Stuart Varney: "We can't shoot them down, can we?"
Me: You can with either an improved mod or full choke.

Probably paid for by Mayorkas.

Cant shoot them down because that is destroying government property.

I will never understand why it is illegal to shoot drones down if it is over your property and you are not endangering others, or if using 'less lethal' shot.

You know Stuart Varney????

if you shoot them down the CIA will be pissed.

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I will never understand why it is illegal to shoot drones down if it is over your property and you are not endangering others, or if using 'less lethal' shot.

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Feds define drones as an aircraft. A passenger jet and a drone are the same thing in the eyes of the law when it comes to shooting them down.

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I will never understand why it is illegal to shoot drones down if it is over your property and you are not endangering others, or if using 'less lethal' shot.

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Although I get your point, the bullet has to come down somewhere, right? I'm asking seriously. I don't know.

agaberto said:

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fixer said:

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I will never understand why it is illegal to shoot drones down if it is over your property and you are not endangering others, or if using 'less lethal' shot.

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Feds define drones as an aircraft. A passenger jet and a drone are the same thing in the eyes of the law when it comes to shooting them down.

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I appreciate the information.

But that is a really really dumb definition.

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I will never understand why it is illegal to shoot drones down if it is over your property and you are not endangering others, or if using 'less lethal' shot.

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Because it's illegal to shoot other people's property, and you don't own the airspace above your house.

Trump admin codified that dully into law btw..

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fixer said:

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I will never understand why it is illegal to shoot drones down if it is over your property and you are not endangering others, or if using 'less lethal' shot.

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Although I get your point, the bullet has to come down somewhere, right? I'm asking seriously. I don't know.

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Good point in a residential or commercial area. But we hunted dove many times right there along the river back in the day...don't have to worry about shotgun pellets raining back down...which is pretty much the only weapon that could shoot them down.

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fixer said:

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I will never understand why it is illegal to shoot drones down if it is over your property and you are not endangering others, or if using 'less lethal' shot.

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Although I get your point, the bullet has to come down somewhere, right? I'm asking seriously. I don't know.

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yes that is why i mentioned less lethal shot and not in a position to endanger others.

99.9% of drones aren't looking at you. You don't own the airspace above your property.

I realize it makes folks uncomfortable and acknowledge drone operators should be respectful when flying.

I was flying ($2k mavic) one night in my neighborhood trying to get some cool pictures of the lakes at dusk. Lady on the FB group posted a pic of my drone above her house and she was very upset that someone was "spying" on her.

I replied what I was doing and that I was flying at 350 feet and also had a FAA approved strobe for night flying (along with my navigation lights). If I was spying I would be at a lower altitude with zero lights. Also would not be spying on her old ass.

Ag_of_08 said:

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fixer said:

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I will never understand why it is illegal to shoot drones down if it is over your property and you are not endangering others, or if using 'less lethal' shot.

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Because it's illegal to shoot other people's property, and you don't own the airspace above your house.

Trump admin codified that dully into law btw..

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it isn't categorically illegal to shoot other people's property. ie a dog that is menacing you. Or if someone is using their car to run you over.

Similarly a drone should have no legitimate reason to be over your property unless you wanted it there or there is some sort of law enforcement action. Everything else is trespassing.

Since you aren't shooting a human being there should be substantially less legal barriers to protecting your own privacy.

And the air space above your house has reasonable limits as well.

for instance, my neighbor had a drone flying right by (I mean within inches) of his daughter's window.

I guess he doesn't even own the air space 4 ft off the ground.

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You know Stuart Varney????

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fixer said:

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Ag_of_08 said:

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fixer said:

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I will never understand why it is illegal to shoot drones down if it is over your property and you are not endangering others, or if using 'less lethal' shot.

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Because it's illegal to shoot other people's property, and you don't own the airspace above your house.

Trump admin codified that dully into law btw..

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it isn't categorically illegal to shoot other people's property. ie a dog that is menacing you. Or if someone is using their car to run you over.

Similarly a drone should have no legitimate reason to be over your property unless you wanted it there or there is some sort of law enforcement action. Everything else is trespassing.

Since you aren't shooting a human being there should be substantially less legal barriers to protecting your own privacy.

And the air space above your house has reasonable limits as well.

for instance, my neighbor had a drone flying right by (I mean within inches) of his daughter's window.

I guess he doesn't even own the air space 4 ft off the ground.

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This isn't as black and white as one things. Their are court cases the support both sides. If your drone is hoovering over a specific property for a long period of time, while your daughter is sunbathing, you might be able to shoot it down. On one hand, the FAA owns the airspace from ground up however, during the Cuba missile crises, the courts ruled that you could build antennas for your ham radio up to 200. I think the rules will evolve more clearly in the upcoming years.

The gov also has the ability to take out drones even if it doesn't have RID. Trust me on this one.

V8Aggie said:

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99.9% of drones aren't looking at you. You don't own the airspace above your property.

I realize it makes folks uncomfortable and acknowledge drone operators should be respectful when flying.

I was flying ($2k mavic) one night in my neighborhood trying to get some cool pictures of the lakes at dusk. Lady on the FB group posted a pic of my drone above her house and she was very upset that someone was "spying" on her.

I replied what I was doing and that I was flying at 350 feet and also had a FAA approved strobe for night flying (along with my navigation lights). If I was spying I would be at a lower altitude with zero lights. Also would not be spying on her old ass.

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Why does the cost of the drone you are flying matter? What am I missing here?

I am shocked

fixer said:

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I will never understand why it is illegal to shoot drones down if it is over your property and you are not endangering others, or if using 'less lethal' shot.

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Because they're aircraft and you don't own or control the airspace over your property. It's not hard to understand.

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V8Aggie said:

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99.9% of drones aren't looking at you. You don't own the airspace above your property.

I realize it makes folks uncomfortable and acknowledge drone operators should be respectful when flying.

I was flying ($2k mavic) one night in my neighborhood trying to get some cool pictures of the lakes at dusk. Lady on the FB group posted a pic of my drone above her house and she was very upset that someone was "spying" on her.

I replied what I was doing and that I was flying at 350 feet and also had a FAA approved strobe for night flying (along with my navigation lights). If I was spying I would be at a lower altitude with zero lights. Also would not be spying on her old ass.

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Why does the cost of the drone you are flying matter? What am I missing here?

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Some of them, even the small ones, are very expensive, and if you decide to destroy one because you unjustly and ignorantly take offense that they're doing something completely innocuous, you're going to have a really bad time and owe someone a lot of money.

So China is ramping up their proxy war against the US by supplying our enemy with not only narcotics/cash, they also send surveillance equipment. Actual arms & munitions is the next logical step.

Mayorkis and his bosses, Biden…and by extension Barry and Soros gotta love this news. Their plan for America is coming together nicely.

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Ag_of_08 said:

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I will never understand why it is illegal to shoot drones down if it is over your property and you are not endangering others, or if using 'less lethal' shot.

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Because it's illegal to shoot other people's property, and you don't own the airspace above your house.

Trump admin codified that dully into law btw..

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it isn't categorically illegal to shoot other people's property. ie a dog that is menacing you. Or if someone is using their car to run you over.

Similarly a drone should have no legitimate reason to be over your property unless you wanted it there or there is some sort of law enforcement action. Everything else is trespassing.

Since you aren't shooting a human being there should be substantially less legal barriers to protecting your own privacy.

And the air space above your house has reasonable limits as well.

for instance, my neighbor had a drone flying right by (I mean within inches) of his daughter's window.

I guess he doesn't even own the air space 4 ft off the ground.

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Shooting cartel drones is destroying government property ?

V8Aggie said:

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99.9% of drones aren't looking at you. You don't own the airspace above your property.

I realize it makes folks uncomfortable and acknowledge drone operators should be respectful when flying.

I was flying ($2k mavic) one night in my neighborhood trying to get some cool pictures of the lakes at dusk. Lady on the FB group posted a pic of my drone above her house and she was very upset that someone was "spying" on her.

I replied what I was doing and that I was flying at 350 feet and also had a FAA approved strobe for night flying (along with my navigation lights). If I was spying I would be at a lower altitude with zero lights. Also would not be spying on her old ass.

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nvm

ABATTBQ11 said:

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fixer said:

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I will never understand why it is illegal to shoot drones down if it is over your property and you are not endangering others, or if using 'less lethal' shot.

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Because they're aircraft and you don't own or control the airspace over your property. It's not hard to understand.

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Emerging technologies often require new etiquette and inspire new regulations / laws.

Flying a surveillance platform over someone's property is really tacky and it's obvious why it ticks folks off. Let's say you have a teenage daughter and a pool. You have a privacy fence but the pervert down the street just buys a drone and uses "legal airspace" to leer at your daughter.

There are valid reasons for reason folks to be uncomfortable with the aircraft/airspace explanations and want protections against this type of intrusion.

It's not so much "I don't understand" regarding the current law, but as in "the law should be changed."

I fully support people's right to fly drones and I also fully support people's right to shoot them down over their property.

Seems like there might be a profitable business in training hawks to attack drones and renting or selling them to people that have drone issues on their property. Falconry might make a comeback.

Drones overhead are definitely an invasion of privacy. Hopefully, the laws in the future apply some common sense. There's a difference in an aircraft flying over at a high altitude going to a destination and a plethora of hobbyists seeking attention.

halfastros81 said:

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Shooting cartel drones is destroying government property ?

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Yea, in some form or fashion the CIA funded that drone.

Ok, I follow now

AnScAggie said:

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Seems like there might be a profitable business in training hawks to attack drones and renting or selling them to people that have drone issues on their property. Falconry might make a comeback.

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You ever seen someone injured by a drone prop? This wouldn't work unless you taught falcons to fly upside down.

Jury trial would be expensive but worth it to shoot down a drone.

Maybe they can help the USSS at the next rally!

Was going to write a well thought out post but realized it was futile and folks prefer to just be stubbornly ignorant / internet tough guys.

Not worth the time.