Fed meeting today - rate cut

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SECTAMU#1 said:

25 basis points
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Jeeper79 said:

Gaw617 said:

Any rate cut means it is purely political. Inflation is still very strong
The job market is softening. That's the other half of the Fed's mandate, and the one they're paying closer attention to.


which employment numbers are they following. the bogus lies on employment numbers all the way up until 3 weeks ago or the revised numbers everyone knew were coming at some point in time. this whole charade is laughable. powell is a joke who has no idea what he is doing much like yellen.
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Answer coming soon...

https://www.youtube.com/live/_21pbizBR9Y
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Jeeper79 said:

Jerome Powell is Trump's appointee. But either way, I don't think that affects the decision. I think it's 25 basis points.
Jerome Powell detests Trump (this is an open secret in DC, and financial circles), who has publicly stated he will not re-appoint him, and warned against cutting rates prior to the election.

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No cut today
Makes it clear the next move will be down

Same as it has been for the last three meetings
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.25
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I hope they raise the rates
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Inflation continues to rise. There will be a raise in the rate.
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Jeeper79 said:

fc2112 said:

I want a 0.50% cut as there will be a reactionary market bump and I got a few positions to unload.
I think .5 causes a freak out.


Why?
hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. good times create weak men. and weak men create hard times.

less virtue signaling, more vice signaling.

Birds aren’t real
Lol,lmao
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Reduction announced - 1/2 pt

Yikes!
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the Fed officially cuts the rate by 50 basis points.
MasonB
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1/4 drop was priced in. A market bump required a bigger reduction…which also means they must be seeing bad things on the horizon
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Cutting rates at "full employment."

Let's just say the price stability mandate of the Fed is officially dead.
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Desperation setting in
Rapier108
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The Harris Assistance rate cut.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Let's see what his PC brings in 25 mins. May sink the markets when he explains why they went with 50 basis points.
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MasonB said:

1/4 drop was priced in. A market bump required a bigger reduction…which also means they must be seeing bad things on the horizon
And yet the market just shot up.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Powell doin' work for the Dems!
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Rapier108 said:

MasonB said:

1/4 drop was priced in. A market bump required a bigger reduction…which also means they must be seeing bad things on the horizon
And yet the market just shot up.
The market and the economy are not the same thing. They can move in diff directions easily.

Bad things on the horizon could be hundreds of thousands of jobs lost. The market will react happily because of the incoming Fed stimulus and the asset inflation it causes.
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That's the first part of my comment - a 1/4 was priced in but a 1/2 was not.

Short term pop - but will likely fade/fall as the numbers behind it come to light
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Sims said:

Rapier108 said:

MasonB said:

1/4 drop was priced in. A market bump required a bigger reduction…which also means they must be seeing bad things on the horizon
And yet the market just shot up.
The market and the economy are not the same thing. They can move in diff directions easily.

Bad things on the horizon could be hundreds of thousands of jobs lost. The market will react happily because of the incoming Fed stimulus and the asset inflation it causes.
Oh I know, but the media and Democrats will focus on the stock market to claim it is proof that Bidenomics is working and we should continue with Harris.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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And like white on rice, with any possible 'bad news' for the Trump campaign, we have the usual show up…
Tex117
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What is the fed looking at to take this kind of a cut? Something in the data has them concerned.
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Rapier108 said:

MasonB said:

1/4 drop was priced in. A market bump required a bigger reduction…which also means they must be seeing bad things on the horizon
And yet the market just shot up.
Its fading pretty quick.

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Tex117 said:

What is the fed looking at to take this kind of a cut? Something in the data has them concerned.

The election polls.
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Max Stonetrail said:

Tex117 said:

What is the fed looking at to take this kind of a cut? Something in the data has them concerned.

The election polls.
its not just that. Nothing is that simplistic at that level
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Max Stonetrail said:

Tex117 said:

What is the fed looking at to take this kind of a cut? Something in the data has them concerned.

The election polls.
Given the polls come out lately, I doubt Harris needs any help from the Fed.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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TyHolden said:

I'm betting everything on the Eggies this weekend to cover. Screw the feds.
Yea boi. Me after FL game last wk...

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Just give it another 10 mins or so. Powell will tell you.
We fixed the keg
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Given the opportunity of a short-term sugar high or working to get inflation under control....

Fed chooses: Sugar baby!!
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Tex117 said:

What is the fed looking at to take this kind of a cut? Something in the data has them concerned.

The federal deficit and the interest on the national debt. The house of cards is getting wobbly.
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Rapier108 said:

Max Stonetrail said:

Tex117 said:

What is the fed looking at to take this kind of a cut? Something in the data has them concerned.

The election polls.
Given the polls come out lately, I doubt Harris needs any help from the Fed.



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Kraft Punk said:

Rapier108 said:

Max Stonetrail said:

Tex117 said:

What is the fed looking at to take this kind of a cut? Something in the data has them concerned.

The election polls.
Given the polls come out lately, I doubt Harris needs any help from the Fed.

He really just can't help himself. Meanwhile, Democrat Nate Silver gives Trump a 58+ percent chance to win. Sad!
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Ag87H2O said:

Tex117 said:

What is the fed looking at to take this kind of a cut? Something in the data has them concerned.

The federal deficit and the interest on the national debt. The house of cards is getting wobbly.

And pumping up Kamala.

Another month would not have mattered. Powell waited for months - until March of 2022 - after skyrocketing inflation and yet pulls the trigger early here. It's election interference. Powell hates trump, has made that clear and he's deep state.

Quote:

July 28, 2021: The Fed holds rates steady at near-zero levels, labeling rising inflation a "transitory" phenomenon
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Tex117 said:

Max Stonetrail said:

Tex117 said:

What is the fed looking at to take this kind of a cut? Something in the data has them concerned.

The election polls.
its not just that. Nothing is that simplistic at that level
Powell is a politcal animal and this is a largely political decision. Has been throughout the B-H admin. This admin started it by slow walking his re-confirmation to wait to make sure he would leave rates low so they could get the IRA passed. Once that was passed and he was confirmed, he promptly raised rages 0.75 bps 3 times in quick succession, which ultimately led to the highest inflation in 40 years. He also knows there is no way he stays on if Trump is elected.

Historically, over almost all of the last 10 or so Fed rate changes, the immediate market reaction direction reversed course over the following weeks. If this holds, we are likely headed down.

 
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