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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. articulated what MAGA really means, and I am glad he endorsed Donald Trump. If only Trump were as eloquent, he would be dominating Harris in swing states. Yes, the media would attack whoever the GOP nominee is, but Trump cannot control his mouth. As a result, he has turned off many independent and even some Republican voters from swing states.

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If you're "turned off" by the way he says things that are crystal clear, you're a ****ing moron that doesn't deserve to vote because you have zero understanding of how government works.

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I am not turned off by the way he talks, but I am only one voter. On the other hand, I think he turns off potential voters who might otherwise agree with him by his obnoxious, boorish, delivery. I know that may be hard for some people to believe.

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Jack Boyette said:

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. articulated what MAGA really means, and I am glad he endorsed Donald Trump. If only Trump were as eloquent, he would be dominating Harris in swing states. Yes, the media would attack whoever the GOP nominee is, but Trump cannot control his mouth. As a result, he has turned off many independent and even some Republican voters from swing states.

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If you're "turned off" by the way he says things that are crystal clear, you're a ****ing moron that doesn't deserve to vote because you have zero understanding of how government works.

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I am not turned off by the way he talks, but I am only one voter. On the other hand, I think he turns off potential voters who might otherwise agree with him by his obnoxious, boorish, delivery. I know that may be hard for some people to believe.

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I know you aren't. I'm talking about them.

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why couldn't Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists come up with this

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It's even better when it comes from someone outside the campaign.

Otherwise, it's just home cooking.

Nobody needs someone to be eloquent or speak in just the right terminology to explain what MAGA means. If you can't interpret what Make America Great Again means, and need someone to tell you, you probably shouldn't be voting in the first place.

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Rex Racer said:

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Do you mean like Obama? Is that what you want? A $4000 suit who is clean and articulate and can summon a southern preacher accent as necessary?

Someone with no accomplishments in life, but is liked because of skin color?

I'm all in with someone who'll fight for me, anyway necessary, and pisses off the establishment politicians, a strong personality like Patton or Trump suits me just fine.

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Ah, you gotta love TexAgs. Make a simple short statement, and someone takes it and twists it and turns it into something entirely different than what I meant. Never change, TexAgs.

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Maybe you should be more eloquent in your writing skills

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If you can't understand my one short sentence, then you have problems.

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Rex Racer said:

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Exactly - why couldn't Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists come up with this.

RFK Jr is a great addition to the team. I hope Trump doesn't push him to the back if he starts getting praised for his contributions.

Just win, however you have to do it.

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Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists couldn't come up with it because it doesn't describe them. What is described is the Republican Party of Eisenhower and to some extent Reagan. That's the Republican Party I grew up with and wanted to be a part of. I've shifted to being an Independent as the GOP has shifted further and further right and lost sight of what made the Party such a strong, powerful force. Want to make MAGA truly mean what it claims? Shift back toward what the GOP once stood for.

AggiePops said:

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aglaes said:

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Rex Racer said:

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Exactly - why couldn't Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists come up with this.

RFK Jr is a great addition to the team. I hope Trump doesn't push him to the back if he starts getting praised for his contributions.

Just win, however you have to do it.

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Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists couldn't come up with it because it doesn't describe them. What is described is the Republican Party of Eisenhower and to some extent Reagan. That's the Republican Party I grew up with and wanted to be a part of. I've shifted to being an Independent as the GOP has shifted further and further right and lost sight of what made the Party such a strong, powerful force. Want to make MAGA truly mean what it claims? Shift back toward what the GOP once stood for.

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This is interesting to me. We can demonstrate multiple areas in which republicans today are more liberal than the Republican Party of old. What exactly are these hard right issues that give you heartburn?

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aglaes said:

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Rex Racer said:

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Exactly - why couldn't Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists come up with this.

RFK Jr is a great addition to the team. I hope Trump doesn't push him to the back if he starts getting praised for his contributions.

Just win, however you have to do it.

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Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists couldn't come up with it because it doesn't describe them. What is described is the Republican Party of Eisenhower and to some extent Reagan. That's the Republican Party I grew up with and wanted to be a part of. I've shifted to being an Independent as the GOP has shifted further and further right and lost sight of what made the Party such a strong, powerful force. Want to make MAGA truly mean what it claims? Shift back toward what the GOP once stood for.

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Can you list out the things that the GOP once stood for that they no longer stand for that made it strong and powerful? I'm curious what is on your list. You mentioned Eisenhower and then Reagan, those are leaders from two different waves of the 20th Century GOP.

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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They aren't called "surrogates" for nothing. Sticking to the exact same talking points causes people to tune out.

Kamala is about to learn that lesson.

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Trump has been talking about MAGA since what, '14 or '15? You'd have thought SOMEONE would have been able to provide this clarity in that whole time.

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Politics is about ideas. Trump conceived the idea of MAGA. Others may have more eloquence in expressing the idea. But without Trump there would be no idea for them to express.

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Obviously taken from the Reagan "Make America Great" slogan, but yeah I guess Trump "conceived" it.

Jack Boyette said:

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Jack Boyette said:

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. articulated what MAGA really means, and I am glad he endorsed Donald Trump. If only Trump were as eloquent, he would be dominating Harris in swing states. Yes, the media would attack whoever the GOP nominee is, but Trump cannot control his mouth. As a result, he has turned off many independent and even some Republican voters from swing states.

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If you're "turned off" by the way he says things that are crystal clear, you're a ****ing moron that doesn't deserve to vote because you have zero understanding of how government works.

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I am not turned off by the way he talks, but I am only one voter. On the other hand, I think he turns off potential voters who might otherwise agree with him by his obnoxious, boorish, delivery. I know that may be hard for some people to believe.

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I know you aren't. I'm talking about them.

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The point of being a politician is to convince voters you have the best ideas. You can blame the voters for not understanding, but when elections are close it seems to me a good strategy might be to understand your audience (undecided voters) and adjust the messaging so that you can pick a few votes up.

Trump wants to win, doesn't he?

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Ain't that the truth.

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Rex Racer said:

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Exactly - why couldn't Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists come up with this.

RFK Jr is a great addition to the team. I hope Trump doesn't push him to the back if he starts getting praised for his contributions.

Just win, however you have to do it.

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Unfortunately, I disagree. I think he takes more votes from Kamala in the Presidential as a 3rd party candidate Vs. Endorsing Trump. I hope I'm wrong.

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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a battering ram who can stand up to anything was needed.

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Obviously you weren't in the corps in the '60's. Go to your room and cry.

Exactly. The hate for MAGA is 100% media propaganda generated. However, Trump doesn't do himself any favors. His truth social rants are the worst writings by a national politician that I can think of

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AggiePops said:

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aglaes said:

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Rex Racer said:

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Exactly - why couldn't Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists come up with this.

RFK Jr is a great addition to the team. I hope Trump doesn't push him to the back if he starts getting praised for his contributions.

Just win, however you have to do it.

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Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists couldn't come up with it because it doesn't describe them. What is described is the Republican Party of Eisenhower and to some extent Reagan. That's the Republican Party I grew up with and wanted to be a part of. I've shifted to being an Independent as the GOP has shifted further and further right and lost sight of what made the Party such a strong, powerful force. Want to make MAGA truly mean what it claims? Shift back toward what the GOP once stood for.

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This is interesting to me. We can demonstrate multiple areas in which republicans today are more liberal than the Republican Party of old. What exactly are these hard right issues that give you heartburn?

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Here's a couple of examples of items taken from the Republican Party platform of 1952.

We charge that they have violated our liberties by turning loose upon the country a swarm of arrogant bureaucrats and their agents who meddle intolerably in the lives and occupations of our citizens.

We charge that there has been corruption in high places, and that examples of dishonesty and dishonor have shamed the moral standards of the American people.

Those items were written about the Democrats of the time. It is now describing today's Republican Party as much or more. The second in particular describes Trump very well and by connection those Republican politicians who initially recognized him for what he is but then flip flopped and began kissing his butt and following his lead after he won in 2016. For sure the Dems are still guilty of some of what the GOP platform describes but the GOP has totally abdicated the high road.

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The Banned said:

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Rex Racer said:

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Obviously you weren't in the corps in the '60's. Go to your room and cry.

Exactly. The hate for MAGA is 100% media propaganda generated. However, Trump doesn't do himself any favors. His truth social rants are the worst writings by a national politician that I can think of

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So I should base my analysis of political savvy on what an 18 year old was willing to put up with in the height of multiple wars. The same 18 year old that willingly signed up knowing he was obligated to serve in the military and he was going to a school with no women.

None of these are bad things. Honestly, I think they were all good things we should consider bringing back. But none of these show me that being an ******* wins voted in modern America.

I want the modern democrat party buried if Trump being a jackass makes that less likely, I will call it out. And based on the conversations I have with men in their 30s who aren't not sold on Trump, this is an issue. I'll vote for him over any democrat I've been exposed to. But the people in the middle need something more than that.

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Obviously you weren't in the corps in the '60's. Go to your room and cry.

Exactly. The hate for MAGA is 100% media propaganda generated. However, Trump doesn't do himself any favors. His truth social rants are the worst writings by a national politician that I can think of

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So I should base my analysis of political savvy on what an 18 year old was willing to put up with in the height of multiple wars. The same 18 year old that willingly signed up knowing he was obligated to serve in the military and he was going to a school with no women.

None of these are bad things. Honestly, I think they were all good things we should consider bringing back. But none of these show me that being an ******* wins voted in modern America.

I want the modern democrat party buried if Trump being a jackass makes that less likely, I will call it out. And based on the conversations I have with men in their 30s who aren't not sold on Trump, this is an issue. I'll vote for him over any democrat I've been exposed to. But the people in the middle need something more than that.

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How about some ****ing bread lines? Will that do the trick?

What a bunch of morons.

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AggiePops said:

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aglaes said:

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Rex Racer said:

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Exactly - why couldn't Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists come up with this.

RFK Jr is a great addition to the team. I hope Trump doesn't push him to the back if he starts getting praised for his contributions.

Just win, however you have to do it.

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Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists couldn't come up with it because it doesn't describe them. What is described is the Republican Party of Eisenhower and to some extent Reagan. That's the Republican Party I grew up with and wanted to be a part of. I've shifted to being an Independent as the GOP has shifted further and further right and lost sight of what made the Party such a strong, powerful force. Want to make MAGA truly mean what it claims? Shift back toward what the GOP once stood for.

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This is interesting to me. We can demonstrate multiple areas in which republicans today are more liberal than the Republican Party of old. What exactly are these hard right issues that give you heartburn?

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Here's a couple of examples of items taken from the Republican Party platform of 1952.

We charge that they have violated our liberties by turning loose upon the country a swarm of arrogant bureaucrats and their agents who meddle intolerably in the lives and occupations of our citizens.

We charge that there has been corruption in high places, and that examples of dishonesty and dishonor have shamed the moral standards of the American people.

Those items were written about the Democrats of the time. It is now describing today's Republican Party as much or more. The second in particular describes Trump very well and by connection those Republican politicians who initially recognized him for what he is but then flip flopped and began kissing his butt and following his lead after he won in 2016. For sure the Dems are still guilty of some of what the GOP platform describes but the GOP has totally abdicated the high road.

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I don't even know how to begin… I hope this is coherent when I'm done typing.

- republicans and bureaucrats? This is seems like an intentional troll. Trump, for all of his MASSIVE flaws, has been the one deriding the unelected bureaucracy since he started. Those very bureaucrats are the ones who fabricated the Russian collusion. I don't know if a more inaccurate statement has ever been posted here. I mean, he was LITERALLY spied on in his original campaign. No one prosecuted. He was thwarted many times over by the bureaucracy. In fact, I think trumps biggest fake is not understanding just how deep the unelected officials go, and just how little voters determine policy right now. In contrast, the democrats have perfected the use of unelected officials to get things done. That you could type this makes me confused. Pleas elaborate, because I'm hoping I totally misunderstood you.

Corruption in the high places? I'm not going those all of the Biden corruptions out in the event you will ignore them. Instead I'll ask: have you read any of the Biden corruption scandals?

Jack Boyette said:

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The Banned said:

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Rex Racer said:

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Obviously you weren't in the corps in the '60's. Go to your room and cry.

Exactly. The hate for MAGA is 100% media propaganda generated. However, Trump doesn't do himself any favors. His truth social rants are the worst writings by a national politician that I can think of

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So I should base my analysis of political savvy on what an 18 year old was willing to put up with in the height of multiple wars. The same 18 year old that willingly signed up knowing he was obligated to serve in the military and he was going to a school with no women.

None of these are bad things. Honestly, I think they were all good things we should consider bringing back. But none of these show me that being an ******* wins voted in modern America.

I want the modern democrat party buried if Trump being a jackass makes that less likely, I will call it out. And based on the conversations I have with men in their 30s who aren't not sold on Trump, this is an issue. I'll vote for him over any democrat I've been exposed to. But the people in the middle need something more than that.

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How about some ****ing bread lines? Will that do the trick?

What a bunch of morons.

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Bread lines might work to change people's minds. Any ideas on how to change their mind before we're all ****ed? I'm in my lay 30s with plenty of kids so what I'm focused on is finding a leader people will listen to so
We never get there.

Get upset at people for not receiving the message. Based on your supposed age, you don't have much to lose but for me and mine, there is plenty at stake, so I will ask for someone who doesn't turn off people just by opening his mouth.

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Rex Racer said:

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Exactly - why couldn't Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists come up with this.

RFK Jr is a great addition to the team. I hope Trump doesn't push him to the back if he starts getting praised for his contributions.

Just win, however you have to do it.

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Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists couldn't come up with it because it doesn't describe them. What is described is the Republican Party of Eisenhower and to some extent Reagan. That's the Republican Party I grew up with and wanted to be a part of. I've shifted to being an Independent as the GOP has shifted further and further right and lost sight of what made the Party such a strong, powerful force. Want to make MAGA truly mean what it claims? Shift back toward what the GOP once stood for.

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Can you list out the things that the GOP once stood for that they no longer stand for that made it strong and powerful? I'm curious what is on your list. You mentioned Eisenhower and then Reagan, those are leaders from two different waves of the 20th Century GOP.

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Yes, the GOP began changing even back before Reagan. The Democrats had some real DemoRats in their Party back in the day. They formed the base of the KKK and formulated the Jim Crow laws. Those scum got highly pissed when Truman introduced civil rights to the Party platform in 1948 and separated to a new category called Dixiecrats. Then in the early 60s during the civil rights movement that saw the Democratic Party social conscience emerge enough to pass legislation the Dixiecrats ended up leaving the Democratic Party. And joined the Republican Party. Before then 'The South' was solidly Democratic, but began becoming more and more Republican. How's this? How popular are labor unions in the South? Not very, right? Republicans used to champion labor unions and the right to organize. There's still some lip service to it by some in the Party but for the most part, the Republican Party has over time become primarily anti-Union. Add in the growing influence of extremely conservative religious groups who call the GOP their Party who feel their moral beliefs should not only be accepted by all but actually become the law of the land and for sure, the GOP has changed.

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Politics is about ideas. Trump conceived the idea of MAGA. Others may have more eloquence in expressing the idea. But without Trump there would be no idea for them to express.

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No doubt it's Trump's intellectual property in spirit (and in filings depending on context). Others use it with his permission or at their political peril. RFK is in the circle of trust now so he has license to play with it.

The MSM are doing everything they can to ignore RFKJ or ridicule him. Unfortunately I think the impact of his endorsement will ring hollow to those squishy middle Americans who decide elections.

Besides the super rich and elite that control the democrat party, the democrat party should be the party of the low IQ people …. I truly wonder how many of the uneducated people have no idea what they stand for other than give me my monthly check… this inflation has gotten out of control. When he talks about Making America Great again he is talking about bringing jobs and industrial strength back to America… I don't see how they don't understand that.. CNN has brain washed the dumbs … but I guess if you don't work and just draw a check none of that really matters ….

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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a battering ram who can stand up to anything was needed.

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I agree. But you can be eloquent and still be strong. Being eloquent doesn't mean being a wimp.

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Besides the super rich and elite that control the democrat party, the democrat party should be the party of the low IQ people …. I truly wonder how many of the uneducated people have no idea what they stand for other than give me my monthly check… this inflation has gotten out of control. When he talks about Making America Great again he is talking about bringing jobs and industrial strength back to America… I don't see how they don't understand that.. CNN has brain washed the dumbs … but I guess if you don't work and just draw a check none of that really matters ….

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If anyone doubts this, just find a clip of the rally at which Kamala announces her plan of price controls and taxpayer subsidies for first-time home buyers. The economic imbeciles in the background are cheering and high-fiving each other as if Oprah herself were there giving away cars.

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aglaes said:

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Rex Racer said:

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If only Trump were as eloquent.

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Exactly - why couldn't Trump and his cadre of consultants and strategists come up with this.

RFK Jr is a great addition to the team. I hope Trump doesn't push him to the back if he starts getting praised for his contributions.

Just win, however you have to do it.

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Unfortunately, I disagree. I think he takes more votes from Kamala in the Presidential as a 3rd party candidate Vs. Endorsing Trump. I hope I'm wrong.

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I think polling shows that his supporters are more likely to vote for Trump than Kamala if he was not a candidate. I doubt the Trump team would have agreed to this arrangement if polling was the other way.