TexasRebel said:

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Sure hope it doesn't rain during a disaster.

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All those folks on the east coast like NC seem perfectly fine with a little attenuation during the rain in exchange for having internet and comms in immediate days and weeks following, It's not a perfect solution, but a trade-off millions are willing to make.

No contract, unlimited very fast internet. It may get cheaper, but it's not a bad bargain.

outofstateaggie said:

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Read something crazy yesterday that said there are around 11,000 satellites orbiting the earth and about 4,500 of them are Starlink. That's insane.

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It gets even more insane when you realize things are really just getting started.

How in the heck is NORAD keeping up with everything in space now. Getting crowded up there.

No Spin Ag said:

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outofstateaggie said:

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Read something crazy yesterday that said there are around 11,000 satellites orbiting the earth and about 4,500 of them are Starlink. That's insane.

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It gets even more insane when you realize things are really just getting started.

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And even more insane when you do the math on how much of that satellite total that SpaceX has launched, from memory I think they are approaching 80-90% of all mass the last few years.

Science Denier said:

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$120/month + one-time fee of $379 seems pretty pricy. That is for residential service.

Let's see if it gets cheaper. Certainly has the capability of being awsome.

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xFINITY wanted $5k+ to run a cable to 475ft. to our house. That was with them already having a node on the street and a straight shot with telephone poles to the house.

$500 didn't seem like a bad deal after that.

Science Denier said:

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$120/month + one-time fee of $379 seems pretty pricy. That is for residential service.

Let's see if it gets cheaper. Certainly has the capability of being awsome.

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My understanding is that you can take it with you anywhere. It sets up automatically wherever you are. Opens up like a little remote satellite receiver. That's a bit beyond residential. I could be wrong, but if that's the case, the extra might be worth it.

Owlagdad said:

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I send my $120 a month to Elon. No problems with Starlink

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Same.

My biggest question is that when all of this new stuff opens up, how much more than $120 a month will Elon want? My Starlink has already gone from $100 to $120.

Musk is Henry Ford, everyone else is horse buggy manufacturers.

Science Denier said:

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$120/month + one-time fee of $379 seems pretty pricy. That is for residential service.

Let's see if it gets cheaper. Certainly has the capability of being awsome.

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Prior to Starlink I had a handful of options for internet out in the country where I live, and none of those options were worth anything.

Frontier had me at 25megs (that is what they had me at, I rarely got above 18megs), and that was the best they or anybody else could do. Hot spots were another option, but they all suck, and there are a couple of WISPS int eh area that everybody who uses them complains about non stop. Could barely stream, and if everybody in the house was on a device things would noticeably slow down, sometimes to the point where I would just turn the TV off because you couldn't watch anything due to buffering and/or poor picture quality.

Starlink has me at ~125megs (last I checked), took about 30 minutes to set up and the only time I've lost service was at the height of Beryl. Next day when I got the generator fired up I wired the Starlink router to an outlet that worked and had internet again inside of 5 minutes.

Will def switch when it's cheaper.

Most likely though will wait until he releases a phone that runs on starlink

Ag87H2O said:

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Musk is so far ahead of everyone else they can't even see him with their high beams. It says something when the Europeans start acknowledging how far ahead he is. He's probably the best engineer/innovator/entrepeneur since Henry Ford.

Musk has had one heck of a good week.

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......... And he is on our side.

Big Al 1992 said:

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Musk is Henry Ford, everyone else is horse buggy manufacturers.

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Ford didn't even put the engine in the buggy. He just built them more economically.

A redundant land-based system would seem very important for defense and emergencies.

But this seems like A good move in general

I thought it was $299? Oh well. In November'22 I paid $100 to get on the wait list then another $400 once available for $120 per month. In May this year was able to add mini (excellent for deer lease, for an extra $30 per month. My brother said he's seeing it for $180 per month bundle. Guess my initial investment is paying off.

You have to understand before that I had no options for high speed internet. Sure Verizon but try having two to three devices streaming at the same time now it's amazing. And the reach. I live on 6 acres. WiFi goes a long way. Why does this matter? Game/security cameras.

Your next step is a generac. I know it's expensive but there's options for what you absolutely have to have. For us it's everything in central Texas. Mainly the last three freezes. But tornados say hello as well as the idiot that hits a transformer.

He will. That's why I'm not upgrading my i phone.

Bezos better light a fire under some folks or his Starlink competitor, Kuiper, is going to be too little too late.

schmellba99 said:

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Science Denier said:

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$120/month + one-time fee of $379 seems pretty pricy. That is for residential service.

Let's see if it gets cheaper. Certainly has the capability of being awsome.

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Prior to Starlink I had a handful of options for internet out in the country where I live, and none of those options were worth anything.

Frontier had me at 25megs (that is what they had me at, I rarely got above 18megs), and that was the best they or anybody else could do. Hot spots were another option, but they all suck, and there are a couple of WISPS int eh area that everybody who uses them complains about non stop. Could barely stream, and if everybody in the house was on a device things would noticeably slow down, sometimes to the point where I would just turn the TV off because you couldn't watch anything due to buffering and/or poor picture quality.

Starlink has me at ~125megs (last I checked), took about 30 minutes to set up and the only time I've lost service was at the height of Beryl. Next day when I got the generator fired up I wired the Starlink router to an outlet that worked and had internet again inside of 5 minutes.

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Here too... works great!

I have an ECOFLOW battery generator acting as an uninterrupted power supply - pulls 39 watts. We've only lost service like once or twice during really really hard rain.

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RED AG 98 said:

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Starlink + SpaceX has the potential to be among the world's most valuable companies. Completely disruptive, not just in the US mind you, but world wide in both comms and space. Massive.

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Elon has toyed with the idea of making a phone, coupled w starlink this would be pretty bad ass.

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If he does this and it works it's game over for the terrestrial based phone makers. He could lock that technology to his satellites long enough to get people hooked on it before licensing it to competitors.

If we have fiber as a backup, can we not have the government involved? Didn't the VP who worked her way to the top by getting on her knees spend like 40 billion and nothing happened?

Good. Telecom companies have best resting solely on barriers to entry for decades now, resulting in next to zero innovation and zero customer service. F*** them.

Good internet in rural areas is a game changer for those who's only hesitation moving out there is being able to work from home.

the aliens will just use them against us....

So when can we expect an Iron man suit?

captkirk said:

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So when can we expect an Iron man suit?

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Never thought of that but yeah, he's basically Tony Stark

RED AG 98 said:

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Science Denier said:

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$120/month + one-time fee of $379 seems pretty pricy. That is for residential service.

Let's see if it gets cheaper. Certainly has the capability of being awsome.

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If you live in a remote area, sometimes your choice is this vs $80-100 for 1/10 the bandwidth. It's a no-brainer for many folks not in the city.

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My mother in law lives in an area where she can't get internet. So while I agree it's good, he's nir going to start killing it until he can compete in the big cities. We pay $49/month for internet in a very small Texas town of about 5,000 people. It's not a gig speed, but we can stream Roku there with zero issues.

can someone explain to me how this would make fiber obsolete?

He most certainly will kill it with rural folks. I live in a rural CO town. We have fiber in town, but not much further out than that. We have had a 20% increase in people moving to our county and the number one reason given is Starlink and ability to WFH. Lost of people moving here to get away from cities to live in a picturesque town in the mountains.

My parents live in rural East Texas, no internet availability for 20+ years until now with Starlink. That was their Christmas Present this year from sis and I, a year of Starlink.

I run an outfitting service with a lodge. Number one complaint I get from hunters is no internet/cell service at the lodge. I got Starlink this past year. Needless to say, my phone gets more calls because guys with FU money can now stay connected while hunting. It is a major game changer from my chair.