Kamala Isn't a Talentless Hack

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theeyetest
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Yes, she's a horrible person. Yes, she has horrible policies. Yes, she's a liar and a thief. Yes, she's an ultra left wing nut job.

But this "talentless politician" that's been painted by conservative media sine she received the nomination is factually incorrect. I forced myself to watch her speech last night, and while it was full of lies and espoused anything but hope and joy, she has come into her own as an orator and presenting her case to be president.

She doesn't have to present her policies to the American people. She's a woman and a person of color; therefore, nobody will ask her tough questions in fear of being labeled "racist" or "sexist".

For the next 74 days we have to fight with everything we have to not allow this egomaniacal, self aggrandizing clown into the Whitehouse. Bring 10 people with you to the polls. This thing is NOT over. FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

kag00
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She won't be forced to do much other than read from a prompter. Biden created the hide in the basement campaign and she is going to copy in many respects.
rocky the dog
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For the next 74 days we have to fight with everything we have to not allow this egomaniac, self aggrandizing clown into the Whitehouse.
Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
doubledog
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Obama's greatest talent is that he can give a speak like a preacher on Sunday morning.
Harris can read a tel-a-prompter like the president of the glee club.

We all know how Obama turned out.
The Beef01
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kag00 said:

She won't be forced to do much other than read from a prompter. Biden created the hide in the basement campaign and she is going to copy in many respects.
It worked for Biden b/c his side had created an absolute s*** show with COVID lockdowns and trying their best to destroy a thriving economy just so that they could get into the White House.

It's going to be very hard for them to get to the finish line with that strategy considering people are already getting angry over the "Joy!" campaign while people are suffering and SHE is one of the people directly responsible for it.

They're always going to have the boot lickers in the media...but when even some of their usual fans are starting to get visibly frustrated and speaking out against their election strategy; it's not going to be sustainable for the next 2 1/2 months.
El Gallo Blanco
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She gonna win. America is THAT stupid and, women, in particular, are THAT shallow.

Thinking about placing a fairly large bet on her to win. An "emotional hedge" bet of sorts. I would be thrilled to lose it, but if she wins, which she likely will, I will at least be a few G's richer and can maybe get an another gun or something.
No Spin Ag
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At the debate, if she hasn't answered questions from reporters and hasn't gone into details of policies she wants to enact, Trump needs to hammer her, in a calm, non-Trump way, about why she hasn't, then go into what he will do. Make the contrast so stark that she can't help but come off as inept and unqualified. IMO.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
Owlagdad
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kag00 said:

She won't be forced to do much other than read from a prompter. Biden created the hide in the basement campaign and she is going to copy in many respects.
And the American people need to know about her, and shame on the gutless, corrupt media for letting her slide. they are useful idiots who are digging their own grave-- no need for media, except state run under what Kamala promotes.
AgNav93
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Would you really trust her to sit across a table from Putin and negotiate peace in Ukraine? He'd eat her alive. She does not have the talent for that stage. She can read a teleprompter. Whoooptee do.
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theeyetest said:

Yes, she's a horrible person. Yes, she has horrible policies. Yes, she's a liar and a thief. Yes, she's an ultra left wing nut job.

But this "talentless politician" that's been painted by conservative media sine she received the nomination is factually incorrect. I forced myself to watch her speech last night, and while it was full of lies and espoused anything but hope and joy, she has come into her own as an orator and presenting her case to be president.

She doesn't have to present her policies to the American people. She's a woman and a person of color; therefore, nobody will ask her tough questions in fear of being labeled "racist" or "sexist".

For the next 74 days we have to fight with everything we have to not allow this egomaniacal, self aggrandizing clown into the Whitehouse. Bring 10 people with you to the polls. This thing is NOT over. FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!


She has not "come into her own", but I guess like many you have not paid attention to the last 4 years of her "speeches".
sam callahan
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she has come into her own as an orator and presenting her case to be president.

Dude, she read a prepared speech written by a team of which she was not a member.

We all know the only orator skills she can claim credit for.
Gigem314
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So because she can read from a telemprompter...she's some kind of orator?

That's how low of a bar we're setting now?

"Conservative media" aren't the ones doing the painting. The mainstream media are the ones doing the painting and making her out to look like some kind of icon and savior.
Artorias
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theeyetest said:

Yes, she's a horrible person. Yes, she has horrible policies. Yes, she's a liar and a thief. Yes, she's an ultra left wing nut job.

But this "talentless politician" that's been painted by conservative media sine she received the nomination is factually incorrect. I forced myself to watch her speech last night, and while it was full of lies and espoused anything but hope and joy, she has come into her own as an orator and presenting her case to be president.

She doesn't have to present her policies to the American people. She's a woman and a person of color; therefore, nobody will ask her tough questions in fear of being labeled "racist" or "sexist".

For the next 74 days we have to fight with everything we have to not allow this egomaniacal, self aggrandizing clown into the Whitehouse. Bring 10 people with you to the polls. This thing is NOT over. FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!


It is not that difficult to learn how to deliver a teleprompter speech with decent performance. Tons of people do it all the time. It does not indicate nor require any high level of talent.

Now contrast that with her speaking in public unscripted and uncontrolled. Obvious complete lack of any talent whatsoever.
BD88
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She is a TALENTLESS HACK.

Who are you fooling?
The Beef01
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Obviously, anecdotal evidence can cut both ways, but I know 2 separate Biden voters who I'm relatively close to who have said that they're going to abstain from voting b/c they think she is a moron. Tacit admissions that they'd actually vote for Trump, but they refuse to vote for Trump, so they're going to sit this one out.

I think that there is a LOT of Astroturfing going on right now with Kamala and it's being done out of desperation and that's what scares me. I don't think they are actually going to be able to get close and that group being desperate should scare everyone given the rampant Narcissism; nobody else matters and everyone is a pawn at the end of the day, so there's no telling what ends they'd be willing to go to.
PanzerAggie06
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She's many things but one of the things she is not is stupid.

Like it or not you don't become the DA of San Francisco, Attorney General of California, Senator from California, and VPOTUS by being a stupid person. And spare me with the Wille Brown nonsense. That's as low brow as the claims that Trump has a penchant for peeing on prostitutes and has a tiny dick.

Point being…. It's a dangerous game to assume your enemy is stupid. Yep, she's horrible when it comes to speaking off script and has an annoying laugh when she gets nervous. Everyone, yes everyone, has annoying traits. It's better to assume she's brilliant and plan accordingly than to be so assured that's she's stupid and get comfortable waiting for her to **** up.
astros4545
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She has more talent at ORAL than any presidential candidate in history. Barack gives her a run for her money Im sure though
stetson
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She is horrible at improvisational speech.
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PanzerAggie06 said:

She's many things but one of the things she is not is stupid.

Like it or not you don't become the DA of San Francisco, Attorney General of California, Senator from California, and VPOTUS by being a stupid person. And spare me with the Wille Brown nonsense. That's as low brow as the claims that Trump has a penchant for peeing on prostitutes and has a tiny dick.

Point being…. It's a dangerous game to assume your enemy is stupid. Yep, she's horrible when it comes to speaking off script and has an annoying laugh when she gets nervous. Everyone, yes everyone, has annoying traits. It's better to assume she's brilliant and plan accordingly than to be so assured that's she's stupid and get comfortable waiting for her to **** up.
Its not an assumption that she is stupid, its proven

The Beef01
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PanzerAggie06 said:

She's many things but one of the things she is not is stupid.

Like it or not you don't become the DA of San Francisco, Attorney General of California, Senator from California, and VPOTUS by being a stupid person. And spare me with the Wille Brown nonsense. That's as low brow as the claims that Trump has a penchant for peeing on prostitutes and has a tiny dick.

Point being…. It's a dangerous game to assume your enemy is stupid. Yep, she's horrible when it comes to speaking off script and has an annoying laugh when she gets nervous. Everyone, yes everyone, has annoying traits. It's better to assume she's brilliant and plan accordingly than to be so assured that's she's stupid and get comfortable waiting for her to **** up.
You've no reason to take me at my word as it doesn't mean anything in an online/semi-anonymous community...but take my word for it, she is stupid and every boss and/or coworker she has ever had has openly told anyone doing background checks on her about it.
aggieque
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theeyetest said:


For the next 74 days we have to fight with everything we have to not allow this egomaniacal, self aggrandizing clown into the Whitehouse. Bring 10 people with you to the polls. This thing is NOT over. FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!




I agree! We can't let a serial liar, cheater, felon, Manchurian, idiotic, all about himself candidate back into the White House!

,La! ,La! , La!
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stetson said:

She is horrible at improvisational speech.


Case in point

Harris Tells Football Team They Are 'Undefeated' Even If They Lose

https://scnr.com/article/harris-tells-football-team-they-are-undefeated-even-if-they-lose_a95ef1825df811ef9c930242ac1c0002
Wabs
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Debates should be interesting. Kamala will 100% try to drag Trump into an insult-fest - and 100% chance Trump will fall for it. And that's going to be a problem. If the debate stuck to the issues only, Trump would demolish her. But that simply won't happen.
twk
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Peggy Noonan (who has a bad case of TDS), did a pretty good job of summing up Kamala:

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Ms. Harris is limited in this respect: She never had to be anything but a person of the left to rise in the Democratic bastion of California. She never had to talk to a conservative or a Republican. What she had to do to succeed in her Democratic state was juggle different party coalitions. She could commiserate with big donors at a Bel Air fundraiser and roll her eyes at some reference to those Democratic Socialist of America types. Yes, they get a little carried away. She could meet with members of a progressive social-justice organization and roll her eyes again when they complained of donor clout: Look, we have to live in the real world; we need money to do what's right. That's where her political muscles were developed.

This week she appeared before some smallish crowds and gatherings, holding a mic, walking along a stage, and speaking publicly in a way that might have been planned but wasn't scripted. And here you saw her limit as a public figure: Unscripted, she's word-saying. She isn't having a thought and looking for the right words to express it, she's saying words and hoping they'll amount to a thought. She isn't someone who never had a thought. She seems more like someone who has learned to question whether her thoughts should be expressed.
WSJ (paywall)
94chem
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Harris is going to win. It's time for the Republican party to start doing down ballot damage control, and to start figuring out where to go once Donald Trump's hold on the party has ended.
94chem,
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A product of the media

Deputy Travis Junior
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PanzerAggie06 said:

She's many things but one of the things she is not is stupid.

Like it or not you don't become the DA of San Francisco, Attorney General of California, Senator from California, and VPOTUS by being a stupid person. And spare me with the Wille Brown nonsense. That's as low brow as the claims that Trump has a penchant for peeing on prostitutes and has a tiny dick.



She went to a meh undergrad, a meh law school, and then failed the bar her first time (this was a long time ago and it's possible she was just another doofus who didn't take her education seriously before getting her act together, but it's still a data point). Fast forward to today and she incapable of explaining a complex policy issue or defending her position. Like, utterly incapable. She descends into incomprehensible word salad or says empty, superficial crap. There is never any theoretical backing or citation for any claim she makes. In addition, she wasn't any sort of intellectual or policy leader while a senator. She just parroted the far left talking points of the day, all of which were masterminded by somebody else.

She's definitely not an "idiot" in the true sense of the word, but with all the info we have you can make a strong case that she's a 75th or 80th percentile intellect. And I don't know about you, but "smarter than 3 out of 4" doesn't seem to me to be an adequate resume for the hardest job in the world.
94chem
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The NPR approach. Have a debate between the far left and the moderate left and called it Fair and Balanced.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
4stringAg
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To me its not that she's stupid, its that she's just an empty vessel. I know a lot of people that have climbed the corporate ladder who are not overly intelligent but sound like they are. They have the exact same traits she does: empty words, inauthentic, word salad, overt hand gestures, laughing or some other sort of way to hide their lack of knowledge on a subject. Their "smarts" or whatever you want to call it come more in the form of cozying up to the right people or having an ally that is moving them ahead.
PanzerAggie06
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The Beef01 said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

She's many things but one of the things she is not is stupid.

Like it or not you don't become the DA of San Francisco, Attorney General of California, Senator from California, and VPOTUS by being a stupid person. And spare me with the Wille Brown nonsense. That's as low brow as the claims that Trump has a penchant for peeing on prostitutes and has a tiny dick.

Point being…. It's a dangerous game to assume your enemy is stupid. Yep, she's horrible when it comes to speaking off script and has an annoying laugh when she gets nervous. Everyone, yes everyone, has annoying traits. It's better to assume she's brilliant and plan accordingly than to be so assured that's she's stupid and get comfortable waiting for her to **** up.
You've no reason to take me at my word as it doesn't mean anything in an online/semi-anonymous community...but take my word for it, she is stupid and every boss and/or coworker she has ever had has openly told anyone doing background checks on her about it.


For the sake of argument I'll say I believe you. However, my post is still 100% valid. The safest course of action is to assume she is brilliant and to plan accordingly. Trump needs to run his campaign as if she is the most brilliant politician that has ever walked the planet. Getting overly comfortable because she's "stupid" is a dangerous game to play. Even stupid gets lucky.
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She can read well. That's it.

The have to hide her like Biden from unscripted interactions, but they are well practiced at it by now
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theeyetest said:

She doesn't have to present her policies to the American people. She's a woman and a person of color; therefore, nobody will ask her tough questions in fear of being labeled "racist" or "sexist".
There's plenty of people, even plenty of blacks who are not impressed with her so called black identity. I know we will always be burdened by the idiot 2/3 of our country but at least she doesn't have a complete lock on african americans.
The Beef01
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PanzerAggie06 said:

The Beef01 said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

She's many things but one of the things she is not is stupid.

Like it or not you don't become the DA of San Francisco, Attorney General of California, Senator from California, and VPOTUS by being a stupid person. And spare me with the Wille Brown nonsense. That's as low brow as the claims that Trump has a penchant for peeing on prostitutes and has a tiny dick.

Point being…. It's a dangerous game to assume your enemy is stupid. Yep, she's horrible when it comes to speaking off script and has an annoying laugh when she gets nervous. Everyone, yes everyone, has annoying traits. It's better to assume she's brilliant and plan accordingly than to be so assured that's she's stupid and get comfortable waiting for her to **** up.
You've no reason to take me at my word as it doesn't mean anything in an online/semi-anonymous community...but take my word for it, she is stupid and every boss and/or coworker she has ever had has openly told anyone doing background checks on her about it.


For the sake of argument I'll say I believe you. However, my post is still 100% valid. The safest course of action is to assume she is brilliant and to plan accordingly. Trump needs to run his campaign as if she is the most brilliant politician that has ever walked the planet. Getting overly comfortable because she's "stupid" is a dangerous game to play. Even stupid gets lucky.
Oh, 100%.
The Beef01
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Deputy Travis Junior said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

She's many things but one of the things she is not is stupid.

Like it or not you don't become the DA of San Francisco, Attorney General of California, Senator from California, and VPOTUS by being a stupid person. And spare me with the Wille Brown nonsense. That's as low brow as the claims that Trump has a penchant for peeing on prostitutes and has a tiny dick.



She went to a meh undergrad, a meh law school, and then failed the bar her first time (this was a long time ago and it's possible she was just another doofus who didn't take her education seriously, but it's still a data point). Fast forward to today and she incapable of explaining a complex policy issue or defending her position. Like, utterly incapable. She descends into incomprehensible word salad or says empty, superficial crap. There is never any theoretical backing of citation for any claim she makes.

She's definitely not an "idiot" in the true sense of the word, but with all the info we have you can make a strong case that she's a 75th or 80th percentile intellect. And I don't know about you, but "smarter than 3 out of 4" doesn't seem to me to be an adequate resume for the hardest job in the world.
(This is a tongue-in-cheek credit to your analysis)

If "what can be, unburdened by what has been" were a simple, cogent thought.
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The Beef01 said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

The Beef01 said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

She's many things but one of the things she is not is stupid.

Like it or not you don't become the DA of San Francisco, Attorney General of California, Senator from California, and VPOTUS by being a stupid person. And spare me with the Wille Brown nonsense. That's as low brow as the claims that Trump has a penchant for peeing on prostitutes and has a tiny dick.

Point being…. It's a dangerous game to assume your enemy is stupid. Yep, she's horrible when it comes to speaking off script and has an annoying laugh when she gets nervous. Everyone, yes everyone, has annoying traits. It's better to assume she's brilliant and plan accordingly than to be so assured that's she's stupid and get comfortable waiting for her to **** up.
You've no reason to take me at my word as it doesn't mean anything in an online/semi-anonymous community...but take my word for it, she is stupid and every boss and/or coworker she has ever had has openly told anyone doing background checks on her about it.


For the sake of argument I'll say I believe you. However, my post is still 100% valid. The safest course of action is to assume she is brilliant and to plan accordingly. Trump needs to run his campaign as if she is the most brilliant politician that has ever walked the planet. Getting overly comfortable because she's "stupid" is a dangerous game to play. Even stupid gets lucky.
Oh, 100%.
It seems like Trump and Vance are taking her seriously as they are focusing in on her policies and track record that have harmed everyday Americans. If Trump stays on course this fall he is going to look better and better as Kamala will have to go off script. The challenge is overcoming the constant media hate about Trump.
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