How can you say such things about your dear leader Desantis.

First you post, that Desantis should be running for office not Trump.

Now your saying, Tucker should run for office not Desantis in 2028, because why... Carlson has Charisma.

OP... day drinking is hazard to the health.

Dude, that guys bad news. Again, I love tucker but he has too many blind spots. And, no more nominees with family cia backgrounds.

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Dallas82 said:

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Is this the same Tucker Carlson who had a fawning interview with Hitler apologist Darryl Cooper? The guy who blamed WWII on Churchill and said killing millions of Jews was humane because they would have starved otherwise? That Tucker Carlson?

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Hitler apologist? Thanks for proving the dudes point. Just because you're examining World War II and aren't 100% sunshine pumping the allies doesn't make you a Hitler apologist.

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Yeah. Hitler just needed the rest of Europe to work WITH him to find an acceptable "solution".

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Is he stating a fact or an opinion? It sounds like a fact. WHY Hitler was ignored are multitude.

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A fact? That Hitler and Germany could have found an "acceptable" solution to the "problem" of the "Jews" if only Churchill would have made peace is a FACT?

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Dallas82 said:

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Is this the same Tucker Carlson who had a fawning interview with Hitler apologist Darryl Cooper? The guy who blamed WWII on Churchill and said killing millions of Jews was humane because they would have starved otherwise? That Tucker Carlson?

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Hitler apologist? Thanks for proving the dudes point. Just because you're examining World War II and aren't 100% sunshine pumping the allies doesn't make you a Hitler apologist.

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Yeah. Hitler just needed the rest of Europe to work WITH him to find an acceptable "solution".

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Is he stating a fact or an opinion? It sounds like a fact. WHY Hitler was ignored are multitude.

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A fact? That Hitler and Germany could have found an "acceptable" solution to the "problem" of the "Jews" if only Churchill would have made peace is a FACT?

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Okay this is derailing fast. No. What you just said is not a fact. What the tweet said is not the same thing as you just said.

To say Hitler tried to ask the British for peace but was ignored is (presumably), a fact (I don't know for sure).

To say Hitler was RIGHTLY ignored because of XYZ is a completely different statement and not the topic of the tweet.

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Tucker Carlson should be the nominee because Desantis, despite being the most effective and successful governor in recent history, does not have this level of charisma. Also Tucker is the one man who is beloved by both the Desantis/Steve Deace constitutional conservative wing of the Republican party as well as the Trump/MAGA populist wing of the Republican party. Tucker could unite everyone.

This opening at this Tucker Live event is so great.

Our desires are totally normal.

We just want a safe place to live.

Tucker Carlson Live Opening: "They give you the feeling that all of the things you are upset about are totally fine and it has always been this way. Are you crazy? You're nuts. There have always been all these vagrants living on the sidewalk. You don't remember that? You freak. You some kind of fascist? Shut up. The second feeling they give you by design is that there is no one else in the world that agrees with you. You are just this island. It's not true. In fact the opposite is true. You are not a freak. You are not a fascist. You are not a malcontent. There is nothing wrong with you. You are not the crazy person. You are the normal person. Your desires are totally normal. You have no desire for world domination. You don't stay up late worrying about the sex lives of people in Brooklyn. You don't really want to know those details. They don't feel that way at all about you. They stay up late worrying about somewhere in some small town maybe in Alabama or Arizona there is somebody who disagrees with them. They want to control you on the basis of that because it is not politics of course it is a religion for them."

The way Tucker connects with the crowd is absolutely amazing. When this country actually hears what Tucker has to say instead of the lies the Democrat media has told them about him, he could win the presidency. Tucker's opening monologues during 2022 on Fox News were absolutely amazing. It is time for the whole country to hear that message.

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Nope. Tucker is an entertainer. He has an audience and he plays to that audience only. I might agree with his politics, but having the same political beliefs does not remotely make a person qualified to serve in the highest office. That being said, he certainly isn't worse than our current nominee. We need to steer clear of these cults of personality.

We need a completely revamp of nominees for the 2028 GOP ticket, but I absolutely think Desantis is a far far superior option for 2028.

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You're caught up in pedigree. What are the actual qualifications to be US president?

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There aren't any other than being 35 and a US citizen. But if we are just going to elect folks that only meet that criterium and maybe are peoples favorite talk show host, then I guess we can expect to get what we vote for (and have). I would hope we are significantly more discerning about who we elect to such an important office. Why do we look for certain skill sets for the CEO's of major corporations? Probably because there are KSA's that are crucial to the success of that role. Saying the right things we like to hear vs running the most powerful nation on the planet are vastly different things

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Apologist:

someone who speaks or writes in defense of someone or something that is typically controversial, unpopular, or subject to criticism


Calling Churchill the biggest villain of WW2 is by definition being a Hitler apologist.

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Absolutely agree. How anyone could defend that is beyond me....but then not surprising in our current political climate.

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Apologist:

someone who speaks or writes in defense of someone or something that is typically controversial, unpopular, or subject to criticism


Calling Churchill the biggest villain of WW2 is by definition being a Hitler apologist.

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Okay look. I just have to point out that this is just wrong. You posted the definition of something and then didn't even follow your own definition.

Calling Churchill "the biggest villain of WW2" is NOT by definition a Hitler apologist because it is not a statement defending Hitler. It is a statement criticizing Churchill.

Saying that the Nazis had no choice but to kill the people in the camps quickly because they didn't have enough food to feed them is also by definition being a Hitler apologist.

By the way, I have no problem with Tucker Carlson interviewing him. That's what journalist do. I've seen staff nuke much smaller than this one.

The good news is we have time to sort out the 2028 primary. And…it could just be that Trump endorses VP Vance which might give him a big leg up. But who knows?

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i'll admit it would be funny to watch fox news debase themselves by having to shill for candidate tucker after firing him for the $800 million settlement he saddled them with, but even the republican base isn't that stupid

...or are they?

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No matter how stupid I am, I sleep peacefully know I'm infinitely smarter than you!

So you dug a hole and now you were digging deeper.

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Calling Churchill "the biggest villain of WW2" is NOT by definition a Hitler apologist because it is not a statement defending Hitler. It is a statement criticizing Churchill.

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By saying Churchill was the biggest villain in World War II, he is taking that title away from Hitler. Ergo, Hitler apologist.

If one were to say that James was the most evil apostle, that is being a Judas apologist.

Honestly, your argument here is chemically bad.

If Trump wins a 2024, Vance is a shoe-in for the 2028 nomination.

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So you dug a hole and now you were digging deeper.

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Calling Churchill "the biggest villain of WW2" is NOT by definition a Hitler apologist because it is not a statement defending Hitler. It is a statement criticizing Churchill.

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By saying Churchill was the biggest villain in World War II, he is taking that title away from Hitler. Ergo, Hitler apologist.

If one were to say that James was the most evil apostle, that is being a Judas apologist.

Honestly, your argument here is chemically bad.

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Not my fault you can't follow your own definitions. Not going to chase your moving of the goalposts. Good day.

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Apologist:

someone who speaks or writes in defense of someone or something that is typically controversial, unpopular, or subject to criticism


Calling Churchill the biggest villain of WW2 is by definition being a Hitler apologist.

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Okay look. I just have to point out that this is just wrong. You posted the definition of something and then didn't even follow your own definition.

Calling Churchill "the biggest villain of WW2" is NOT by definition a Hitler apologist because it is not a statement defending Hitler. It is a statement criticizing Churchill.

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Why isn't Hitler, the guy who started the shooting, the biggest villain? Or even Stalin?

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Im Gipper said:

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Apologist:

someone who speaks or writes in defense of someone or something that is typically controversial, unpopular, or subject to criticism


Calling Churchill the biggest villain of WW2 is by definition being a Hitler apologist.

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Okay look. I just have to point out that this is just wrong. You posted the definition of something and then didn't even follow your own definition.

Calling Churchill "the biggest villain of WW2" is NOT by definition a Hitler apologist because it is not a statement defending Hitler. It is a statement criticizing Churchill.

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Why isn't Hitler, the guy who started the shooting, the biggest villain? Or even Stalin?

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I don't know. I would absolutely say it's Hitler with Stalin close behind. The point is that a statement criticizing Churchill does not automatically mean you are defending Hitler.

Does criticizing Churchill mean you're also an apologist for the Japanese empire?

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Is this the same Tucker Carlson who had a fawning interview with Hitler apologist Darryl Cooper? The guy who blamed WWII on Churchill and said killing millions of Jews was humane because they would have starved otherwise? That Tucker Carlson?

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Hitler apologist? Thanks for proving the dudes point. Just because you're examining World War II and aren't 100% sunshine pumping the allies doesn't make you a Hitler apologist.

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Yeah. Hitler just needed the rest of Europe to work WITH him to find an acceptable "solution".

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Is he stating a fact or an opinion? It sounds like a fact. WHY Hitler was ignored are multitude.

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A fact? That Hitler and Germany could have found an "acceptable" solution to the "problem" of the "Jews" if only Churchill would have made peace is a FACT?

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Okay this is derailing fast. No. What you just said is not a fact. What the tweet said is not the same thing as you just said.

To say Hitler tried to ask the British for peace but was ignored is (presumably), a fact (I don't know for sure).

To say Hitler was RIGHTLY ignored because of XYZ is a completely different statement and not the topic of the tweet.

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No one would WORD it like that unless they accepted as a "FACT" that there is "A JEWISH PROBLEM". On top of that, it puts the blame over to Churchill, framing it as his fault for not making peace which FORCED Hitler to kill Jews.

Leave aside all the crap and timelines he got wrong. Like the fact that France already had been invaded before Churchill was PM.

I'd runoff too if I made such a comical argument.

I really can't believe that you were claiming he's not a Hitler apologist because he said someone was a bigger villain than Hitler.

I defended the guy after first watching the interview. I thought it was weird how he stayed so silent about what Germany did specifically to Jews but I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I didn't take his statement on POWs dying because they lacked resources as him defending the Holocaust.

Then I read that thread he posted and specifically that screen shot I posted. I got really suspicious and looked more into him. He seems pretty obvious to be someone with a bad ideology.

Well, calling him the biggest villain is absolving those two of that title. It's dumb and not based on facts or reality. It's clickbait *****

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i'll admit it would be funny to watch fox news debase themselves by having to shill for candidate tucker after firing him for the $800 million settlement he saddled them with, but even the republican base isn't that stupid

...or are they?

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oof

Navy air traffic control was the biggest villain at Peal Harbor

Not a Japanese apologist though.

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I'd love to say DeSantis will be the candidate for 2028 for the GOP, but I'm fully prepared for the candidate we run with for the GOP to be Donald Trump, Jr.

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From the people that said "no more dynasties".

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I'd love to say DeSantis will be the candidate for 2028 for the GOP, but I'm fully prepared for the candidate we run with for the GOP to be Donald Trump, Jr.

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From the people that said "no more dynasties".

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it's (D)ifferen(T)

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Navy air traffic control was the biggest villain at Peal Harbor

Not a Japanese apologist though.

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Really it was the oxygen that was fuel for the explosions and fire.

Tucker... wow. Dude is going off the rails. He has a Hitler apologist on his show who spouts all sorts of ridiculous stuff like "they gassed the Jews because they couldn't feed them". Tucker sits there and doesn't push back AT ALL.

Then he follows that up with this quote:

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Later, he (Tucker) endorsed Cooper's claims. "People can certainly take issue with any factual claims you're making. I assume they're all right," Carlson said. "They're consistent with what I think I know to be true."

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https://www.jta.org/2024/09/04/united-states/on-x-tucker-carlson-hosts-historian-who-says-the-nazis-didnt-mean-for-the-holocaust-to-happen

Tucker said on the Joe Rogan podcast the believes that "alien" sightings are merely another life form here on Earth that we haven't figured out, possibly they are angels. OK.

He's definitely not presidential material. More like headed the direction of Alex Jones. He'll get some stuff right some of the time, but you really have to wade through the crap to get there. Much like Jones, I doubt he believes half the stuff he says... it's just too dumb.

Okay, Mrs. Carlson.

Thinking we Dodged a bullet on this whole "Tucker for President in 2028!" Thing. His Iran takes are epically bad

Whew!


As for Cooper:

Guys, maybe their pro-Iran stances and bizarro WWII revisionist history isn’t some 3d chess for a new restrained foreign policy and is just basic self-loathing and anti-Americanism. pic.twitter.com/V1426tZYmg

— Kyle Shideler (@ShidelerK) June 14, 2025

Tucker has thoroughly discredited himself of late.

Actually there is a large faction of people who think Israeli interests are not American interests. I like what Tucker is standing up for re: Iran.

Who is going to own the libs the most?

It would be a better world if less people took political entertainers seriously

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Sure, let's run a guy who is one step away from being full on Q-Anon.

That will beat the Democrats for sure.

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So have you ever been to a Q-Anon meeting, no anyone that has, or did you just see Q-Anon written on the bathroom wall? I am not for Tucker running for president but your comment shows you will believe anything.

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Sure, let's run a guy who is one step away from being full on Q-Anon.

That will beat the Democrats for sure.

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So have you ever been to a Q-Anon meeting, no anyone that has, or did you just see Q-Anon written on the bathroom wall? I am not for Tucker running for president but your comment shows you will believe anything.

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I mostly like Tucker when he investigates deeply disturbing things going on in the world order, but he's a little too kooky to run and be successful as a presidential candidate.

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Sure, let's run a guy who is one step away from being full on Q-Anon.

That will beat the Democrats for sure.

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So have you ever been to a Q-Anon meeting, no anyone that has, or did you just see Q-Anon written on the bathroom wall? I am not for Tucker running for president but your comment shows you will believe anything.

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good point.

tucker is nowhere near as loony as those Q types.

he is just trying to make money, they are true cookoos. (Filter a bird name? Really?)