Huge victory for Christian cake baker after more than a decade of LGBTQ harassment

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TheWoodlandsTxAg
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Christian cake baker has finally defeated legal harassment from the LGBTQ+ movement after fighting in court for more than a decade.

Jack Phillips was sued in 2012 for refusing to create a cake for a same-sex couple at his Masterpiece Cakeshop in Colorado and then later sued for refusing to create a cake celebrating a transgender transition. Attorneys for the Alliance Defending Freedom have defended Phillips for 12 years.

On Tuesday the Colorado Supreme Court dismissed the second lawsuit after saying that the attorney who filed the lawsuit did not follow the proper process to do so. Phillips won the first lawsuit in 2018 after a court found that officials acted with hostility against his faith.

"Free speech is for everyone," he added. "In this case, an attorney demanded that Jack create a custom cake that would celebrate and symbolize a transition from male to female. Because that cake admittedly expresses a message, and because Jack cannot express that message for anyone, the government cannot punish Jack for declining to express it. The First Amendment protects that decision."

The ADF said that the attorney who sued Phillips had also asked him to decorate a cake with the image of Satan smoking marijuana in an attempt to "correct the errors" of Phillips' thinking.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/cake-maker-wins-lgbtq-cases

All of these cases should be dismissed after the Supreme Court decision in 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis.

The 6-3 majority decision of the Supreme Court in 303 Creative v. Elenis: "The First Amendment prohibits Colorado from forcing a website designer to create expressive designs speaking messages with which the designer disagrees. United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit reversed."

Edited: Here is the ADF Press Release https://adflegal.org/press-release/colorado-supreme-court-dismisses-lawsuit-harassing-cake-artist-jack-phillips?sourcecode=11034408_r200

They talk about 303 Creative vs. Elenis:

ADF Senior Counsel Jake Warner. "Free speech is for everyone. As the U.S. Supreme Court held in 303 Creative, the government cannot force artists to express messages they don't believe. In this case, an attorney demanded that Jack create a custom cake that would celebrate and symbolize a transition from male to female. Because that cake admittedly expresses a message, and because Jack cannot express that message for anyone, the government cannot punish Jack for declining to express it. The First Amendment protects that decision."

Just last year, the U.S. Supreme Court issued its landmark decision in 303 Creative v. Elenis, which upheld free speech for creative professionals like Phillips. ADF attorneys asked the Colorado high court to apply that ruling and similarly affirm Phillips' free-speech rights in this case. Though the Colorado Supreme Court did not decide that issue in this case, 303 Creative provides enduring free-speech protection for Phillips.

ADF has 15 Supreme Court victories and a 80% win rate.
Burrus86
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The Courts should give the baker the right to countersuit for damages caused by these lawsuits. Give the alphabet community a dose of their own medicine.
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DrEvazanPhD
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But the gheys just want to be treated the same as everyone else..
jagvocate
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But the left just wants a chance to love, they're not trying to change anything

AgTrip
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C@LAg said:

they (the gay nazis) are just going to do it again
schmellba99
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TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

On Tuesday the Colorado Supreme Court dismissed the second lawsuit after saying that the attorney who filed the lawsuit did not follow the proper process to do so. Phillips won the first lawsuit in 2018 after a court found that officials acted with hostility against his faith.



That attorney will just file new paperwork in the correct manner.

I really wish the courts would do their job and put an end to crap like this, but they never will and technicalities will always allow lawfare and banktruptcy through lawsuits to be a part of the system.
TheWoodlandsTxAg
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schmellba99 said:

TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

On Tuesday the Colorado Supreme Court dismissed the second lawsuit after saying that the attorney who filed the lawsuit did not follow the proper process to do so. Phillips won the first lawsuit in 2018 after a court found that officials acted with hostility against his faith.



That attorney will just file new paperwork in the correct manner.

I really wish the courts would do their job and put an end to crap like this, but they never will and technicalities will always allow lawfare and banktruptcy through lawsuits to be a part of the system.
The man who sued him is an attorney who moved from California to Colorado for the express purpose of persecuting and suing him over his religious beliefs.
frenchtoast
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There are so many better ways to leave the world better than you found it. These pieces of **** need to leave this guy alone and find a more productive way to live their lives.
Squadron7
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TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

schmellba99 said:

TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

On Tuesday the Colorado Supreme Court dismissed the second lawsuit after saying that the attorney who filed the lawsuit did not follow the proper process to do so. Phillips won the first lawsuit in 2018 after a court found that officials acted with hostility against his faith.



That attorney will just file new paperwork in the correct manner.

I really wish the courts would do their job and put an end to crap like this, but they never will and technicalities will always allow lawfare and banktruptcy through lawsuits to be a part of the system.
The man who sued him is an attorney who moved from California to Colorado for the express purpose of persecuting and suing him over his religious beliefs.

"Man".

I laughed.
Squadron7
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I had this discussion with a lefty who had a side gig singing at weddings. I asked if she should be able to refuse a gig at the Westboro Baptist Church.

You won't believe this...but, apparently, that was different!
4stringAg
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schmellba99 said:

TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

On Tuesday the Colorado Supreme Court dismissed the second lawsuit after saying that the attorney who filed the lawsuit did not follow the proper process to do so. Phillips won the first lawsuit in 2018 after a court found that officials acted with hostility against his faith.



That attorney will just file new paperwork in the correct manner.

I really wish the courts would do their job and put an end to crap like this, but they never will and technicalities will always allow lawfare and banktruptcy through lawsuits to be a part of the system.
I feel you are right. IF indeed this was dismissed on some process issue and not on merits, this clown will be back for another bite at the apple. They have hounded this baker for a ton of years. I want this baker in a foxhole with me if the **** goes down because he doesn't quit and won't compromise his beliefs.
BadMoonRisin
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Damn now I kind of want a cake of Satan smoking weed now.
dreyOO
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Burrus86 said:

The Courts should give the baker the right to countersuit for damages caused by these lawsuits. Give the alphabet community a dose of their own medicine.

Loser pays would solve a lot of our problems beyond this one.
2023NCAggies
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They have put that dude through hell, cannot believe he is still standing, good for him. The DEMs are terrible people
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No Spin Ag
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Burrus86 said:

The Courts should give the baker the right to countersuit for damages caused by these lawsuits. Give the alphabet community a dose of their own medicine.


Needs another star.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
rocky the dog
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I have a cake for the shop owner who won the case...

Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
schmellba99
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TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

schmellba99 said:

TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

On Tuesday the Colorado Supreme Court dismissed the second lawsuit after saying that the attorney who filed the lawsuit did not follow the proper process to do so. Phillips won the first lawsuit in 2018 after a court found that officials acted with hostility against his faith.



That attorney will just file new paperwork in the correct manner.

I really wish the courts would do their job and put an end to crap like this, but they never will and technicalities will always allow lawfare and banktruptcy through lawsuits to be a part of the system.
The man who sued him is an attorney who moved from California to Colorado for the express purpose of persecuting and suing him over his religious beliefs.
How pathetic is your life if you do something like this? I can't imagine being that pathetic and that consumed with a single person.

Honestly that lawyer is deranged AF in my mind and what he did should be classified as a hate crime and treated as such.
EX TEXASEX
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The term I think you are looking for is Gaystapo. Like the Gestapo, they are pretty vicious.

EX TEXASEX
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Squadron7 said:

I had this discussion with a lefty who had a side gig singing at weddings. I asked if she should be able to refuse a gig at the Westboro Baptist Church.

You won't believe this...but, apparently, that was different! (D)ifferent.
I am not surprised in the least. In fact anybody on this board more than 5 minutes is not surprised at all.
The left and gays are consistently, inconsistent !!!
Claverack
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This man should be compensated by his accusers for the lawfare waged against him. In other countries, he would be given that satisfaction.

Our system gives too much protection to the litigiously insane, especially those who are motivated more by political animus against the accused than in any actual harm done them.

They will keep coming at him because he has no protection from their predatory tactics aside from that being granted him by the Alliance Defending Freedom and those who give to them.





TheWoodlandsTxAg
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Claverack said:

This man should be compensated by his accusers for the lawfare waged against him. In other countries, he would be given that satisfaction.

Our system gives too much protection to the litigiously insane, especially those who are motivated more by political animus against the accused than in any actual harm done them.

They will keep coming at him because he has no protection from their predatory tactics aside from that being granted him by the Alliance Defending Freedom and those who give to them.






There should be 20 different ADFs (Alliance Defending Freedom).

The Left and Democrats have thousands of versions of their own ADFs.
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dreyOO said:

Burrus86 said:

The Courts should give the baker the right to countersuit for damages caused by these lawsuits. Give the alphabet community a dose of their own medicine.

Loser pays would solve a lot of our problems beyond this one.

I used to think so too, until I started running into a lot of bad and biased judges.

What we need is comprehensive immigration litigation reform. No, not the tort reform you keep hearing about that only keeps Plaintiffs down. But reform that does things like:

-- requires ALL pleadings, including answers, to be verified by both party and attorney (good faith investigation into facts and law); no more "general denials" -- if a Plaintiff has a valid claim, it shouldn't take 2 years to go to court on it.
-- a "pre-trial" judge that decides whether a Plaintiff's claims AND a Defendant's defenses have prima facie merit to move forward; if one or more of them don't, on either side, a bond would be required to proceed to litigation.
-- Mediation required before discovery

We also need the state legislatures to get off their butts and codify civil tort law. I don't have a problem with courts defining what actions, for example, constitute a breach of a particular duty or contract, but I have a huge problem with courts deciding what elements make up a specific tort or contract law causes of action. The legislature has done that with respect to criminal law; why not civil tort and contract law?
mjschiller
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LGBT and like are satan's minions. Pure evil.
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should be classified as a hate crime and treated as such.

This. At some point rational people should see who is on the hate crime side of this equation. Sadly these types shriek that R will take their ungayed babies from them, despite zero evidence when the opportunity arose.
ts5641
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I'm sure the next person will walk in his shop, request something repulsive, and start the process all over again when he refuses.
I applaud his courage and tenacity.
BMX Bandit
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Colorado Supreme Court said the translady should have filed the challenge to commission decision in appellate court, not the district (trial) court. I don't know if she can challenge it still in appellate court or if that deadline has long passed.

While it's great this case was dismissed, this is hardly a huge victory. Colorado Supreme Court has just set this poor man up for more harassment.
Owlagdad
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Goes to show you , it's all about them, not their rights. Attention seekers. They really don't want to be like everyone else. They want to be put on pedestal.
ExPeterKeating
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I don't judge the morals of paying clients. The baker should charge them $5000 in advance, take the money and deposit $4950. Buy the materials and overhead with the remaining $50. Pee in the batter, burn the cake, pee in the icing, let my 5 year old decorate it, and deliver the cake as promised. Unless quality is identified in the contract, deliver the burned pee cake, and thank them for their business. They don't intend to eat it anyway. This is harassment. Profit from the activism.
Opalka
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From what I read, the Colorado Supreme Court just punted with no judgement, and allowing the transgender person to refile the lawsuit a different way. The question is, was this cake something out of the ordinary? If so, then the baker can refuse. If it's just a cake that is pink and blue, and nothing else involved, then it's discrimination and against Colorado law.
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Opalka said:

From what I read, the Colorado Supreme Court just punted with no judgement, and allowing the transgender person to refile the lawsuit a different way. The question is, was this cake something out of the ordinary? If so, then the baker can refuse. If it's just a cake that is pink and blue, and nothing else involved, then it's discrimination and against Colorado law.
You need to read more.

A lot more.
BMX Bandit
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Opalka said:

From what I read, the Colorado Supreme Court just punted with no judgement, and allowing the transgender person to refile the lawsuit a different way. The question is, was this cake something out of the ordinary? If so, then the baker can refuse. If it's just a cake that is pink and blue, and nothing else involved, then it's discrimination and against Colorado law.
you may be right, but thats not what happened here. it was not "just a cake"

the translady said "I want a pink cake with blue frosting"

Masterpiece cakeshop said "no problem"

translady responded "its to celebrate my transition"

Masterpiece cakeshop said "that conflicts with my religion, so I can't help you. Sorry"



scardina didn't want a cake. she wanted a political case.
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