Vidor isn't on the list???

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One shot in crossfire leaving a graduation ceremony at the Alamodome.
Another beat to death outside a bar. This one has not gotten much attention but I know about it because friends who used to work at the DAs office have been keeping up with it.

There is an LA Fitness about 2 miles from our house. Two murders there in last 2 years. One seemed to be a hit as a guy walked in with a gun, stood behind a guy on a treadmill and shot him in back of head.

Year and half ago an 80 year old man was carjacked in my FIL's neighborhood and beaten to death with a bat. All 3 of the bad guys were 15-16 years old. Happened about 2 blocks from FIL's house. And this is a nice neighborhood off Bitters. Bruce Bowen is the one who found the 80 yo laying in the street.

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Lady caught in the crossfire sucks. That wasn't a targeted murder though. I get it, she's dead nonetheless but those type of senseless things happen in any big city.
Dude beat to death on the river walk? That's gotta be targeted or else we'd all have heard about it.

I'm aware of the LA fitness deal. That was clearly a hit and not random. I was unaware that there was another murder there. What are the details on that?
I live just down the road from where the old man was carjacked, so I'm very aware of that too. That was really the only one that really got my hackles up….thugs from the bad part of town coming up to the good side to do bad things. When I think of "most dangerous cities" it's THAT kind of crime I think of.

how is it that jurisdictions can just decide NOT TO REPORT

like literally- how is that possible?!

The second murder at LA Fitness, if memory serves me, is an employee intervened when a pissed off boyfriend and girlfriend got into it in the gym. When employee leaves after work BF is waiting for him. I think he was shot but don't remember for sure.

That one happened just a few months before the hit inside LA Fitness.

The one beat to death got drunk, wandered out into the street and ran into a group of 4 or 5 who rolled him (way too hard as he ended up dead) and robbed him. Probably happened 18 months ago.

The lady caught in the crossfire was leaving her grandson's high school graduation. A shootout on Durango close to where the John Wood Federal Courthouse is. I think she was walking to her car, with family, but might have been in a car already. Happened in May.

Not touristy, but my FIL who lives off Bitters has 24 hour care now. The woman who stays nights with him had a grandson murdered right before Christmas. Apparently a good friend shot him in his front yard. That one got tv time. No explanation for the killing. His grandmother is very nice. I haven't asked her any details.

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how is it that jurisdictions can just decide NOT TO REPORT

like literally- how is that possible?!

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There is a huge crime reporting problem in this country because around 40 percent of jurisdictions do not report crime. Here is the article that talks about it.

https://www.nssf.org/articles/america-has-a-crime-reporting-problem/?hilite=AMERICA+HAS+CRIME+REPORTING+PROBLEM

The federal government does not mandate it.

Until there is a Republican president again this problem will not get fixed.

AG Paxton released an executive order and a new rule that all jurisdictions and DAs must report all violent crime, homicides, and property crime.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/attorney-general-ken-paxton-proposes-new-rule-enhancing-district-attorney-reporting-requirements

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Democrats are dishonest in everything they do. It's shameful anyone buys their BS because we all suffer from their terrible policies.

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Just another democrat policy that results in more deaths among black people. But that's ok because it gives them the single white woman w/cats vote.

Bet $1,000 if Trump is elected those cities start reporting their "true" and maybe even inflated numbers so they can turn around and "point to the data" that Trump is the reason.

Book it.

I live in Springfield and feel 10 times more safe than when I lived in Houston or Dallas. I don't understand their placement at all.

Another bad one that I just remembered. In January or February I ran by the Walmart at Blanco and Wurzbach Pkwy to pick up something for my FIL. IT was a Saturday morning. About 2 hours after I leave Walmart a man is carjacked in the parking lot by 3 teens. Just taking his car isn't enough. A 13 year old bad guy shoots and kills the driver of the car that was jacked.

All this makes me think twice and then a third time about how I would react.

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Another bad one that I just remembered. In January or February I ran by the Walmart at Blanco and Wurzbach Pkwy to pick up something for my FIL. IT was a Saturday morning. About 2 hours after I leave Walmart a man is carjacked in the parking lot by 3 teens. Just taking his car isn't enough. A 13 year old bad guy shoots and kills the driver of the car that was jacked.

All this makes me think twice and then a third time about how I would react.

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Have you ever seen that video about the tow truck driver in San Francisco who dropped his tow device in traffic and attempted to back up under the occupied car behind him to steal it?







https://sfstandard.com/2024/04/11/downtown-san-francisco-viral-tow-truck-video/

I wonder how many times they have done this before and what they did with the bodies?

As far as I'm concerned, any shooting of a tow truck driver doing that would be justifiable self defense.

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Iowaggie said:

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For a long time, Memphis has been a candidate for the murder capitol for the same reason FedEx put their global headquarters there. It's a unique location for road, River and rail travel ( and now air).

There is a heritage of lawlessness in Memphis going back to at least prohibition and actually well before.




Take it from Frank Gurnsey. Gurnsey came from the small town of Weyauwega, Wisconsin for a temporary assignment when he was sent to Memphis. He was in for a culture shock.

In a letter to his fianc back home he mentioned a woman who abandoned a baby on the street. "The same evening they also found a man laying dead upon the walk, probably murdered," he wrote. "Robbery and murder are a frequent occurrence. It is not safe for a man to be on the street unless he is armed to the teeth."

"It seems the lowest and hardest cases of both sexes have flocked into the city."

The letter was sent in 1863.

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Very interesting stuff. I didn't know the history.

I was considering going there to see Graceland and the new Graceland hotel however after the Eliza Fletcher murder, rape, and kidnapping I have decided to not go probably ever.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-murder-eliza-fletcher-fall-memphis-law-order

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About once a week, I go by where the Fletcher kidnapping happened. A week after that, there was a guy who went on a shooting spree throughout the city. Graceland is not in a real nice part of Memphis, but in saying that, these cities want tourists, students, and business to travel there. Those places in most cities are relatively safe.

Based on stats, the University of Memphis campus would be considered safe or safer than any SEC campus, or at least the ones in Tennessee.
(Main reason to include that link is because the Memphis Theological Seminary report brings the LOLz)

The overwhelming majority of violent crime happens in the neighborhoods where people sleep, eat, drink, and party. (This is also why the U of Memphis has a lower crime # than most the SEC schools--they have fewer residential students as it is heavy commuter, and they are probably the only D1 FBS school to have their men's basketball and football play off campus)

I think among the OP's major points is the list is significantly skewed because of inaccurate reporting of crime in many of the worst places . Garbage in, garbage out.