How do you define the only two genders?

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Ags4DaWin
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hoopla said:

William Foster said:

hoopla said:


The pluming a person was born with? Pretty strait forward, in most cases.

A person's chromosomes? XX males are women and XY females are men?

Something else?
Straight forward, with extraordinarily rare/extreme genetic abnormalities. In which event, a person with XY who may basically be a female superhuman should not be able to pummel a genetically and physically inferior female to death in the spirit of sport. If that olympic fight kept going, the female fighter could have been in very rare danger. There is a reason the Algerian was not allowed to compete in other boxing associatios...SAFETY OF FEMALE COMPETITORS.

No too rare though.

It is estimated that 1.7% of the world population is intersex. That is a little over 138,000,000 people. A country with that size population would be in the top 10 most populous nations in the world.


Quoting this so you can't walk it back.

The actual dtatistic for xxy and xyy is slightly less than 1 in 1,000 for each.

That equates to .17%

Not 1.7%

That is a factor of 10 smaller than you claim.

And xxy and xyy people have a y chromosome which means their testosterone production is higher than females.


speaking as a biological sciences major and someone who works in healthcare and studied human development
Female is what the human body developes into from puberty onward in the absence of testosterone.

Which means that female is the genetic default for sexual development.

Which means that in order to compete in women's sports you would need to NOT have altered development- having testosterone altered development caused by the presence of a Y chromosome makes you male.

By extension if you have a Y chromosome you therefore would have developed different from females.

And therefore are not female.

Now we can quibble about how they have lower testosterone production than XY males....fair enough.

But not being as male as the normal XY individuals does not default you to female.
BusterAg
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Funky Winkerbean said:

Science defines it. Trust the science.
(Am I doing this right?)


If you were doing science right, you would do the math and show your work. Gone camping post is a good example.

AggieDub14
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Klinefelter syndrome. Some people are born with XXY.
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damiond
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it can not be a woman or man if god did not make it one at birth
B-1 83
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Solid B troll.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
JJxvi
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akm91 said:

How hard is to always categorize someone with Y chromosome as male for sports competition?


Super simple. Just have everyone who wants to compete in anything (or better yet, everybody) have their marrow drawn and register your genome with the world government. Vitally important to have it done in time before signing up for middle school volleyball.
GigEmForever
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If you want me to believe the science, then you have to admit there are only 2 genders.
X= female
Y= male
JJxvi
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Everybody has X
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hoopla said:

William Foster said:

hoopla said:


The pluming a person was born with? Pretty strait forward, in most cases.

A person's chromosomes? XX males are women and XY females are men?

Something else?
Straight forward, with extraordinarily rare/extreme genetic abnormalities. In which event, a person with XY who may basically be a female superhuman should not be able to pummel a genetically and physically inferior female to death in the spirit of sport. If that olympic fight kept going, the female fighter could have been in very rare danger. There is a reason the Algerian was not allowed to compete in other boxing associatios...SAFETY OF FEMALE COMPETITORS.

No too rare though.

It is estimated that 1.7% of the world population is intersex. That is a little over 138,000,000 people. A country with that size population would be in the top 10 most populous nations in the world.
"It is estimated that 1.7% of the world population is intersex."

Intersex is a "catch all" term that captures at least a dozen different disorders of sexual development, and there are really a very, very small number of people with xxy or xyy chromosomes, or with ambiguity in genitalia development. It's TINY.
SoyTanLento
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C@LAg said:


LOL. Trump was the original ****** trailblazer.
El Hombre Mas Guapo
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ImSoDumb said:

C@LAg said:


LOL. Trump was the original ****** trailblazer.



Beauty pageant isn't a sport. HTH.

But I also wouldn't have overruled.
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SoyTanLento
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You give progressives an inch, they take a mile. Trump gave them their inch and look at where we are at now, a person with male chromosomes punching a women in a female boxing event.
FrioAg 00
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hoopla said:


The pluming a person was born with? Pretty strait forward, in most cases.

A person's chromosomes? XX males are women and XY females are men?

Something else?



The natural plumbing and the chromosomes correlate perfectly.

In the extremely rare cases of chromosome abnormalities, they should not be competing as females in sports. They shouldn't benefit from an unfair genetic advantage over their competition.

The fact that anyone feels this is even debatable is fascinating
Urban Ag
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You have a real odd posting style.

300+ posts in about four years and you start a lot of threads. Pretty much all in support of the dems and leftist causes.

You seem to have quoted sources lined at the ready, almost like assigned talking points.

You ask conservatives a lot of question, almost like polling.

You average about one post per five days, so you're clearly not following the board daily. But you tend to show up for a day or two, start an OP, then disappear for a week maybe two.

A quick sampling shows you seem to post only during normal business hours.

No AgTag and you only post on POL.

I'm curious, who do you work for?

Old Army Ghost
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hoopla said:


The pluming a person was born with? Pretty strait forward, in most cases.

A person's chromosomes? XX males are women and XY females are men?

Something else?
whatever the cause of the day is defines it for me

gender is only a political tool to advance my extremist ideology

-leftists
Old Army has gone to hell.
Tard_85
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Urban Ag said:

You have a real odd posting style.

300+ posts in about four years and you start a lot of threads. Pretty much all in support of the dems and leftist causes.

You seem to have quoted sources lined at the ready, almost like assigned talking points.

You ask conservatives a lot of question, almost like polling.

You average about one post per five days, so you're clearly not following the board daily. But you tend to show up for a day or two, start an OP, then disappear for a week maybe two.

A quick sampling shows you seem to post only during normal business hours.

No AgTag and you only post on POL.

I'm curious, who do you work for?
Yep, always pay attention to posting history. As soon as a saw the OP user name I knew this thread would be a convoluted clown show pimping some sort of twisted, super low percentage BS to support some insane lefty position. In this case propaganda broadening the definition and scope of transgenderism.

BTW awesome poster analysis. Amazing what a little research and digging can reveal well done.
austinag1997
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zag213004 said:

austinag1997 said:

XX and XY. Everything else is a mental disease.


XXY or XXY is not a mental disease it is a genetic anomaly at the chromosome level. Like down syndrome is a genetic anomaly with a different chromosome pair. Let's not put trans-gender and intersex in the same category because they are not.

And no I'm not addressing whether or not this person should or should not compete I'm just addressing your specific comment: it is science that extra x or y chromasome is not related to the transgender (how you feel) issue. It is literally in that person's DNA


Fine. I had a brother with Down's Syndrome. Those chromosonal abnormalities are exceedingly rare. Like .17% exceedingly rare. The overwhelming population is XX and XY. I edited my original post accordingly.
BartInLA
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zag213004 said:

austinag1997 said:

XX and XY. Everything else is a mental disease.


XXY or XXY is not a mental disease it is a genetic anomaly at the chromosome level. Like down syndrome is a genetic anomaly with a different chromosome pair. Let's not put trans-gender and intersex in the same category because they are not.

And no I'm not addressing whether or not this person should or should not compete I'm just addressing your specific comment: it is science that extra x or y chromasome is not related to the transgender (how you feel) issue. It is literally in that person's DNA


I agree, and it gets a lot more complex than this, and a few cases such as the number of Testosterone receptors, but all of this aside, it is very unfair to women to have to compete in sports (The majority of those where muscle mass and lung capacity come into play) with those that have the biological advantages of maleness.
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