket careens off path chasing the roadrunner and hits the satellite dish?

What if a bald eagle decides to make a nest on the dish?

What happens if a 747 dumps it's toilet like in Joe Dirt and the frozen meteor hits the dish?

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Does those things happen in severe weather?

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Also, what happens when a flying limb takes out your Starlink device?

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What happens when Wyle E. Coyote's Acme rocket careens off path chasing the roadrunner and hits the satellite dish?

What if a bald eagle decides to make a nest on the dish?

What happens if a 747 dumps it's toilet like in Joe Dirt and the frozen meteor hits the dish?

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Does those things happen in severe weather?

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I don't know, haven't happened to me yet. But neither has my satellite gone out because of snow either.

What I do know is that you are trying to make a point that is, well, pointless.

Have a good night.



https://www.starlink.com/support/article/529bf751-3cad-f460-d653-4af162f195da

Anyone ever have problems with the dish from Hail?

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https://news.satnews.com/2024/09/09/spacex-to-launch-ast-spacemobile-bluebird-satellites-each-the-largest-communications-array-ever-deployed-in-low-earth-orbit/

Looks like telecom is just going to partner with Elon....as much as I would like att & verizon to go away.

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If this will fix their dead zone issues and horrific coverage then I'm all for it.

No and in the case of heavy rain I use the app to see if the "dish" needs to rotate to find a signal. My house is a ranch style house so I don't need WiFi extenders either. In the case of a freeze I have no idea because in the last two I've lost power. No more of that so we will see.

Science Denier said:

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Science Denier said:

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Science Denier said:

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$120/month + one-time fee of $379 seems pretty pricy. That is for residential service.

Let's see if it gets cheaper. Certainly has the capability of being awsome.

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If you live in a remote area, sometimes your choice is this vs $80-100 for 1/10 the bandwidth. It's a no-brainer for many folks not in the city.

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My mother in law lives in an area where she can't get internet. So while I agree it's good, he's nir going to start killing it until he can compete in the big cities. We pay $49/month for internet in a very small Texas town of about 5,000 people. It's not a gig speed, but we can stream Roku there with zero issues.

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Dude...he's killing it right now, without the big cities.

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When startlink gets close to spectrum, I am moving. Spectrum sucks and outages all the time. These internet and cell phone companies are numbered. Apple better watch out, if Tesla starts a phone and integrates it with their cars then my whole family and many others are going to leave apple.

Tesla ecosystem works seamlessly while Apple sucks.

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LOL, Spectrum. It's very cheap, and available in the small town where I have a house. We signed up for Spectrum on Aug 1, and there have been 12 outages since we've signed up. I don't live there, so it's great that it's cheap, but damn. That's a lot of outages.

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It's not cheap at all where I am. Cost $20+ more per month for half the speed than AT&T fiber. Can confirm it sucks with outages. We have at least one outage per week. Last night I had a partial outage with some devices and not others. I've had more weird **** happen with their service than I can even count.

I've just been too lazy to switch to AT&T fiber which is relatively new here but it will be done. I'll double my speed and save $20.

YouBet said:

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Science Denier said:

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Medaggie said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Science Denier said:

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RED AG 98 said:

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Science Denier said:

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$120/month + one-time fee of $379 seems pretty pricy. That is for residential service.

Let's see if it gets cheaper. Certainly has the capability of being awsome.

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If you live in a remote area, sometimes your choice is this vs $80-100 for 1/10 the bandwidth. It's a no-brainer for many folks not in the city.

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My mother in law lives in an area where she can't get internet. So while I agree it's good, he's nir going to start killing it until he can compete in the big cities. We pay $49/month for internet in a very small Texas town of about 5,000 people. It's not a gig speed, but we can stream Roku there with zero issues.

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Dude...he's killing it right now, without the big cities.

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When startlink gets close to spectrum, I am moving. Spectrum sucks and outages all the time. These internet and cell phone companies are numbered. Apple better watch out, if Tesla starts a phone and integrates it with their cars then my whole family and many others are going to leave apple.

Tesla ecosystem works seamlessly while Apple sucks.

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LOL, Spectrum. It's very cheap, and available in the small town where I have a house. We signed up for Spectrum on Aug 1, and there have been 12 outages since we've signed up. I don't live there, so it's great that it's cheap, but damn. That's a lot of outages.

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It's not cheap at all where I am. Cost $20+ more per month for half the speed than AT&T fiber. Can confirm it sucks with outages. We have at least one outage per week. Last night I had a partial outage with some devices and not others. I've had more weird **** happen with their service than I can even count.

I've just been too lazy to switch to AT&T fiber which is relatively new here but it will be done. I'll double my speed and save $20.

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We had AT&T. They charged $80 for internet. And that was discounted with a bundle of TV and phone. Spectrum is $49.99. Don't know if it's slower, but streaming Roku is plenty fast. We dropped the phone and TV.

Spacex was just the launch vehicle. AT&T and Verizon are partnered with a company called ASTS for 5G straight to your normal phone when out side of normal coverage.

T-Mobile has aligned with starlink.
Asts has a clear technology and regulation path where as starlink and Elon are busy asking the fcc to ignore their interference with others as no big deal.

Who will win is to be seen but the days of dead zones are ending, at least for those that are willing to pay an extra fee.

That it's not for you doesn't mean that it isn't the best thing available for millions of people. And no other single company is in the position that it is to serve potentially billions. Yes, lots of domestic companies across the world provide services today, but that's the point. Starlink is in position to be a major disruptor globally.

BREAKING: India’s government said it will allot spectrum for satellite broadband administratively and not via auction, hours after Elon Musk criticized the auction route being sought by billionaire Mukesh Ambani.

Good News for Starlink 🇮🇳 pic.twitter.com/YWIcv32V1n

— DogeDesigner (@cb_doge) October 15, 2024

Italy to test Starlink satellites to offer internet connection services in some remote areas and areas without terrestrial infrastructure. pic.twitter.com/wNiOWeYZzv

— DogeDesigner (@cb_doge) October 15, 2024

KENYA SEES HUGE GROWTH IN SATELLITE INTERNET WITH STARLINK

Kenya's satellite subscriptions surged in the 2023/24 financial year, mainly due to Starlink Internet Services.

In Q4, subscriptions jumped 73.1%, from 4,808 in March to 8,324 in June, with year-over-year growth of… pic.twitter.com/3pW399Alg3

— Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) October 15, 2024

SpaceX's @Starlink Direct to Cell (DTC) constellation has not been fully deployed – only ~25% of the total number of planned satellites are in orbit – so all services will be delivered on a best-effort basis.

Starlink DTC fleet and coverage as of today via Darwin Satcom https://t.co/gzmZH5pwAT pic.twitter.com/JWmMWhL67R

— ALEX (@ajtourville) October 9, 2024

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Spacex was just the launch vehicle. AT&T and Verizon are partnered with a company called ASTS for 5G straight to your normal phone when out side of normal coverage.

T-Mobile has aligned with starlink.
Asts has a clear technology and regulation path where as starlink and Elon are busy asking the fcc to ignore their interference with others as no big deal.

Who will win is to be seen but the days of dead zones are ending, at least for those that are willing to pay an extra fee.

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Is ASTS also using low orbit satellites and are they essentially a competitor to Starlink services?

JFABNRGR said:

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aaronag02 said:

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Spacex was just the launch vehicle. AT&T and Verizon are partnered with a company called ASTS for 5G straight to your normal phone when out side of normal coverage.

T-Mobile has aligned with starlink.
Asts has a clear technology and regulation path where as starlink and Elon are busy asking the fcc to ignore their interference with others as no big deal.

Who will win is to be seen but the days of dead zones are ending, at least for those that are willing to pay an extra fee.

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Is ASTS also using low orbit satellites and are they essentially a competitor to Starlink services?

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Yes, AST Science is a competitor of Starlink (that happens to launch its satellites using Starlink parent SpaceX ).

The idea is similar but the solution is vastly different. The ASTS sats are massive (700 sq ft once unfurled!) and they're planning a couple hundred total in LEO. Only 5 sats fit on on Falcon 9 as compared to 30+ current gen Starlink. They just launched the first 5 last month and have very limited service in the 20Mbps range for trials only, so they are years behind.

There are already 5,500 Starlink sats in orbit and they are planning tens of thousands.

Science Denier said:

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YouBet said:

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Science Denier said:

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Medaggie said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Science Denier said:

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RED AG 98 said:

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Science Denier said:

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$120/month + one-time fee of $379 seems pretty pricy. That is for residential service.

Let's see if it gets cheaper. Certainly has the capability of being awsome.

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If you live in a remote area, sometimes your choice is this vs $80-100 for 1/10 the bandwidth. It's a no-brainer for many folks not in the city.

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My mother in law lives in an area where she can't get internet. So while I agree it's good, he's nir going to start killing it until he can compete in the big cities. We pay $49/month for internet in a very small Texas town of about 5,000 people. It's not a gig speed, but we can stream Roku there with zero issues.

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Dude...he's killing it right now, without the big cities.

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When startlink gets close to spectrum, I am moving. Spectrum sucks and outages all the time. These internet and cell phone companies are numbered. Apple better watch out, if Tesla starts a phone and integrates it with their cars then my whole family and many others are going to leave apple.

Tesla ecosystem works seamlessly while Apple sucks.

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LOL, Spectrum. It's very cheap, and available in the small town where I have a house. We signed up for Spectrum on Aug 1, and there have been 12 outages since we've signed up. I don't live there, so it's great that it's cheap, but damn. That's a lot of outages.

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It's not cheap at all where I am. Cost $20+ more per month for half the speed than AT&T fiber. Can confirm it sucks with outages. We have at least one outage per week. Last night I had a partial outage with some devices and not others. I've had more weird **** happen with their service than I can even count.

I've just been too lazy to switch to AT&T fiber which is relatively new here but it will be done. I'll double my speed and save $20.

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We had AT&T. They charged $80 for internet. And that was discounted with a bundle of TV and phone. Spectrum is $49.99. Don't know if it's slower, but streaming Roku is plenty fast. We dropped the phone and TV.

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Spectrum is $100 for 500mb where we are. AT&T is $80 for a gig.