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PLEASE STICK TO FACTS NOT NAME CALLING

Okay, I'm well aware of the allegations that Kamala slept her way into politics

But does anyone have an even-handed account of exactly what happened, and a timeline? I know my bias and what I'm inclined to believe, but I'd really like the straight story. What is she documented to have done, not just gossip Side issue, I'd like to know why her services to Willie Brown are always said to be oral

I'm also well aware of her nicknames, so leave those off.

I don't have much hope the thread will last, but I thought I would ask

Ben Shapiro did a two part series on her ascension a few weeks back. It's on Spotify. It covers the complete timeline.

Here's a fact - the link below is a "news organization" that is known for lying. Read this article and the opposite is true.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/07/kamala-harris-mother-dating-sexism-racism-republicans-vp-brown-williams.html

Another fact - she polled at 4% in 2020 primary. She is not likeable. Leftist sheep will follow whatever their Dem overlords tell them to, that's the only reason she has been elevated to the Dem nominee.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/article/sure-i-dated-kamala-harris-so-what-13562972.php

From Willie Brown himself, from the column referenced above in C@LAg's post.

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Yes, we dated. It was more than 20 years ago. Yes, I may have influenced her career by appointing her to two state commissions when I was Assembly speaker.

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This is why she catches the flack she gets. Brown screwed her and Harris screwed her way to advantage politically.

Thee's a graphic video of Brown on Twitter calling Kamala a ***** and laughing it up about sleeping with her. He was interviewing with someone who posted it as a tweet.

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A good point of comparison is the Clinton/Lewinsky relationship, culminating in a lucrative Pentagon position for Ms. Lewinsky.

In this case, Harris' contact with Brown yielded a much more lucrative and public return on her decision to intertwine herself with Brown than Lewinsky received from Bubba.

Imagine the response if a Republican did that. These are obvious cases of sexual harassment as one woman in the office is receiving advantage over others because she bedded the boss.

But nothing was ever done because the rules regarding sexual harassment rarely apply to Democrats. This is why Brown is quite honest about the fact he gave his girl advantageous positions.

According to the early life section on Wikipedia:

• Born Oct. 20, 1964 in Oakland, CA
• Circa 1970 - She was the little brown girl in the back of the bus in Oakland. (I added that from her Presidential Campaign in 2020 when she called Biden racist)
• Circa 1976 - Her single mom moved to Canada.
• 1982-1986 - She attended the HBCU Howard and furthered her "Black" credentials by joining the sorority Alpha Kappa Alpha (AKA). She also clerked for California Senator Alan Cranston.
• Law School graduated in 1989, was the President of the "Black Law Students Association" at University of California, Hastings College of the Law

After that, it was all San Francisco political machine

As to why she is the presumptive nominee, it comes down to all the money raised for Biden-Harris - nobody else as a nominee can touch it besides Biden or Harris - so the Dems were in a tough spot financially if they punted VP Round Heels, and in a doubly tough spot with Black voters if they dumped a semi-Black candidate for anybody else.

Honestly, I really can't comprehend her ascension. She's not a good public speaker. She doesn't seem to be very intelligent.

I honestly think she has ascended to where she is by being very very left in a very left part of a very left state. That got her to the senate with the backing of people who are on the far left who funded a whole lot of leftists in their campaigns.

And then Biden picked her only because she was a black woman who had made a name for herself by declaring her presidential candidacy not long after being a senator. Again, the only reason she was able to be a senator is because she was very far left in a very far left state financially supported by many on the very far left.

That's it. That's how she got to this point. She was Biden's DEI pick.

Thanks, that looks like a good refernce

I watched something the other day, and now google or DuckDuckGo aren't helpful in pulling it up, but it went something like this:

KH was in bed, literally, with Willie Brown. There were a lot of sexual misconduct allegations going around San Fran that involved VIPs, including clergy and political officials. The SF DA had done a lot of investigation and had a lot of evidence, can't remember if he had subpoenaed anybody in the case at the time of his reelection.

Willie backs KH to run for SF DA, where she won. Apparently all documents surrounding the sexual abuse cases were mothballed never to be seen again.

I'll keep looking for the link, but that story has apparently been buried in the search engines.

Staff, you can take this down, but don't ban me. This is a factual account of my recollection from viewing a news story, I'll keep trying to find the link.

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Sorry for those who got banned, but I guess you don't know my politics. If you did, you'd knowthat I don't need to be told what a disaster Cackles would be.

Don't catch a ban by confirming my bias.

Help me make sure I understand her back story. Do it without slurs If it is bad as I assume, the facts willbe damning enough

Like the people voting Trump really care who a politician sleeps with.

The attacks on Harris and name calling for her past relationships is just low class at this point and a bunch of hypocrites. She was the VP and now is the Dem nominee. She's played her political cards right to gain power. We know Democratic voters are idiots who elect liars and cheats and other idiots out of ignorance. I think the other poster was right who said just being an extreme lefty in a lefty state is how she rose.

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[The OP has made a clear request. Please respect it and engage accordingly -- Staff]

PLEASE STICK TO FACTS NOT NAME CALLING

Okay, I'm well aware of the allegations that Kamala slept her way into politics

But does anyone have an even-handed account of exactly what happened, and a timeline? I know my bias and what I'm inclined to believe, but I'd really like the straight story. What is she documented to have done, not just gossip Side issue, I'd like to know why her services to Willie Brown are always said to be oral

I'm also well aware of her nicknames, so leave those off.

I don't have much hope the thread will last, but I thought I would ask

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Separated is still married. They just aren't living together.

Dailywire's "Scamala" does a good job showing and explaining the timeline of Harris' improbable ascension .

She was picked years ago

Dave Chappelle talks about giving a show in San Fran years ago before Obama was even a thing and Kamala was there.

Kamala had Hillary's entire staff run her campaign and until Tulsi upset the apple cart she was the chosen one.

Which means she's probably the absolute worst person we could have run the the country.

It's my understanding that she chose her relationship with Brown carefully. Not only was he "separated " from his wife, but he held the keys to upward mobility in the California Democrat machine. It was his endorsement of her that propelled her to the next level, and without it, she's a nobody.

Ambitious young women uses her looks and sex to move up the career ladder

In other breaking news
Water is wet &
there are parts of Houston you shouldn't walk alone at night in

Judge Joe Brown on Kamala……
https://www.tiktok.com/@kdotkinte13/video/7394358420989660458

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Like the people voting Trump really care who a politician sleeps with.

The attacks on Harris and name calling for her past relationships is just low class at this point and a bunch of hypocrites. She was the VP and now is the Dem nominee. She's played her political cards right to gain power. We know Democratic voters are idiots who elect liars and cheats and other idiots out of ignorance. I think the other poster was right who said just being an extreme lefty in a lefty state is how she rose.

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She was smart enough to have played her cards to make it the 2nd highest political seat in the nation and run for the highest......Calling her stupid is extremely short sighted. At a minimum, she's savvy and street smart.

Call her a terrible public speaker, call her cringe, call her unlikeable (all of those things are true) and whatever names you want, but she's proven that she's capable of navigating her way to the top.

Don't get me wrong, she'd be a disaster of a President and will win only the bluest of blue states. Just pointing out that this woman has a better resume than pretty much everyone we will all meet in our lifetimes. It takes more than just a sexual favor to do that.

She ascended to the VP seat by being the least popular of a large field of Democrat candidates for the Presidential nomination in 2020 and then being selected by Biden as his running mate

OP, it's not at all clear to me what "factual" insights you expect this board to provide for you. I don't think any posters here are inside the machine of democratic power brokering. To be quite frank I'm not even sure why it maters. She's not some new to national politics entity. She has been the VP of this administration for 3 1/2 years. Unless she distances herself from the policies she's been a part of you should expect more of the same

Did she benefit from personal connections, including those she may/may not have slept with? Probably, most people will walk through doors that are open to them. Did she have an easy time in elections as a biracial woman in a blue state like California? Most certainly.

However, you have a person who has risen in stature and power by winning elections at the local, state and national level. In general, I don't think that is a bad thing. I believe someone seeking higher office needs to prove themselves first.

It is fair to criticize her for her politics and her policies, but I would call her path from deputy district attorney to senator legitimate. Remember, she was repeatedly elected in California. And her demographics certainly didn't hurt her.

I also think it is fair to call her selection as VP a DEI hire, especially view in light of how her 2020 presidential campaign flopped.

a book on Harris' ascension that's been on sell for 3 years was recently removed from Amazon. In the link below its author describes her path, and also the friction between HRC and Obama.
I've been chiming in here for a few weeks saying Harris is team-Hillary, which she is. She will have unlimited support.
If you want to hear the author of this banned book explain her ascent a little bit, go to the 32 min mark. "her father was a marxist economist, taught at Stanford..." " she was groomed and selected by Clinton"

https://rumble.com/v58b06b-amazon-removes-books-critical-of-kamala-harris.html?e9s=rel_v1_a

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Like the people voting Trump really care who a politician sleeps with.

The attacks on Harris and name calling for her past relationships is just low class at this point and a bunch of hypocrites. She was the VP and now is the Dem nominee. She's played her political cards right to gain power. We know Democratic voters are idiots who elect liars and cheats and other idiots out of ignorance. I think the other poster was right who said just being an extreme lefty in a lefty state is how she rose.

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It's really more an attempt to explain how someone that is as obviously lacking in native intelligence as she is could rise to the position that she has.

She is a heartbeat away from being the leader of the Western World, and is currently running for that position herself. Yet she does not seem to have the capabilities fit for the appointed offices Willie Brown gave her, much less AG of California and certainly not POTUS.

But here she is.

Harris had DEI assets before DEI was a thing.

I don't know how much digging really needs to be done.

Willie Brown is over 30 years older than her. No woman in the history of women sleeping with older men is doing so for any other reason than wealth and favor. That's it. The end.

And given the fact that she's never had a kid and didn't get married until she was pushing 50, it's just not a reach that she used her assets to get ahead. God knows that doesn't include her brain.

Posted on the DEI thread, but seems relevant:

Let's recap her "career" and what happened. This very much was a coup orchestrated by her old friend, Obama.

Obama never liked Biden who was forced upon him. They made up some excuse in 2016 about Biden and manipulated the primaries to get Hillary the nomination. Now Kamala is different. They go way back. Even before Obama was in the senate. She campaigned for him as the DA, and he fundraised for her to help with some campaign debts.

Behind the scenes, he can control her. He led the coup to get Biden out. For Obama, it's easier to get his "3rd-term" with her. Remember the speech Obama gave to Colbert back in 2020? How Obama wished he could make "an arrangement" where he had a stand-in, or front-man while he pulled the strings? They say the quiet part out loud.

Willie Brown admits he propped her up. Look at the timeline of her being a corrupt prosecutor. At the time, the current AG was aggressively targeting several of WB's friends. She then drops ALL of those cases. Remember the guy selling faulty concrete to the city to build parking garages? Close friend of WB. Seems kind of important. Dropped. This is just one example.

Or as CA AG, she avoids cases against her new husband's clients that her staff was trying to pursue. Or going hard after other groups like labor unions, etc in exchange for favors for her and her political friends. She embodies the weaponization of the justice system. Then we have hiding exculpatory evidence, using inmates as essentially slave labor for the state. The list goes on.

Then she runs. Tulsi guts her like a fish on the debate stage. Her campaign crumbles. She gets less than 1% of the vote and drops out. And THIS is what makes her eligible for VP? If she's so qualified and a great candidate, why was she so wildly unpopular among her own voter base? Why did she have some of the lowest approval ratings for a VP......ever.

But racism.....

bmks270 said:

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Like the people voting Trump really care who a politician sleeps with.

The attacks on Harris and name calling for her past relationships is just low class at this point and a bunch of hypocrites.

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It's not about who she sleeps with. It's about using sex to advance herself above more qualified candidates.

Trump can't keep his pants zipped. But that doesn't advance him in business or politics.

We have had several Presidents in the last 100 years who had high morals. I seem to recall the left savagely attacked many of them, even calling one a wimp

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Why is Staff so all-over this thread? If someone comes in and tries to derail the topic, let the posters decide on whether to Flag that post and have it removed. We don't need Big Brother standing guard like this.

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In this case, maybe it's because I specifically asked it not be derailed into sexual slurs and jokes. And maybe because any thread that REALLY attacks her on a sexual basis would turn into a flame war in seconds

I appreciate the attempt to get better informed, and am encouraged so many conservatives good-faith interactions with the OP. That's how I'd expect Aggies to actually behave rather than the dookie slinging most threads experience.

hitting Harris on her personal life or going down the DEI talking points is how Trump can lose this election. I have faith in Americans and I truly believe a large majority of us are tired of the trash talking and bashing. You want a solid Trump win, stick to the issues. That's the path to garnering middle to middle-left support.