blatant lie by Kamala about Jan 6th

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Logos Stick
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First, she wasn't there.

Second, no cop died that day. And no cop died subsequently from any injury sustained that day.

Also, to my knowledge Trump has never been indicted for the incident on Jan 6th. If I'm wrong, let me know.

CDUB98
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Communists lie, always.
GoAgs11
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A hero in ashli babbit was a killed by a coward thats what happened
panamamyers00
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It's one of those Tim Walz lies. She was technically there. Not at any point in time when anything was going on, but on that date she was there.
I can't believe people actually care about J6, either at that time or now. Such a non event. I can't help but think that stuff like this ends up pushing more people to vote for Trump. Like what are we even doing talking about it nearly four years later. It's asinine.
Muy
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The issue isn't that she's a raging liar. It's that the dumb masses will take her word for it, and the MSM and all leftist shows won't tell Americans that she is lying.

If any Americans are killed by illegals they let into this country, let it be Joy Behart first.
MouthBQ98
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She has never clarified why she was at the DNC HQ building when the certification for her election was occurring at the capitol. That has always been odd.
4stringAg
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The question itself was a ridiculous "when did you stop beating your wife" moment that is like way way down the list of what Americans care about. Then the mods let Kamala respond with a "what did you think about Trump's response to J6" to let her kick him in the nuts a few more times over it.

That question and the question for Trump on her race were the epitome of how a biased moderator can influence a debate in the way the question is asked and what is asked.
Aggie95
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ABC is still searching for the facts to check.....please hold
Im Gipper
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How in the world was it a "have you stopped beating your wife" question???


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DAVID MUIR: Linsey, thank you. We have an election in just 56 days. I want to talk about the peaceful transfer of power, which of course we all know was a cornerstone of our democracy and the role of a president in a moment of crisis. Mr. President, on January 6th you told your supporters to march to the Capitol. You said you would be right there with them. The country and the world saw what played out at the Capitol that day. The officers coming under attack. Aides in the West Wing say you watched it unfold on television off the Oval Office. You did send out tweets, but it was more than two hours before you sent out that video message telling your supporters to go home. Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day?

Simple to answer. "You have mischaracterized what happened and I don't regret my actions because I told people to be peaceful"


I'm Gipper
CDUB98
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Simple to answer. "You have mischaracterized what happened and I don't regret my actions because I told people to be peaceful"
You're asking a lot from Trump there.
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panamamyers00 said:

It's one of those Tim Walz lies. She was technically there. Not at any point in time when anything was going on, but on that date she was there.
I can't believe people actually care about J6, either at that time or now. Such a non event. I can't help but think that stuff like this ends up pushing more people to vote for Trump. Like what are we even doing talking about it nearly four years later. It's asinine.

Absolutely agree. It was a giant nothingburger.
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Im Gipper said:

How in the world was it a "have you stopped beating your wife" question???


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DAVID MUIR: Linsey, thank you. We have an election in just 56 days. I want to talk about the peaceful transfer of power, which of course we all know was a cornerstone of our democracy and the role of a president in a moment of crisis. Mr. President, on January 6th you told your supporters to march to the Capitol. You said you would be right there with them. The country and the world saw what played out at the Capitol that day. The officers coming under attack. Aides in the West Wing say you watched it unfold on television off the Oval Office. You did send out tweets, but it was more than two hours before you sent out that video message telling your supporters to go home. Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day?

Simple to answer. "You have mischaracterized what happened and I don't regret my actions because I told people to be peaceful"




DeSantis would not have needed your input.
Burdizzo
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What office did Kamala hide in that day?
Hullabaloonatic
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I mean, she was 100% at the capitol on Jan 6th.
rononeill
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Worked with an older guy: said he had a college basketball game at Madison Square Garden in college in the late 60s. Out rebounded Lou Alcindor. Manhattan played the early game; UCLA played the late game.

Not a an untrue statement, but...
rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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Hullabaloonatic said:

I mean, she was 100% at the capitol on Jan 6th.


yes, she was also on planet earth.
aggieforester05
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Her Crocodile tears over 1/6/21 are pathetic considering this skank helped bail antifa/blm rioters out of jail the prior year. She's just so intellectually dishonest that it should be shocking but it's what we've come to expect from Democrats over the last decade. Everything is a lie, everything is a spin! It works because the media is on their side, so they don't have to be worried about being called out and their voters are either too stupid to see it or are so morally/ethically bankrupt that they don't care.
Watermelon Man
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Keeping a mind closed to obvious evidence is an amazing thing to witness.


The tweet you use as evidence clearly says she left the Capitol (the building) at 11:20. She obviously was at the Capitol (as she claimed) if she left it. Sure, she left before the riot started, but she didn't say she personally fended off rioters.

The tweet also claims she was evacuated at 1:17 PM. A pipe bomb was reported to Capitol Police at 12:49 and the perimeter of the Capitol was overrun at 12:53. Harris, along with others I assume, were evacuated at 1:17. That's about half an hour later, when it was obvious that things could take a turn for the worse quite rapidly.

To keep everyone honest, here are Harris' words from a transcript

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VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS: I was at the Capitol on January 6th. I was the Vice President-Elect. I was also an acting senator. I was there. And on that day, the president of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's Capitol, to desecrate our nation's Capitol. On that day, 140 law enforcement officers were injured. And some died. And understand, the former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason.

So, Harris was obviously telling the truth.

She was at the Capitol on Jan 6. She was directly affected by the riot.

Some officers died. Officer Sicknick died on Jan 7. Video clearly Officer Sicknick being attacked by being pepper sprayed on Jan 6. Yes, Sicknick died from a stroke, not directly due to his injuries. Did his injuries and associated trauma contribute to the stroke? Experts disagree, which means some believe it was a direct result of the spray, others disagree. Regardless, he died. Two other Capitol Police officers who defended the Capitol on Jan 6 committed suicide. Officer Howard Liebengood took his own life three days after the riots. Eight days later, Officer Jeffrey Smith shot himself on his way to work. He had been on pain killers due to his injuries and killed himself after being ordered to go back to work.

The riot was, without question, a violent encounter between MAGA supporters and Capitol police. There were deaths and injuries on both sides that could have been avoided if the attack had not taken place. While Trump says he told the group to march "peacefully and patriotically," but the fact that some were breaching the outer perimeter of the Capitol 20 minutes before Trump's speach ended shows that at least some of his assembled mob did not get the message.

And Trump has definitely been indicted and impeached for his attempt to overturn the 2020 election. The riot on Jan 6 was a big part of that attempt. In fact, it is doubtful that either the impeachment or indictments would have gone anywhere without the riot.

Now, where are the blatant lies?


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LOL

Hey guys, a cop that was involved on Jan 6th died a year later from a heart attack. Cops involved did die! She's not lying!

scum liars!

texsn95
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Just another trash, thug cop. To protect and to serve, my ass.
BigOil
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Calling it a nothing burger is as ludicrous as it is calling it an insurrection and threat to democracy bogeyman.

There were clearly pockets of out of control rioting as much as there was a Sunday stroll through open doors while some cops stood by and watched.

Both sides only see the lens through which they want to see.
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Within 36 hours, five people died: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three died of natural causes, including a police officer.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-47][c][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-Massimo_2021-04-19-34][33][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-48][45][/url] Many people were injured, including 174 police officers. Four officers who responded to the attack died by suicide within seven months.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-Rwolfe-35][34][/url]

Damage caused by attackers exceeded $2.7 million

Compare that to Portland
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Bondag said:

Within 36 hours, five people died: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three died of natural causes, including a police officer.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-47][c][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-Massimo_2021-04-19-34][33][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-48][45][/url] Many people were injured, including 174 police officers. Four officers who responded to the attack died by suicide within seven months.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-Rwolfe-35][34][/url]

is this an attempt to argue she is not lying? LOLOL
Bondag
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Another stretch of the truth. Kamala did not post bail, but she encouraged others to.

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BigOil said:

Calling it a nothing burger is as ludicrous as it is calling it an insurrection and threat to democracy bogeyman.

There were clearly pockets of out of control rioting as much as there was a Sunday stroll through open doors while some cops stood by and watched.

Both sides only see the lens through which they want to see.


it was gigantic nothingburger!

Had Pelosi called out the guard like she should have, the cell phone tour of the Capitol would never have happened. That's the only thing that was a big deal that day!
Watermelon Man
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panamamyers00 said:

It's one of those Tim Walz lies. She was technically there. Not at any point in time when anything was going on, but on that date she was there.
I can't believe people actually care about J6, either at that time or now. Such a non event. I can't help but think that stuff like this ends up pushing more people to vote for Trump. Like what are we even doing talking about it nearly four years later. It's asinine.
Being technically correct is the best way to be correct.

The DNC HQ is only about 1000 yards [EDIT: in reality, it closer to 500 yards] from the Capitol. About two DC blocks. And, a suspected pipe bomb was found outside the DNC HQ and the Capitol perimeter was breached about half an hour prior to her being evacuated to an undisclosed location. Sounds as if you believed she was saying she fought off rioters with her own bare hands. (Hint: she never said such a thing)

Jan 6 was a non-event? Sure. It resulting in impeachment of a sitting President. That, in itself, makes it notable. It was part of a larger plan to overturn a fair and proper election (and, no, your not liking the outcome does not mean it wasn't fair). I doubt any American President has been so involved in overturning the Electoral College vote. That also makes it notable.

The fact that Trump is still fuming nearly four years later is just plain funny.


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So, Harris was obviously telling the truth.

I was on Kyle Field for over 30 games (as a BQ)

I was a sergeant in the USMC (as a cadet, for pay purposes only)

I was a Vietnam vet (because the above paperwork fell into the official "Vietnam Era")

I've flown an Air Force Texan II (for about 3 minutes in a simulator)

I've been shot at in the Marines (pulling targets below the berm at a firing range)

I've fallen asleep at night to the sound of distant artillery (camping at night at Wichita Mountains NWR near Ft. Sill)


All of the un-bolded statements are true. The bolded parts tell the whole truth, and give a totally different impression than the half-truths
4stringAg
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BigOil said:

Calling it a nothing burger is as ludicrous as it is calling it an insurrection and threat to democracy bogeyman.

There were clearly pockets of out of control rioting as much as there was a Sunday stroll through open doors while some cops stood by and watched.

Both sides only see the lens through which they want to see.

A large swath of the public hasn't been given the balance or perspective you talk about. We don't have media outlets willing to downplay it for what it was as just a protest that got out of hand but instead want to use it as a Reichstag fire event and a DOJ all too willing to jail the participants beyond what is standard for riots. That type of gaslighting and action naturally ends up with a "defensive reaction" for those that don't buy the insurrection narrative to blow it off as no big deal.

But in the grand scheme its way way down the list of things that concern the average American yet we spent 10 minutes of what may be the only debate talking about it because its perceived as a weakness for Trump and "favorable" to the Democrat candidate.
Logos Stick
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hey folks, Applebees is only 5 miles from the Capitol. The folks eating at Applebees on Jan 6th were AT the Capitol too! LOLOL
Bondag
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Logos Stick said:

Bondag said:

Within 36 hours, five people died: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three died of natural causes, including a police officer.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-47][c][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-Massimo_2021-04-19-34][33][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-48][45][/url] Many people were injured, including 174 police officers. Four officers who responded to the attack died by suicide within seven months.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-Rwolfe-35][34][/url]

is this an attempt to argue she is not lying? LOLOL
No. I was shocked by what she said and that she was not fact checked so I looked up the justification. There was one person killed on January 6th as stated by Trump. The rest were heart attacks or suicides and an accidental overdose that had nothing to do with the events on January 6th.
Watermelon Man
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BigOil said:

Calling it a nothing burger is as ludicrous as it is calling it an insurrection and threat to democracy bogeyman.

There were clearly pockets of out of control rioting as much as there was a Sunday stroll through open doors while some cops stood by and watched.

Both sides only see the lens through which they want to see.

The salient point is that the "pockets of out of control rioting" were there because Trump invited them there and filled them with lies of a "stollen election" (Trump's wording). Even those were not being violent were trespassing (they knew they were not supposed to be there, that a riot had occurred and the situation was still not under control). Even if some were so stupid not to realize what had occurred (a doubtful defense), it was still trespassing.

Regardless, the whole point of the "pockets of out of control rioting" was to delay the EC vote count, as part of Trump's plan to overturn the results.
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CDUB98 said:

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Simple to answer. "You have mischaracterized what happened and I don't regret my actions because I told people to be peaceful"
You're asking a lot from Trump there.
True. He'd likely already shifted to the border or cat eating by then….
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
Watermelon Man
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Bondag said:

Logos Stick said:

Bondag said:

Within 36 hours, five people died: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three died of natural causes, including a police officer.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-47][c][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-Massimo_2021-04-19-34][33][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-48][45][/url] Many people were injured, including 174 police officers. Four officers who responded to the attack died by suicide within seven months.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#cite_note-Rwolfe-35][34][/url]

is this an attempt to argue she is not lying? LOLOL
No. I was shocked by what she said and that she was not fact checked so I looked up the justification. There was one person killed on January 6th as stated by Trump. The rest were heart attacks or suicides and an accidental overdose that had nothing to do with the events on January 6th.
Do you really the heart attacks, suicides and accidental (?) overdose had nothing to do with the events of Jan6 (not to mention two strokes)?
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