justnobody79 said:

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I think you are giving Barry and Big Mike too much credit. They were merely puppets. Barry in more ways than one.

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Now conservatives are saying that Obama is the puppet master for Biden. The conspiracy silliness never stops.

FrioAg 00 said:

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History will eventually see him in the same light as revolution instigators like Stalin, Mao, etc

He and the people behind him changed the direction of this country significantly, and for the worse

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I really don't think so, academics and media who will frame him all idolize him and history is not going to be a guide much longer as far as "the truth coming out eventually" because technology and the surveillance state will control info infinitely more than ever before going forward. He will be revered and no challenge to that will be allowed.

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They have lived off of the taxpayer, like the Clintons, for so long, it is impossible to call them anything but frauds and grifters. What is even more appalling is that the American people (general use of those words) bought into it and many continue to do so.

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How have they lived off the taxpayer? He taught at a presitigious university, community organizer. After his Presidency, they've both made money on books and speeches. Those are a lot of things NOT on the taxpayer dime.

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justnobody79 said:

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I think you are giving Barry and Big Mike too much credit. They were merely puppets. Barry in more ways than one.

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Now conservatives are saying that Obama is the puppet master for Biden. The conspiracy silliness never stops.

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There is a common denominator in both terms, Valerie Jarrett. So if Jarrett and Obama are not pulling strings, then what do you have to say about how bad things are in this country in the past 3.5 years? Or how bad things have gotten really since 2009 outside of a few good years when someone else was in office?

People nation wide are in bad bad shape financially with no plans from dems to make it better other than increasing taxes which does not work if anyone would bother to learn econ. The infrastructure is falling apart, billons missing from the infrastructure bill. $100+ billion sent to Ukraine for what? Billions spent on green initiatives that only harm the planet. Billions spent on illegal immigrants. Who pays for all this? The middle class? Who hates the middle class? Democrats. Crime has gotten so bad that dem led cities dont even report stats to the FBI.

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AJCB said:

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They have lived off of the taxpayer, like the Clintons, for so long, it is impossible to call them anything but frauds and grifters. What is even more appalling is that the American people (general use of those words) bought into it and many continue to do so.

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How have they lived off the taxpayer? He taught at a presitigious university, community organizer. After his Presidency, they've both made money on books and speeches. Those are a lot of things NOT on the taxpayer dime.

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Obama has never held a real job, where did he teach? And who pays him to organize communities? Bro, get in reality.

Barry is the epitome of the Manchurian candidate.

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Barry is the epitome of the Manchurian candidate.

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And so was Joe Biden, and so is Tim Walz. Kamala might just be too dumb/drunk to know what she supports/represents, but given her Marxist father I don't think she has strayed too far from the tree...

I completely agree that he divided our country.
With that in mind, was McCain a legitimate candidate, or were he and sugar t!+s set up candidates?

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Still has a Chicago house:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/kVg6CWqdBpqS1Eo9A

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pisses me off they block off the sidewalk

as Michelle Obama points out- you should only take what you need in society.

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nortex97 said:

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I know this is unpopular but I still think Jimmy Carter takes the cake for biggest fraud in our history as an executive. He added to this by masquerading as some devout Christian which pisses me off more. Obama barely tried to hide his narcissism, at least.

Both are/were hateful men who should have never been in the Oval Office. Carter was so damn bad he couldn't even come close to a second term (Obama probably wouldn't have either but for the GOP's decision to basically forfeit in 2012), and they gave rise to two of our greatest presidents, respectively, in their reign of horrible, vile, terrible times in office.

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So Jimmy is a fake Christian, but you think DJT is a man of faith? Ok, sure. Interesting way you define the faith.

Also, you don't like Jimmy because he was "hateful" man but you love Trump?

Jimmy Carter was a bad President because he was bad at the job. Smart guy but not a leader. Kind man but way too naive. Rs lose elections because we default to this weird "my guy is more Christian than your guy talk" when it is pretty obviously not so. We cannot really see into a man's soul and we look like Karens and losers trying. Just kick the oppositions ass on policy. Dems default to thinking the Govt can/must fix everything. While we are turning into Trump's whining, boycotting, protesting army, the Dems are trying to wrestle the concept of freedom from us. That is absurd but will work because we look like a bunch of old ladies.

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oh look - the true conservative CM has shown up with his TDS again. Looks like he got his feelings hurt because folks were talking about true hero

Michelle is an even bigger fraud as she grew up much more privileged than the vast majority of us "white privilege" folks. Everything she stands for is hypocrisy

Can't describe how much I despise that anti-American sack of sh**. And it has nothing to do with his homosexuality.

I have always wished the absolute worst for obama, and still do. I will have to ask for forgiveness if my wish comes true. He is the enemy.

FrioAg 00 said:

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History will eventually see him in the same light as revolution instigators like Stalin, Mao, etc

He and the people behind him changed the direction of this country significantly, and for the worse

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Except, if our society continues moving in the direction it has since the 60s, in as little as two or so generations, the history books will be written by those living in that future, who will likely think it's the best society could be because it's come so far from what it was.

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4stringAg said:

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Obama was raised up with radicals. He knows the Alinsky playbook, its his bible. His wife is an avowed racist.

His election brought on the Dem party's lurch to the far left and gave impetus to the corrosive, destructive progressive movement and brought it mainstream.

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Yet, they don't associate with many white folks.
If they weren't who they are and had all their riches and white friends, why radicals would stir up and call them uncle toms and wanna be whites people. They get a pass because of politics. They don't get the Herman Cain treatment.

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The only white people they associate with are either working for them (like David Plouffe) or kissing their asses (that beta Dem commentator that was on Fox with Bret Baier last night)

OP must really be a MAGA cult leader to say that and then worship a ego driven pathological lier who only cares about him self.. It is becoming funny.

Barak was born to PRIVILEGED radicals. Her family had money. And although he grew up privileged, his daddy ran off just like a kid in Harlem or Karnak, Texas. His grandmas money let him mingle with the (not) best and brightest, but deep down, he was just like other black kids in a single female led home.
He resented that, and takes his hatred out on everyone else. And he is smart and game enough that he enjoys playing with folks.

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FrioAg 00 said:

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History will eventually see him in the same light as revolution instigators like Stalin, Mao, etc

He and the people behind him changed the direction of this country significantly, and for the worse

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I really don't think so, academics and media who will frame him all idolize him and history is not going to be a guide much longer as far as "the truth coming out eventually" because technology and the surveillance state will control info infinitely more than ever before going forward. He will be revered and no challenge to that will be allowed.

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When I say history, I mean after the next American Revolution. When people ask "how did a great country begin to implode?"

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OP must really be a MAGA cult leader to say that and then worship a ego driven pathological lier who only cares about him self.. It is becoming funny.

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After watching some of the DNC's propaganda and speakers this week, Trump's ego looks weak in comparison. Criminals, grifters, liars and parasites all, at least Trump makes his own money doesn't have to lie to a gullible constituency to support himself.

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orchestrated the weaponization of government against an opponent.

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Americans seem shocked that the massive security apparatus created after 9-11 was turned against its own people.

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OP must really be a MAGA cult leader to say that and then worship a ego driven pathological lier who only cares about him self.. It is becoming funny.

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The irony of calling people fraud and the like, then backing a known documented fraud. So many emotions here for a someone out of office for a decade.

I see lots of hurt feels from last night's speeches. It's going to be a long 8 years.

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I see lots of hurt feels from last night's speeches. It's going to be a long 8 years.

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Hurt feelings? Sorry you misunderstood but nobody likes the great dividers.

An American oligarchy.

Americans love a dynasty, but more than that Americans love love love the wives of presidents.

Americans love the wife of a president more than any people in history.

51% of the population loves it because it's their very own Cinderella story.

America might not have royalty, but thats as close was we gonna get.

People love it. America loves it.

txwxman said:

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I see lots of hurt feels from last night's speeches. It's going to be a long 8 years.

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now I understand your post on the cooler summer thread

FrioAg 00 said:

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Joes said:

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FrioAg 00 said:

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History will eventually see him in the same light as revolution instigators like Stalin, Mao, etc

He and the people behind him changed the direction of this country significantly, and for the worse

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I really don't think so, academics and media who will frame him all idolize him and history is not going to be a guide much longer as far as "the truth coming out eventually" because technology and the surveillance state will control info infinitely more than ever before going forward. He will be revered and no challenge to that will be allowed.

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When I say history, I mean after the next American Revolution. When people ask "how did a great country begin to implode?"

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I hope you're right.

Big Mike's IVF children spotted on the beach at Drake's stabbin cabin in Malibu. Neither resemble their parents. Surrogacy is an extreme possibility

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txwxman said:

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I see lots of hurt feels from last night's speeches. It's going to be a long 8 years.

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Hurt feelings? Sorry you misunderstood but nobody likes the great dividers.

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I get that, but I don't get people hate-watching something, or in this case, someone that's "on the other side."

No one who watched Obama last night didn't know who he was, what he was about, or anything else. Yet folks on the right seem to have watched while he was speaking live of all things and then complaining about it in real-time. I know the left did the same with Trump, and to me, it's such a waste of life and time.

I don't know; I guess I see life as too short to watch something/someone knowing you're going to have nothing but hatred, or at the very least, negative feelings while watching.

To each their own, I guess.

Opalka said:

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justnobody79 said:

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I think you are giving Barry and Big Mike too much credit. They were merely puppets. Barry in more ways than one.

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Now conservatives are saying that Obama is the puppet master for Biden. The conspiracy silliness never stops.

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It's called an organizational chart.

Seems like a lot of democrats have used IVF, but only 2.5% of the US population has used IVF.

What are the odds?

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Bearpitbull said:

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nortex97 said:

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I know this is unpopular but I still think Jimmy Carter takes the cake for biggest fraud in our history as an executive. He added to this by masquerading as some devout Christian which pisses me off more. Obama barely tried to hide his narcissism, at least.

Both are/were hateful men who should have never been in the Oval Office. Carter was so damn bad he couldn't even come close to a second term (Obama probably wouldn't have either but for the GOP's decision to basically forfeit in 2012), and they gave rise to two of our greatest presidents, respectively, in their reign of horrible, vile, terrible times in office.

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So Jimmy is a fake Christian, but you think DJT is a man of faith? Ok, sure. Interesting way you define the faith.

Also, you don't like Jimmy because he was "hateful" man but you love Trump?

Jimmy Carter was a bad President because he was bad at the job. Smart guy but not a leader. Kind man but way too naive. Rs lose elections because we default to this weird "my guy is more Christian than your guy talk" when it is pretty obviously not so. We cannot really see into a man's soul and we look like Karens and losers trying. Just kick the oppositions ass on policy. Dems default to thinking the Govt can/must fix everything. While we are turning into Trump's whining, boycotting, protesting army, the Dems are trying to wrestle the concept of freedom from us. That is absurd but will work because we look like a bunch of old ladies.

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oh look - the true conservative CM has shown up with his TDS again. Looks like he got his feelings hurt because folks were talking about true hero

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Trump goalie, spending 50% of his day trying to convince himself that Trump is actually a conservative and the other half of his day explaining what Trump "really met", trying to jump in to convo.

Please let me know if it is Jimma or Barry. I cannot wait to hear. Don't forget to run this through your "If they don't cult worship the guy who keeps losing, they must support a lib somewhere" filter. I love watching dummies rationalize.

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Why do they live in Martha's Vineyard?

Why do they live in Martha's Vineyard after dividing the country over lies?

Why don't they live in Chicago anymore?

The real reason people are afraid of going to school is because of the violent criminals Democrat judges and Democrat prosecutors have released on the streets to harm the hardworking law abiding students and teachers.

A young man in Chicago was murdered coming back from culinary school for his cell phone. You can watch the whole video. Shot dead in cold blood for a cell phone. You can hear him scream and struggle during the last seconds of his life.

Obama did more damage to the country than any president in US history.

Crime data from the government shows how much of a lie the whole Obama presidency was, and how false his divisive lies were.

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Sorry, but Trump's damage set a new record.

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He'll go down as one of the greatest political operatives of our time: 3 term president with a potential for four, pushed out a potato, orchestrated the weaponization of government against an opponent. Never seen anything like it.

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And nevertheless, the Obamas are immensely popular in general. It's a huge reason I have no confidence in anything reversing course or getting fixed at all. The people are just too hopelessly stupid and will cheer on their own destruction.

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I think people are waking up, but the fraud in our elections makes it look like they are not.. The evidence where I live, I see many younger people walking around with Trump shirts/ hats, etc and not catching any crap from the TDS types, and generally, not giving a crap what people think..In 2016 and 2020, people were absolutely losing their minds over anyone promoting Trump...

Everyone is feeling the crunch from the economy, and most people know this crap has to change.