The pluming a person was born with? Pretty strait forward, in most cases.

A person's chromosomes? XX males are women and XY females are men?

Something else?

OP answered the question already.

Pretty straightforward. And yes, there is a pretty small percentage of people who do not fit neatly into one of two boxes. They should not be allowed to compete in the Olympics if it gives them an unfair advantage or is dangerous to other athletes. Get over it.

anybody have the kindergarten cop meme explaining it as a kindergartner?

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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anybody have the kindergarten cop meme explaining it as a kindergartner?

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That would not apply in the case of the Algerian and Taiwanese boxers.

You either have the capacity, were born with the capacity, or will develop the capacity to produce large or small gametes (eggs or sperm). That's it.

For the purposes of sports, any Y chromosome should put you in the "male" category.

End of story.

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You either have the capacity, were born with the capacity, or will develop the capacity to produce large or small gametes (eggs or sperm). That's it.

For the purposes of sports, any Y chromosome should put you in the "male" category.

End of story.

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Plus Juan.

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For the purposes of sports, any Y chromosome should put you in the "male" category.

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Do XX males get put into the "female" category?

hoopla said:

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Kool said:

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For the purposes of sports, any Y chromosome should put you in the "male" category.

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Do XX males get put into the "female" category?

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Yes, and they should all be fast-tracked as children to Olympic development programs to maximize a country's number of gold medals. Particular boxing.

hoopla said:

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Kool said:

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For the purposes of sports, any Y chromosome should put you in the "male" category.

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Do XX males get put into the "female" category?

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Only if they "feel" feminine that day.

XX and XY. Everything else is a mental disease or a chromosonal disorder.

A person is female if their overall biological organization carries the potential for generative capacity; that is, if they produce large gametes.


A person is male if their overall biological organization does not carry the potential for generative capacity; that is, if they produce small gametes.

All people are either male or female, and nobody is both. While there are EXCEEDINGLY rare cases when both genitalia are present, or when there is an xxy or xyy chromosomal disorder, there are no cases when someone produces both small and large gametes.

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XX and XY. Everything else is a mental disease.

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XXY or XXY is not a mental disease it is a genetic anomaly at the chromosome level. Like down syndrome is a genetic anomaly with a different chromosome pair. Let's not put trans-gender and intersex in the same category because they are not.

And no I'm not addressing whether or not this person should or should not compete I'm just addressing your specific comment: it is science that extra x or y chromasome is not related to the transgender (how you feel) issue. It is literally in that person's DNA

I feel like this is a trap to get posters banned.

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I feel like this is a trap to get posters banned.

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Incredibly high odds of this being the case. Weird account and post history for sure. Any account which starts topics to ask questions of this nature are suspect.

hoopla said:

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The pluming a person was born with? Pretty strait forward, in most cases.

A person's chromosomes? XX males are women and XY females are men?

Something else?

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Straight forward, with extraordinarily rare/extreme genetic abnormalities. In which event, a person with XY who may basically be a female superhuman should not be able to pummel a genetically and physically inferior female to death in the spirit of sport. If that olympic fight kept going, the female fighter could have been in very real danger. There is a reason the Algerian was not allowed to compete in other boxing associations...SAFETY OF FEMALE COMPETITORS.

Only liberals don't feel horrible for that female who trained her whole life and wanted to do this for her deceased father. I don't get sad over such stuff very often, but seeing her throw in the towel after likely having her nose broken and then crying and saying it wasn't fair made me genuinely sad, then angry.

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Pretty straightforward. And yes, there is a pretty small percentage of people who do not fit neatly into one of two boxes. They should not be allowed to compete in the Olympics if it gives them an unfair advantage or is dangerous to other athletes. Get over it.

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Pretty small? It can barely be measured it's so small.

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EOT

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hoopla said:

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The pluming a person was born with? Pretty strait forward, in most cases.

A person's chromosomes? XX males are women and XY females are men?

Something else?

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Straight forward, with extraordinarily rare/extreme genetic abnormalities. In which event, a person with XY who may basically be a female superhuman should not be able to pummel a genetically and physically inferior female to death in the spirit of sport. If that olympic fight kept going, the female fighter could have been in very rare danger. There is a reason the Algerian was not allowed to compete in other boxing associatios...SAFETY OF FEMALE COMPETITORS.

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No too rare though.

It is estimated that 1.7% of the world population is intersex. That is a little over 138,000,000 people. A country with that size population would be in the top 10 most populous nations in the world.

hoopla said:

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William Foster said:

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hoopla said:

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The pluming a person was born with? Pretty strait forward, in most cases.

A person's chromosomes? XX males are women and XY females are men?

Something else?

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Straight forward, with extraordinarily rare/extreme genetic abnormalities. In which event, a person with XY who may basically be a female superhuman should not be able to pummel a genetically and physically inferior female to death in the spirit of sport. If that olympic fight kept going, the female fighter could have been in very rare danger. There is a reason the Algerian was not allowed to compete in other boxing associatios...SAFETY OF FEMALE COMPETITORS.

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No too rare though.

It is estimated that 1.7% of the world population is intersex. That is a little over 138,000,000 people. A country with that size population would be in the top 10 most populous nations in the world.

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Not sure I believe that number, but regardless, I would imagine it's far more rare in sports competition.

So what is your recommendation? Let these genetic freaks with male structure and testosterone levels just brutally crush XX women? Makes you happy bc it makes normal traditional folks sad to see women get pulverized physically and have their dreams and decades of training shattered?

hoopla said:

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William Foster said:

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hoopla said:

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The pluming a person was born with? Pretty strait forward, in most cases.

A person's chromosomes? XX males are women and XY females are men?

Something else?

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Straight forward, with extraordinarily rare/extreme genetic abnormalities. In which event, a person with XY who may basically be a female superhuman should not be able to pummel a genetically and physically inferior female to death in the spirit of sport. If that olympic fight kept going, the female fighter could have been in very rare danger. There is a reason the Algerian was not allowed to compete in other boxing associatios...SAFETY OF FEMALE COMPETITORS.

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No too rare though.

It is estimated that 1.7% of the world population is intersex. That is a little over 138,000,000 people. A country with that size population would be in the top 10 most populous nations in the world.

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Perfect. If it's "not too rare" they can have their own special Olympics.

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hoopla said:

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William Foster said:

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hoopla said:

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The pluming a person was born with? Pretty strait forward, in most cases.

A person's chromosomes? XX males are women and XY females are men?

Something else?

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Straight forward, with extraordinarily rare/extreme genetic abnormalities. In which event, a person with XY who may basically be a female superhuman should not be able to pummel a genetically and physically inferior female to death in the spirit of sport. If that olympic fight kept going, the female fighter could have been in very rare danger. There is a reason the Algerian was not allowed to compete in other boxing associatios...SAFETY OF FEMALE COMPETITORS.

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No too rare though.

It is estimated that 1.7% of the world population is intersex. That is a little over 138,000,000 people. A country with that size population would be in the top 10 most populous nations in the world.

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Perfect. If it's "not too rare" they can have their own special Olympics.

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Good idea...or maybe even their own category at the normal Olympics. Anything but this.

Let me state the obvious.

Normal people don't need a definition, and they certainly don't need a discussion about definitions. They just know what a man and a woman are instinctively.

Only scientists and those that wish to confuse normalcy have a need to discuss the definitions.

How hard is to always categorize someone with Y chromosome as male for sports competition?

hoopla said:

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William Foster said:

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hoopla said:

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The pluming a person was born with? Pretty strait forward, in most cases.

A person's chromosomes? XX males are women and XY females are men?

Something else?

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Straight forward, with extraordinarily rare/extreme genetic abnormalities. In which event, a person with XY who may basically be a female superhuman should not be able to pummel a genetically and physically inferior female to death in the spirit of sport. If that olympic fight kept going, the female fighter could have been in very rare danger. There is a reason the Algerian was not allowed to compete in other boxing associatios...SAFETY OF FEMALE COMPETITORS.

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No too rare though.

It is estimated that 1.7% of the world population is intersex. That is a little over 138,000,000 people. A country with that size population would be in the top 10 most populous nations in the world.

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Anne Fausto-Sterling's suggestion that the prevalence of intersex might be as high as 1.7% has attracted wide attention in both the scholarly press and the popular media. Many reviewers are not aware that this figure includes conditions which most clinicians do not recognize as intersex, such as Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome, and late-onset adrenal hyperplasia. If the term intersex is to retain any meaning, the term should be restricted to those conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female. Applying this more precise definition, the true prevalence of intersex is seen to be about 0.018%, almost 100 times lower than Fausto-Sterling s estimate of 1.7%.
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Science defines it. Trust the science.
(Am I doing this right?)

One makes sperm.

One makes eggs.

Very simple.

Jesus said it best - "Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female." Matthew 19:4

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My exact thought when I saw the thread title...

Who knew that movie would be culturally relevant in such a way all these years later.

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How do you define the only two genders?

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As said.. We do not have to... God has defined them long before you asked the question.