Nanomachines son said:

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Casey Means was a Stanford-educated surgeon. Her brother Calley was a lobbyist for pharma and the food industry. Both quit their jobs in horror when they realized how many people were being killed by the systems they participated in. This is an amazing story.

(0:54) Who Are… pic.twitter.com/1oIVLvPlAv

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) August 16, 2024

I've spoken here many times about endocrine disrupters and how almost everything about modern life is poisoning us from the food, to plastics, to pesticides, and more.

The fact that doctors are not required to learn about nutrition in medical school was the most insane part of this interview. How is that possible when 90% of health and fitness is nutrition related? Almost all chronic diseases can be solved or significantly improved with a solid meat protein based diet with minimal to no processed foods and fresh vegetables/fruits. This is why I began to heavily question doctors even prior to Covid. Their nutrition knowledge was always horrible and they never understood how any of it affected any disease. The solution was always more drugs (e.g. now with Ozempic) that do nothing to solve the underlying causes.

You should watch this video. We absolutely need leadership who can and will take the hard positions necessary to fix this problem.

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Because the vast majority of medical schools recieve a very high percentage of funding from pharmaceuticals.

Healthy people don't generate money for pharma, and they don't generate money for large food corps either. Sick people do.

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A ton of work certainly needs to be done on a federal level. In particular with our children who receive food stamps. Childhood obesity is rapidly increasing and it is mostly in the poor who are getting pure junk food with tax dollars.

I don't know where that doc trained but I sure as heck learned nutrition in medical school. Of course we had even more training in it during pediatric residency as it is such an integral part of growth and development. (Med school in San Antonio, residency at TCH)

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In my 60+ years of experience as a patient and as a father of three grown children, I don't ever recall, not once, having a doctor bring up the topic of nutrition. The docs may have had training, but it doesn't seem to have been integrated into their practice.

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Did you ever ask?

I'm sure many non-pediatric doctors get tired of trying to get adults to change behavior and just give up as a waste of time. That is one of the primary reasons I chose to NOT treat adults, they are a pain and most of their diseases are self inflicted by behaviors they refuse to change.

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At this point, a (traditional) doctor is one of the last people I would ask about nutrition. I'm more of an inverted food pyramid guy.

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Bid Pharma has done more harm than Big Tobacco.

Change my mind.

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Interestingly a lot of the scientists that were at Big Tobacco that found themselves without employment after the feds won all of those lawsuits against Big Tobacco made their way into the food industry.

Addiction is addiction, and food companies want you addicted to their products even more than tobacco companies did.

Dr. Means was on the Michael Berry show in Houston several months back when I happened to catch the interview. Very fascinating information, and I pre-ordered his book as soon as I got home after listening to it.

Pharmaceuticals and the food industry are two of the absolute worst in terms of doing harm.

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I feel like I eat a very healthy diet consisting largely of red meat, lots of eggs, chicken, veggies, and very little sugar. Pretty rare I "treat myself".

Pretty much my only dietary concern is WATER. You either have to drink water that has been stored in plastic bottles or containers, likely in the heat for extended periods of time during transport/storage, or tap water with who knows how much flouride or other chemicals in it. Would I rather have brain fog and a lower IQ, or expose myself to significant microplastics and endocrine disruptors? Pretty big bummer that these are the choices for the vast majority.

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Most tapwater has very little in terms of chemicals. The vast majority is the small amount of chlorine used to sanitze it and things like sodium bisulfite to trim the pH to proper levels. The last several potable water plants I have built or expanded don't have flouride injection.

And if you are that concerned, plenty of really good and really affordable filtration systems on the market. Aquasana is a good brand to look at - I have their whole house filtration system plus a water softener on my house. Between that and the carbon filter in the fridge, water is damn good out of the tap.

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William Foster said:

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I feel like I eat a very healthy diet consisting largely of red meat, lots of eggs, chicken, veggies, and very little sugar. Pretty rare I "treat myself".

Pretty much my only dietary concern is WATER. You either have to drink water that has been stored in plastic bottles or containers, likely in the heat for extended periods of time during transport/storage, or tap water with who knows how much flouride or other chemicals in it. Would I rather have brain fog and a lower IQ, or expose myself to significant microplastics and endocrine disruptors? Pretty big bummer that these are the choices for the vast majority.

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Most tapwater has very little in terms of chemicals. The vast majority is the small amount of chlorine used to sanitze it and things like sodium bisulfite to trim the pH to proper levels. The last several potable water plants I have built or expanded don't have flouride injection.

And if you are that concerned, plenty of really good and really affordable filtration systems on the market. Aquasana is a good brand to look at - I have their whole house filtration system plus a water softener on my house. Between that and the carbon filter in the fridge, water is damn good out of the tap.

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Nice, we had a water softener and reverse osmosis deal installed when we bought our house, but I was under the impression that flouride wasn't filtered out. nice to know they're no longer injecting it.

Many if not most foods now carry this (or similar) phrase under the ingredients:

"Contains a bioengineered food ingredient."

These are also known as genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

In early May I stopped buying food with this stuff in it and avoid it where I can at restaurants. The result: I've lost 29 lbs, sleep better, think more clearly, and I have zero sugar crashes.

Try it for yourself.

Dr Means was on Literally pod cast recently as well and it is worth a listen. Since then, about a month ago, we've been using an app called Yuka to scan food items. It is shockingly difficult to cut "non food" ingredients out of your food.

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Many if not most foods now carry this (or similar) phrase under the ingredients:

"Contains a bioengineered food ingredient."

These are also known as genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

In early May I stopped buying food with this stuff in it and avoid it where I can at restaurants. The result: I've lost 29 lbs, sleep better, think more clearly, and I have zero sugar crashes.

Try it for yourself.

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You are more than likely losing weight because you are diligent about food choices, not because of GMO's. GMO's are basically the new boogeyman.

Just started listening to this. I can tell you first hand that TAMU medical school (I'm a director for Pediatrics as a part time gig) is nothing like the training she described. They are big on holistic medicine, nutrition, diet, and primary care in general.

Yeah, GMO's aren't really anything to get upset about IMO. We have been genetically modifying plants since we began rasing crops 300,000 years ago.

Nanomachines son said:

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Casey Means was a Stanford-educated surgeon. Her brother Calley was a lobbyist for pharma and the food industry. Both quit their jobs in horror when they realized how many people were being killed by the systems they participated in. This is an amazing story.

(0:54) Who Are… pic.twitter.com/1oIVLvPlAv

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) August 16, 2024

I've spoken here many times about endocrine disrupters and how almost everything about modern life is poisoning us from the food, to plastics, to pesticides, and more.

The fact that doctors are not required to learn about nutrition in medical school was the most insane part of this interview. How is that possible when 90% of health and fitness is nutrition related? Almost all chronic diseases can be solved or significantly improved with a solid meat protein based diet with minimal to no processed foods and fresh vegetables/fruits. This is why I began to heavily question doctors even prior to Covid. Their nutrition knowledge was always horrible and they never understood how any of it affected any disease. The solution was always more drugs (e.g. now with Ozempic) that do nothing to solve the underlying causes.

You should watch this video. We absolutely need leadership who can and will take the hard positions necessary to fix this problem.

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This is one of the biggest tragedies in America, the lack of education on nutrition and lack of integrated approach to fighting disease/sickness.

I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis at 29. This autoimmune disease literally came out of nowhere. No family history of gut issues. My wife and I worked out 3-4 times a week, we love adventure type outings, we played tons of intramural type sports after work. Then my life changes when the blood and lack of bowel control shows up.

I was recommend at least 4-5 different GI's in Houston. None of them informed on how big the impact of nutrition was on my symptoms. I'm not saying clean eating could heal more or that bad eating was the culprit. They were quick to put my on biologic drugs and steroids. I was in a flare for 3 years, one of the GI's had me on a nasty steroid prednisone for 14 months. Pretty much have terrible bone decay now. I was constantly fighting with insurance to get a pre approval every 5-6 weeks to get my biologic infusion (~$35k each dose before insurance). In a matter of months I went from 160lbs average athletic build to 110 lbs skin and bones. I was in a dark place and didn't think living with this condition was worth it.

It wasn't until I found Dr Hyman and his podcast on functional holistic medicine that I started improving. I had to begin advocating for myself instead of blindly trusting the system that I believed would educate doctors and get the best results for disease. My faith in the system is no longer there. I spent almost $20k out of pocket with a functional medicine doctor because of course insurance doesn't cover those visits. We found a plan that incorporated conventional medicine, a nutritional plan, stress relief to get me into remission. I pretty much avoid all processed foods, gluten and diary free unless its a clean bread like sourdough or milk from a farm. Heck I spent 3 months in Italy last summer and ate all the pasta, wine, gelato I could had no issues at all. After 4 colonoscopies in 5 years I'm blessed to be in remission.

The ingredients that are allowed in the foods in the states is horrifying. We spend alot on clean groceries, buy our meat from a farm because I never want to put my children at risk sometime in the future. It's a shame that its expensive to eat clean/healthy in the US.

Advocate for yourself always, traditional medicine is good up to a certain point. I'm a firm believer in wholistic functional medicine now.

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Many if not most foods now carry this (or similar) phrase under the ingredients:

"Contains a bioengineered food ingredient."

These are also known as genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

In early May I stopped buying food with this stuff in it and avoid it where I can at restaurants. The result: I've lost 29 lbs, sleep better, think more clearly, and I have zero sugar crashes.

Try it for yourself.

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You are more than likely losing weight because you are diligent about food choices, not because of GMO's. GMO's are basically the new boogeyman.

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I suppose we need to wait 40 years for the studies to come out pointing out the obvious falsity of this statement.

I agree completely with Hep B vaccine in neonates. Only helpful if the mom's status is negative or unknown- same with eye gel for Chlamydia. I think Hep B should be on the teen schedule with HPV vaccine.

Vitamin K (which she does not mention) is foolish to not give. No reason to risk a brain bleed in your baby with such an easy preventative.

Dr Hyman is pretty interesting and I would enroll in his service if I had an autoimmune disease. Looking over the tests he runs I think there is significant potential to be caught chasing abnormal labs that often end up being meaningless. He doesn't provide data on how many "false positives" he gets from his battery of tests.

He was on Literally podcast as well and it was interesting.

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Teslag said:

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AgCat93 said:

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Many if not most foods now carry this (or similar) phrase under the ingredients:

"Contains a bioengineered food ingredient."

These are also known as genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

In early May I stopped buying food with this stuff in it and avoid it where I can at restaurants. The result: I've lost 29 lbs, sleep better, think more clearly, and I have zero sugar crashes.

Try it for yourself.

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You are more than likely losing weight because you are diligent about food choices, not because of GMO's. GMO's are basically the new boogeyman.

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I suppose we need to wait 40 years for the studies to come out pointing out the obvious falsity of this statement.

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Do you know something that farmers like CanyonAg and others here don't?

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Just started listening to this. I can tell you first hand that TAMU medical school (I'm a director for Pediatrics as a part time gig) is nothing like the training she described. They are big on holistic medicine, nutrition, diet, and primary care in general.

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That's wonderful to hear. Hope they start advertising themselves as such so we can find them.

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AgCat93 said:

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Many if not most foods now carry this (or similar) phrase under the ingredients:

"Contains a bioengineered food ingredient."

These are also known as genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

In early May I stopped buying food with this stuff in it and avoid it where I can at restaurants. The result: I've lost 29 lbs, sleep better, think more clearly, and I have zero sugar crashes.

Try it for yourself.

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You are more than likely losing weight because you are diligent about food choices, not because of GMO's. GMO's are basically the new boogeyman.

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I suppose we need to wait 40 years for the studies to come out pointing out the obvious falsity of this statement.

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Do you know something that farmers like CanyonAg and others here don't?

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Seems quite obvious our food is poison to anybody not being intentionally obtuse.

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Dr Hyman is pretty interesting and I would enroll in his service if I had an autoimmune disease. Looking over the tests he runs I think there is significant potential to be caught chasing abnormal labs that often end up being meaningless. He doesn't provide data on how many "false positives" he gets from his battery of tests.

He was on Literally podcast as well and it was interesting.

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I agree with you there were many labs I had to get I dont think were necessary. The total cost of all the labs was around $12k. One lab (I think genetic) showed I naturally didn't produce some sort of protein or enzyme so I was on a brown seaweed supplement. Honestly I don't think it helped or did anything. Stopped ordering the supplement.

But I was desperate to get my symptoms to subside. I wanted some sort of relief that felt like improvement. For three years I was waking up at least 5 times a night for bowel movements. All those compounded days of terrible slept makes you go insane. I was on a waitlist for his practice in Boston for over a year until I got an appointment. So my headspace was to try anything and everything at all cost.

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A ton of work certainly needs to be done on a federal level. In particular with our children who receive food stamps. Childhood obesity is rapidly increasing and it is mostly in the poor who are getting pure junk food with tax dollars.

I don't know where that doc trained but I sure as heck learned nutrition in medical school. Of course we had even more training in it during pediatric residency as it is such an integral part of growth and development. (Med school in San Antonio, residency at TCH)

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In my 60+ years of experience as a patient and as a father of three grown children, I don't ever recall, not once, having a doctor bring up the topic of nutrition. The docs may have had training, but it doesn't seem to have been integrated into their practice.

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Again this is doc dependent. When I put on weight my doctor went over various diets and pushed high protein. He also suggested several books and documentaries for me to watch as well. He's very into fitness and holistic health.

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This is why I trust jacked doctors the most. If I can see you lift weights and are bigger than the average person muscular wise, I'm going to listen to you on nutrition because I am these things as well. I always find it amazing when I see out of shape doctors. If your methods are so great then why aren't you following them yourself or why aren't they working for you?

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Because doctors are human as well and have the same stress and poor stress response as other humans. They overeat, drink too much, don't exercise due to fatigue, etc etc. A significant number also smoke which is always shocking to me.

Doctors can afford more than most so not being able to afford good food and access to exercise is not an excuse, but they also tend to have longer hours and higher day-to-day stress than the average person.

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Unfortunately presentation matters and if you're a doctor who is fat, I'm simply never going to listen to ever about advice about health and assume you're someone who has zero practical knowledge. It's comparable to the engineer vs mechanic about repairing an engine. I'm not going to listen to the engineer, I'll listen to the mechanic. It's obviously better for the engineer to have mechanic skills than just someone who is a mechanic, but practical knowledge is always better long term.

agracer said:

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Bid Pharma has done more harm than Big Tobacco.

Change my mind.

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Big agriculture is just as bad.

I work in oil and gas and unfortunately I can say that we aren't any better but I don't know how to fix this part because all of modern civilization relies on petroleum products, all of which are endocrine disrupters, especially plastics.

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The challenge is being able to afford the foods that they recommend. Everything is 30%-50% or more expensive than stuff I would normally get.

For instance, I switched from regular whole fat milk to whole milk from A2 which is like $6 for a half gallon.

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I'm jut starting the podcast so this might be premature but I have done quite a bit if shifting in my diet that has paid dividends as I approached 50yrs old that I used in and right after college.

Very little dairy
Tons and tons of eggs
Lots of ground beef and rice
Lots of grilled chicken
Skirt steak - Mexican meat market in The Colony (La Supra, I think?) has great pre-marinated options that are not that expensive and the family loves them (tacos, bowls, an the main course)
Fruit - mainly cuties and bananas as a snack or before the gym
Jerky as a snack alternative
AG1 (powdered greens added to shakes with a little protein powder after the gym).
Kimchi from Costco - don't know why, but damn I like it. Tastes like jalapeno cabbage. Get a big tub for under $10.

For a "cheat" PP&J or honey on sourdough.

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Dairy isn't bad either, that's also a false aspect. Milk and cheeses are very good for you. The Mongols excelled far above their peers because of dairy and meat. The Yamnaya developing lactose resistance rather than intolerance allowed them to take over Europe as the original Steppe Horse warriors around 4000 BC. Dairy is not an issue and it's a very easy way to consume a lot of protein. This of course only applies to people who don't have issues with lactose.

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I feel like I eat a very healthy diet consisting largely of red meat, lots of eggs, chicken, veggies, and very little sugar. Pretty rare I "treat myself".

Pretty much my only dietary concern is WATER. You either have to drink water that has been stored in plastic bottles or containers, likely in the heat for extended periods of time during transport/storage, or tap water with who knows how much flouride or other chemicals in it. Would I rather have brain fog and a lower IQ, or expose myself to significant microplastics and endocrine disruptors? Pretty big bummer that these are the choices for the vast majority.

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Filtered tap water or glass bottled water. The former can be accomplished with a filter in your fridge or some sort of activated carbon filter on your house. The latter you just buy glass bottled water.

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A ton of work certainly needs to be done on a federal level. In particular with our children who receive food stamps. Childhood obesity is rapidly increasing and it is mostly in the poor who are getting pure junk food with tax dollars.

I don't know where that doc trained but I sure as heck learned nutrition in medical school. Of course we had even more training in it during pediatric residency as it is such an integral part of growth and development. (Med school in San Antonio, residency at TCH)

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In my 60+ years of experience as a patient and as a father of three grown children, I don't ever recall, not once, having a doctor bring up the topic of nutrition. The docs may have had training, but it doesn't seem to have been integrated into their practice.

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Did you ever ask?

I'm sure many non-pediatric doctors get tired of trying to get adults to change behavior and just give up as a waste of time. That is one of the primary reasons I chose to NOT treat adults, they are a pain and most of their diseases are self inflicted by behaviors they refuse to change.

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At this point, a (traditional) doctor is one of the last people I would ask about nutrition. I'm more of an inverted food pyramid guy.

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If I want nutrition advice I go to bodybuilders who have used their bodies as petri dishes. They always have far better knowledge.

Pookers said:

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Teslag said:

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AgCat93 said:

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Many if not most foods now carry this (or similar) phrase under the ingredients:

"Contains a bioengineered food ingredient."

These are also known as genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

In early May I stopped buying food with this stuff in it and avoid it where I can at restaurants. The result: I've lost 29 lbs, sleep better, think more clearly, and I have zero sugar crashes.

Try it for yourself.

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You are more than likely losing weight because you are diligent about food choices, not because of GMO's. GMO's are basically the new boogeyman.

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I suppose we need to wait 40 years for the studies to come out pointing out the obvious falsity of this statement.

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No, we don't. Because like i said above, we have been genetically modifying plants since humanoids began farming.

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I feel like I eat a very healthy diet consisting largely of red meat, lots of eggs, chicken, veggies, and very little sugar. Pretty rare I "treat myself".

Pretty much my only dietary concern is WATER. You either have to drink water that has been stored in plastic bottles or containers, likely in the heat for extended periods of time during transport/storage, or tap water with who knows how much flouride or other chemicals in it. Would I rather have brain fog and a lower IQ, or expose myself to significant microplastics and endocrine disruptors? Pretty big bummer that these are the choices for the vast majority.

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Most tapwater has very little in terms of chemicals. The vast majority is the small amount of chlorine used to sanitze it and things like sodium bisulfite to trim the pH to proper levels. The last several potable water plants I have built or expanded don't have flouride injection.

And if you are that concerned, plenty of really good and really affordable filtration systems on the market. Aquasana is a good brand to look at - I have their whole house filtration system plus a water softener on my house. Between that and the carbon filter in the fridge, water is damn good out of the tap.

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This is false. Tap water contains a lot of endocrine disrupter chemicals because the EPA does not require these to be tested since they have said they are not harmful to humans. It absolutely is not as good as it used to be because there is wildly more of these chemicals than we used to have.

schmellba99 said:

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Pookers said:

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Teslag said:

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AgCat93 said:

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Many if not most foods now carry this (or similar) phrase under the ingredients:

"Contains a bioengineered food ingredient."

These are also known as genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

In early May I stopped buying food with this stuff in it and avoid it where I can at restaurants. The result: I've lost 29 lbs, sleep better, think more clearly, and I have zero sugar crashes.

Try it for yourself.

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You are more than likely losing weight because you are diligent about food choices, not because of GMO's. GMO's are basically the new boogeyman.

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I suppose we need to wait 40 years for the studies to come out pointing out the obvious falsity of this statement.

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No, we don't. Because like i said above, we have been genetically modifying plants since humanoids began farming.

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Selective breeding has been happening for ages. It is far different than genetic modification which is being discussed here.

Nanomachines son said:

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schmellba99 said:

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William Foster said:

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I feel like I eat a very healthy diet consisting largely of red meat, lots of eggs, chicken, veggies, and very little sugar. Pretty rare I "treat myself".

Pretty much my only dietary concern is WATER. You either have to drink water that has been stored in plastic bottles or containers, likely in the heat for extended periods of time during transport/storage, or tap water with who knows how much flouride or other chemicals in it. Would I rather have brain fog and a lower IQ, or expose myself to significant microplastics and endocrine disruptors? Pretty big bummer that these are the choices for the vast majority.

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Most tapwater has very little in terms of chemicals. The vast majority is the small amount of chlorine used to sanitze it and things like sodium bisulfite to trim the pH to proper levels. The last several potable water plants I have built or expanded don't have flouride injection.

And if you are that concerned, plenty of really good and really affordable filtration systems on the market. Aquasana is a good brand to look at - I have their whole house filtration system plus a water softener on my house. Between that and the carbon filter in the fridge, water is damn good out of the tap.

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This is false. Tap water contains a lot of endocrine disrupter chemicals because the EPA does not require these to be tested since they have said they are not harmful to humans. It absolutely is not as good as it used to be because there is wildly more of these chemicals than we used to have.

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We have an RO system at home due to this. Not cheap though.

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Nanomachines son said:

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schmellba99 said:

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William Foster said:

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I feel like I eat a very healthy diet consisting largely of red meat, lots of eggs, chicken, veggies, and very little sugar. Pretty rare I "treat myself".

Pretty much my only dietary concern is WATER. You either have to drink water that has been stored in plastic bottles or containers, likely in the heat for extended periods of time during transport/storage, or tap water with who knows how much flouride or other chemicals in it. Would I rather have brain fog and a lower IQ, or expose myself to significant microplastics and endocrine disruptors? Pretty big bummer that these are the choices for the vast majority.

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Most tapwater has very little in terms of chemicals. The vast majority is the small amount of chlorine used to sanitze it and things like sodium bisulfite to trim the pH to proper levels. The last several potable water plants I have built or expanded don't have flouride injection.

And if you are that concerned, plenty of really good and really affordable filtration systems on the market. Aquasana is a good brand to look at - I have their whole house filtration system plus a water softener on my house. Between that and the carbon filter in the fridge, water is damn good out of the tap.

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This is false. Tap water contains a lot of endocrine disrupter chemicals because the EPA does not require these to be tested since they have said they are not harmful to humans. It absolutely is not as good as it used to be because there is wildly more of these chemicals than we used to have.

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We have an RO system at home due to this. Not cheap though.

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Yeah this is also a very good idea if you can afford it.

Sorry for spam just commenting when I hear stuff between patients.

It really sounds like this doc just got into a specialty she doesn't like. She would likely be an excellent primary care physician but that would also require her to throw away her years of surgical training and do another 3 years of training (maybe 2 depending on her internship).

She is right about the medical community crapping on primary care. I had advisers questioning my choice of specialty as I was a high performing medical student and a leader in my class. They questioned why I wouldn't go into a more profitable and prestigious field instead of the "poor" pediatrician.

Pookers said:

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Teslag said:

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Pookers said:

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Teslag said:

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AgCat93 said:

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Many if not most foods now carry this (or similar) phrase under the ingredients:

"Contains a bioengineered food ingredient."

These are also known as genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

In early May I stopped buying food with this stuff in it and avoid it where I can at restaurants. The result: I've lost 29 lbs, sleep better, think more clearly, and I have zero sugar crashes.

Try it for yourself.

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You are more than likely losing weight because you are diligent about food choices, not because of GMO's. GMO's are basically the new boogeyman.

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I suppose we need to wait 40 years for the studies to come out pointing out the obvious falsity of this statement.

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Do you know something that farmers like CanyonAg and others here don't?

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Seems quite obvious our food is poison to anybody not being intentionally obtuse.

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Is that why we are living longer with less disease than in human history? Do you think our ancestors would trade our food for theirs? Would you?

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Sorry for spam just commenting when I hear stuff between patients.

It really sounds like this doc just got into a specialty she doesn't like. She would likely be an excellent primary care physician but that would also require her to throw away her years of surgical training and do another 3 years of training (maybe 2 depending on her internship).

She is right about the medical community crapping on primary care. I had advisers questioning my choice of specialty as I was a high performing medical student and a leader in my class. They questioned why I wouldn't go into a more profitable and prestigious field instead of the "poor" pediatrician.

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If I could find a primary care physician that had specialized into nutrition that would be an absolute godsend. A guy that does full on genetic analyses and tailors diets according to metabolic and genetic issues as well as long term fitness goals would be huge.

Why nutrition is not an explicitly specialty for doctors has always been kind of nuts to me given how much it affects diseases and is affected by genetics.

Nanomachines son said:

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schmellba99 said:

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William Foster said:

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I feel like I eat a very healthy diet consisting largely of red meat, lots of eggs, chicken, veggies, and very little sugar. Pretty rare I "treat myself".

Pretty much my only dietary concern is WATER. You either have to drink water that has been stored in plastic bottles or containers, likely in the heat for extended periods of time during transport/storage, or tap water with who knows how much flouride or other chemicals in it. Would I rather have brain fog and a lower IQ, or expose myself to significant microplastics and endocrine disruptors? Pretty big bummer that these are the choices for the vast majority.

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Most tapwater has very little in terms of chemicals. The vast majority is the small amount of chlorine used to sanitze it and things like sodium bisulfite to trim the pH to proper levels. The last several potable water plants I have built or expanded don't have flouride injection.

And if you are that concerned, plenty of really good and really affordable filtration systems on the market. Aquasana is a good brand to look at - I have their whole house filtration system plus a water softener on my house. Between that and the carbon filter in the fridge, water is damn good out of the tap.

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This is false. Tap water contains a lot of endocrine disrupter chemicals because the EPA does not require these to be tested since they have said they are not harmful to humans. It absolutely is not as good as it used to be because there is wildly more of these chemicals than we used to have.

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Ok.

I'm not in the industry or anything, so I probably don't know much.

I don't think the evidence supports their theory about early puberty being caused by insectides. Looking world-wide there is not a large difference between countries using them vs not using them.

Age of puberty in girls the world over becoming lower (news-medical.net)

• In Europe: 9.8 to 10.8 years
• In the US: 8.8 to 10.3 years
• In Africa: 10.1 to 13.2 years
• In Asia: 8.9 to 11.5 years
• In the Middle East: 9.7 to 10.3 years

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A ton of work certainly needs to be done on a federal level. In particular with our children who receive food stamps. Childhood obesity is rapidly increasing and it is mostly in the poor who are getting pure junk food with tax dollars.

I don't know where that doc trained but I sure as heck learned nutrition in medical school. Of course we had even more training in it during pediatric residency as it is such an integral part of growth and development. (Med school in San Antonio, residency at TCH)

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In my 60+ years of experience as a patient and as a father of three grown children, I don't ever recall, not once, having a doctor bring up the topic of nutrition. The docs may have had training, but it doesn't seem to have been integrated into their practice.

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Again this is doc dependent. When I put on weight my doctor went over various diets and pushed high protein. He also suggested several books and documentaries for me to watch as well. He's very into fitness and holistic health.

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This is why I trust jacked doctors the most. If I can see you lift weights and are bigger than the average person muscular wise, I'm going to listen to you on nutrition because I am these things as well. I always find it amazing when I see out of shape doctors. If your methods are so great then why aren't you following them yourself or why aren't they working for you?

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Because doctors are human as well and have the same stress and poor stress response as other humans. They overeat, drink too much, don't exercise due to fatigue, etc etc. A significant number also smoke which is always shocking to me.

Doctors can afford more than most so not being able to afford good food and access to exercise is not an excuse, but they also tend to have longer hours and higher day-to-day stress than the average person.

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Unfortunately presentation matters and if you're a doctor who is fat, I'm simply never going to listen to ever about advice about health and assume you're someone who has zero practical knowledge. It's comparable to the engineer vs mechanic about repairing an engine. I'm not going to listen to the engineer, I'll listen to the mechanic. It's obviously better for the engineer to have mechanic skills than just someone who is a mechanic, but practical knowledge is always better long term.

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You have to be fit and very Americanized, seemingly conservative/traditional, if you are going to be seeing me and/or my offspring over the long haul. During the pandemic when our girl was born, I screened out all foreign names immediately, I checked bios - opting for the caucasian man in his 40's with children who grew up playng sports.

I knew that foreigners and women were just much more likely to be swept up in the Covid mass psychosis. Zero regrets and couldn't be happier with our pediatrician. When he mentioned in our first post birth visit that Covid wasn't really even on his list of major concerns for newborns/babies/toddlers, I knew we had made the right choice.

If I need a robot to work on my heart or other organs, give me an Indian, Chinese or Arab woman who might even be on the spectrum, if they are truly the best. But when it comes to health advice and consultation, hell no. Those types tended to be the most indoctrinated. Unable to think "outside the manual".

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Sorry for spam just commenting when I hear stuff between patients.

It really sounds like this doc just got into a specialty she doesn't like. She would likely be an excellent primary care physician but that would also require her to throw away her years of surgical training and do another 3 years of training (maybe 2 depending on her internship).

She is right about the medical community crapping on primary care. I had advisers questioning my choice of specialty as I was a high performing medical student and a leader in my class. They questioned why I wouldn't go into a more profitable and prestigious field instead of the "poor" pediatrician.

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If I could find a primary care physician that had specialized into nutrition that would be an absolute godsend. A guy that does full on genetic analyses and tailors diets according to metabolic and genetic issues as well as long term fitness goals would be huge.

Why nutrition is not an explicitly specialty for doctors has always been kind of nuts to me given how much it affects diseases and is affected by genetics.

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Really is crazy when you think about it. Hospitals and their investors (or the industry as a whole) may not like less sick people, just sayin.