Lots of non-establishment dems outside MSM being critical of the rush lately. Not really any legit reason to push for Aug 1-7 roll call, when you can do the same thing at convention couple weeks later. Maybe it's a precautionary measure, incase there is a challenge/controversy, they will have more time to resolve.

DNC should be releasing the role call process tmrw. So if the topic makes it into the MSM, it will be interesting to see how Dems justify the early vote, and dismiss "coronation" at the same time.

Less than 2 weeks for staffer leaks, some other scandal to surface, or someone with 300 delegate sigs to throw hat in. Virtually no chance that dem voters demand pivoting to open convention, they are total clueless NPCs. BUT, still a small outside chance this overly aggressive promotion of Kamala sparks a call from "the people" for an open convention.

In meantime, GOP should call harder for resignation and force dems, media, Kamala to argue Biden is fit to serve out term. That will put pressure on Biden to prove it, which lead to more Biden embarrassment for Kamala and party.

The Brandon & Harris Campaign has +$250M in it's coffers plus Harris raised another +$100M in the last few days. The Dems/Libs do not want to let that +$350M go. So Harris is being rammed thru as the nominee.

I would not be surprised if a lot of that money quickly evaporates and ends up in Dem pockets.

Maybe. Or maybe BLM is getting paid to plant the seed of open convention. Virtue signaling white libs will hop on the BLM train in no time. If BLM argue for open selection process, it's no longer racist! Yay!

Don Peebles said to not believe what the Dems say about the money they are raising. Paraphrasing he said it's a shell game.

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Lots of non-establishment dems outside MSM being critical of the rush lately. Not really any legit reason to push for Aug 1-7 roll call, when you can do the same thing at convention couple weeks later. Maybe it's a precautionary measure, incase there is a challenge/controversy, they will have more time to resolve.

DNC should be releasing the role call process tmrw. So if the topic makes it into the MSM, it will be interesting to see how Dems justify the early vote, and dismiss "coronation" at the same time.

Less than 2 weeks for staffer leaks, some other scandal to surface, or someone with 300 delegate sigs to throw hat in. Virtually no chance that dem voters demand pivoting to open convention, they are total clueless NPCs. BUT, still a small outside chance this overly aggressive promotion of Kamala sparks a call from "the people" for an open convention.

In meantime, GOP should call harder for resignation and force dems, media, Kamala to argue Biden is fit to serve out term. That will put pressure on Biden to prove it, which lead to more Biden embarrassment for Kamala and party.

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Guarantee that if they waited past August 7th, Republicans would file suit saying the deadline was illegally or unfairly changed. So far enough regular delegates have pledged to support Harris that a second round of voting would not be needed. Practically speaking there just isn't enough time to look at someone else. Is Kamala my ideal candidate for Democrats? No not really. But the most important thing is to unite around a candidate as soon as possible. There isn't time to waste if they want to have a chance at winning this fall. Waiting till the full convention limits the ability to start campaigning and getting their message out. The sooner they come to together around a candidate, the better.

DNC has already proven they can move quick to change rules and deadlines as needed. If GOP wants to try to litigate how the dems conduct biz it will be futile and show weakness.

I think people are underestimating the undercurrent from BLM and others about the rushed process being overtly "top down".

You are right dems have to all unite. They did around a horrible candidate in Biden, then a less horrible candidate in Kamala....so its still a possibility they will do it again at the convention with a better candidate.

If they stick with Kamala, they are basically conceding 2024 to live to fight in 2028. If they want to beat Trump, they have to hot swap once more.

The early august roll call vote is iirc for ballot access in Ohio
The names need to be submitted to the SOS 90 days prior to the election

Contested Primaries usually don't help the party and only result in large amounts of donor cash being spent for very little practical impact

Given that primaries are usually over after less than 6 states have cast their ballot not sure why anyone would think the preserving the sanctity of the primary process is important

What a candidate says, pledges, campaigns on is really not that important.

Candidates say what is needed to win the primary which is what the wings of the party want to hear then say what appeals to the mushy middle for the general election

Back to the money issue how many millions got spent by DeSantis in his bid to unseat Trump

The BLM , Bernie Bros, Climate Change Believers etc are all just mad they missed an opportunity to grift. Because in Contested primaries all these guys get paid to do some consulting.
I have seen some mind boggling estimates about how much money gets pumped in Iowa & NH once every four years

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The early august roll call vote is iirc for ballot access in Ohio

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They already changed the date. I guess the narrative is that dems are "worried" the change might not hold up to litigation. But dems have pulled much worse shenanigans, with no challenge. Look what they did to Bernie, and now RFK. Never once did GOP or courts intervene.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2024/07/19/ohio-dems-wary-of-deadline-confusion-push-for-early-biden-virtual-vote/74467795007/
"This spring, Ohio lawmakers changed the state's deadline to make the ballot from Aug. 7 to Sept. 1 because Democrats scheduled their convention to nominate Biden for 12 days after the initial deadline. To ensure Biden made the ballot, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine called the GOP-controlled Legislature into a special session."

Bump. Haven't seen any news coming out of DNC on process for roll call. All we keep hearing is Kamala isn't going to announce VP pick until Aug 7, which is target date to complete formal virtual delegate nomination.

I would expect some sort of formal PR prior to Aug 1 when it's expected to start. I know the entirety of media and F16 have all accepted Kamala as nominee, but there is still a lot that can happen. If staffer leaks and BLM criticism ramps up over weekend, they could scrap the role call to give the "people" more "transparency" in a more "democratic process". Then, open convention in back half of August.

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The Brandon & Harris Campaign has +$250M in it's coffers plus Harris raised another +$100M in the last few days. The Dems/Libs do not want to let that +$350M go. So Harris is being rammed thru as the nominee.

I would not be surprised if a lot of that money quickly evaporates and ends up in Dem pockets.

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Or is used to pay their legal defense fees!

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BlueTaze said:

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Lots of non-establishment dems outside MSM being critical of the rush lately. Not really any legit reason to push for Aug 1-7 roll call, when you can do the same thing at convention couple weeks later. Maybe it's a precautionary measure, incase there is a challenge/controversy, they will have more time to resolve.

DNC should be releasing the role call process tmrw. So if the topic makes it into the MSM, it will be interesting to see how Dems justify the early vote, and dismiss "coronation" at the same time.

Less than 2 weeks for staffer leaks, some other scandal to surface, or someone with 300 delegate sigs to throw hat in. Virtually no chance that dem voters demand pivoting to open convention, they are total clueless NPCs. BUT, still a small outside chance this overly aggressive promotion of Kamala sparks a call from "the people" for an open convention.

In meantime, GOP should call harder for resignation and force dems, media, Kamala to argue Biden is fit to serve out term. That will put pressure on Biden to prove it, which lead to more Biden embarrassment for Kamala and party.

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Guarantee that if they waited past August 7th, Republicans would file suit saying the deadline was illegally or unfairly changed. So far enough regular delegates have pledged to support Harris that a second round of voting would not be needed. Practically speaking there just isn't enough time to look at someone else. Is Kamala my ideal candidate for Democrats? No not really. But the most important thing is to unite around a candidate as soon as possible. There isn't time to waste if they want to have a chance at winning this fall. Waiting till the full convention limits the ability to start campaigning and getting their message out. The sooner they come to together around a candidate, the better.

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Even if that candidate will be a disaster of a president in the most perilous times since WW2. Such a brilliant strategy for "The Party'. The country be damned.

Its all about the Party. They even sound like communist these days.

One thing is certain.

No matter what rule, law or tradition the Dems break, they will never, ever be held accountable in any way.

They are what for decades they claimed to hate. Fascists.

The money can transfer to a Super PAC, and then be used to run ads for official nominee. The other more campaign specific expenses like staff, travel, security etc could easily be funded by new donor flows. Also, no issues with ballot names as long as they finalize a nominee in Aug.

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One thing is certain.

No matter what rule, law or tradition the Dems break, they will never, ever be held accountable in any way.

They are what for decades they claimed to hate. Fascists.

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Totally and all of the ones that get convicted of felonies by Biden's own justice department will just get pardons or Garland will choose not to sentence. Oh wait…

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BlueTaze said:

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Lots of non-establishment dems outside MSM being critical of the rush lately. Not really any legit reason to push for Aug 1-7 roll call, when you can do the same thing at convention couple weeks later. Maybe it's a precautionary measure, incase there is a challenge/controversy, they will have more time to resolve.

DNC should be releasing the role call process tmrw. So if the topic makes it into the MSM, it will be interesting to see how Dems justify the early vote, and dismiss "coronation" at the same time.

Less than 2 weeks for staffer leaks, some other scandal to surface, or someone with 300 delegate sigs to throw hat in. Virtually no chance that dem voters demand pivoting to open convention, they are total clueless NPCs. BUT, still a small outside chance this overly aggressive promotion of Kamala sparks a call from "the people" for an open convention.

In meantime, GOP should call harder for resignation and force dems, media, Kamala to argue Biden is fit to serve out term. That will put pressure on Biden to prove it, which lead to more Biden embarrassment for Kamala and party.

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Guarantee that if they waited past August 7th, Republicans would file suit saying the deadline was illegally or unfairly changed. So far enough regular delegates have pledged to support Harris that a second round of voting would not be needed. Practically speaking there just isn't enough time to look at someone else. Is Kamala my ideal candidate for Democrats? No not really. But the most important thing is to unite around a candidate as soon as possible. There isn't time to waste if they want to have a chance at winning this fall. Waiting till the full convention limits the ability to start campaigning and getting their message out. The sooner they come to together around a candidate, the better.

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Even if that candidate will be a disaster of a president in the most perilous times since WW2. Such a brilliant strategy for "The Party'. The country be damned.

Its all about the Party. They even sound like communist these days.

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And Republicans aren't doing the same thing? So many people have posted on this board how they don't like Trump or are Desantis backers, or will hold their nose and pull the lever for Trump in order to keep Democrats out of power. And I'm sure you realize that the very same things you are thinking about Harris, people are saying about Trump.

It appears you haven't realized how the game of politics is played now. I don't think Biden was the best president nor do I think Kamala is going to be a whole lot better. But I am sure as hell not going to vote for Trump and I'm going to do everything I legally can to ensure a Democrat wins in November.

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Maybe. Or maybe BLM is getting paid to plant the seed of open convention. Virtue signaling white libs will hop on the BLM train in no time. If BLM argue for open selection process, it's no longer racist! Yay!

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Where did you find that pic of the 18,000 individual small donors to kamala?

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And I'm sure you realize that the very same things you are thinking about Harris, people are saying about Trump.

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People are calling Trump an illiterate c u next Tuesday!?

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ttu_85 said:

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nai06 said:

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BlueTaze said:

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Lots of non-establishment dems outside MSM being critical of the rush lately. Not really any legit reason to push for Aug 1-7 roll call, when you can do the same thing at convention couple weeks later. Maybe it's a precautionary measure, incase there is a challenge/controversy, they will have more time to resolve.

DNC should be releasing the role call process tmrw. So if the topic makes it into the MSM, it will be interesting to see how Dems justify the early vote, and dismiss "coronation" at the same time.

Less than 2 weeks for staffer leaks, some other scandal to surface, or someone with 300 delegate sigs to throw hat in. Virtually no chance that dem voters demand pivoting to open convention, they are total clueless NPCs. BUT, still a small outside chance this overly aggressive promotion of Kamala sparks a call from "the people" for an open convention.

In meantime, GOP should call harder for resignation and force dems, media, Kamala to argue Biden is fit to serve out term. That will put pressure on Biden to prove it, which lead to more Biden embarrassment for Kamala and party.

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Guarantee that if they waited past August 7th, Republicans would file suit saying the deadline was illegally or unfairly changed. So far enough regular delegates have pledged to support Harris that a second round of voting would not be needed. Practically speaking there just isn't enough time to look at someone else. Is Kamala my ideal candidate for Democrats? No not really. But the most important thing is to unite around a candidate as soon as possible. There isn't time to waste if they want to have a chance at winning this fall. Waiting till the full convention limits the ability to start campaigning and getting their message out. The sooner they come to together around a candidate, the better.

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Even if that candidate will be a disaster of a president in the most perilous times since WW2. Such a brilliant strategy for "The Party'. The country be damned.

Its all about the Party. They even sound like communist these days.

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And Republicans aren't doing the same thing? So many people have posted on this board how they don't like Trump or are Desantis backers, or will hold their nose and pull the lever for Trump in order to keep Democrats out of power. And I'm sure you realize that the very same things you are thinking about Harris, people are saying about Trump.

It appears you haven't realized how the game of politics is played now. I don't think Biden was the best president nor do I think Kamala is going to be a whole lot better. But I am sure as hell not going to vote for Trump and I'm going to do everything I legally can to ensure a Democrat wins in November.

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Said like a true Swifty. The difference is Trump is not a Socialist. Try less soy.

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nai06 said:

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ttu_85 said:

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nai06 said:

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BlueTaze said:

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Lots of non-establishment dems outside MSM being critical of the rush lately. Not really any legit reason to push for Aug 1-7 roll call, when you can do the same thing at convention couple weeks later. Maybe it's a precautionary measure, incase there is a challenge/controversy, they will have more time to resolve.

DNC should be releasing the role call process tmrw. So if the topic makes it into the MSM, it will be interesting to see how Dems justify the early vote, and dismiss "coronation" at the same time.

Less than 2 weeks for staffer leaks, some other scandal to surface, or someone with 300 delegate sigs to throw hat in. Virtually no chance that dem voters demand pivoting to open convention, they are total clueless NPCs. BUT, still a small outside chance this overly aggressive promotion of Kamala sparks a call from "the people" for an open convention.

In meantime, GOP should call harder for resignation and force dems, media, Kamala to argue Biden is fit to serve out term. That will put pressure on Biden to prove it, which lead to more Biden embarrassment for Kamala and party.

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Guarantee that if they waited past August 7th, Republicans would file suit saying the deadline was illegally or unfairly changed. So far enough regular delegates have pledged to support Harris that a second round of voting would not be needed. Practically speaking there just isn't enough time to look at someone else. Is Kamala my ideal candidate for Democrats? No not really. But the most important thing is to unite around a candidate as soon as possible. There isn't time to waste if they want to have a chance at winning this fall. Waiting till the full convention limits the ability to start campaigning and getting their message out. The sooner they come to together around a candidate, the better.

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Even if that candidate will be a disaster of a president in the most perilous times since WW2. Such a brilliant strategy for "The Party'. The country be damned.

Its all about the Party. They even sound like communist these days.

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And Republicans aren't doing the same thing? So many people have posted on this board how they don't like Trump or are Desantis backers, or will hold their nose and pull the lever for Trump in order to keep Democrats out of power. And I'm sure you realize that the very same things you are thinking about Harris, people are saying about Trump.

It appears you haven't realized how the game of politics is played now. I don't think Biden was the best president nor do I think Kamala is going to be a whole lot better. But I am sure as hell not going to vote for Trump and I'm going to do everything I legally can to ensure a Democrat wins in November.

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Said like a true Swifty. The difference is Trump is not a Socialist. Try less soy.

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What an utterly predictable response.

It's like the default is to attack masculinity because that seems to be the one thing conservative men care so deeply about to their core that it becomes the highest form of insult.

Brace yourself, but I along with a **** load of other men don't care if you attack my masculinity. Aside from being pretty confident I have a healthy level of good self esteem.

Here I'll even help you out. I think Taylor Swift is great. She is one hell of a live performer who puts on an extremely entertaining show that most musicians and artists would struggle to complete. She also one of the best singer song writers out there.

Also tofu ain't half bad. I really like it in a good pad Thai.

Pushing Biden out is a HORRIBLE idea. Then Kamala takes over and we have a hurricane or some kind of crisis and she doesn't look like a complete idiot and now we are stuck with her for 4 years. That is idiocy.

Better to slam her on the border and Harris & Dems for lying about Biden's mental accuity for 3 years

nai06 said:

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e=mc2 said:

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nai06 said:

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ttu_85 said:

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nai06 said:

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BlueTaze said:

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Lots of non-establishment dems outside MSM being critical of the rush lately. Not really any legit reason to push for Aug 1-7 roll call, when you can do the same thing at convention couple weeks later. Maybe it's a precautionary measure, incase there is a challenge/controversy, they will have more time to resolve.

DNC should be releasing the role call process tmrw. So if the topic makes it into the MSM, it will be interesting to see how Dems justify the early vote, and dismiss "coronation" at the same time.

Less than 2 weeks for staffer leaks, some other scandal to surface, or someone with 300 delegate sigs to throw hat in. Virtually no chance that dem voters demand pivoting to open convention, they are total clueless NPCs. BUT, still a small outside chance this overly aggressive promotion of Kamala sparks a call from "the people" for an open convention.

In meantime, GOP should call harder for resignation and force dems, media, Kamala to argue Biden is fit to serve out term. That will put pressure on Biden to prove it, which lead to more Biden embarrassment for Kamala and party.

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Guarantee that if they waited past August 7th, Republicans would file suit saying the deadline was illegally or unfairly changed. So far enough regular delegates have pledged to support Harris that a second round of voting would not be needed. Practically speaking there just isn't enough time to look at someone else. Is Kamala my ideal candidate for Democrats? No not really. But the most important thing is to unite around a candidate as soon as possible. There isn't time to waste if they want to have a chance at winning this fall. Waiting till the full convention limits the ability to start campaigning and getting their message out. The sooner they come to together around a candidate, the better.

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Even if that candidate will be a disaster of a president in the most perilous times since WW2. Such a brilliant strategy for "The Party'. The country be damned.

Its all about the Party. They even sound like communist these days.

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And Republicans aren't doing the same thing? So many people have posted on this board how they don't like Trump or are Desantis backers, or will hold their nose and pull the lever for Trump in order to keep Democrats out of power. And I'm sure you realize that the very same things you are thinking about Harris, people are saying about Trump.

It appears you haven't realized how the game of politics is played now. I don't think Biden was the best president nor do I think Kamala is going to be a whole lot better. But I am sure as hell not going to vote for Trump and I'm going to do everything I legally can to ensure a Democrat wins in November.

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Said like a true Swifty. The difference is Trump is not a Socialist. Try less soy.

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What an utterly predictable response.

It's like the default is to attack masculinity because that seems to be the one thing conservative men care so deeply about to their core that it becomes the highest form of insult.

Brace yourself, but I along with a **** load of other men don't care if you attack my masculinity. Aside from being pretty confident I have a healthy level of good self esteem.

Here I'll even help you out. I think Taylor Swift is great. She is one hell of a live performer who puts on an extremely entertaining show that most musicians and artists would struggle to complete. She also one of the best singer song writers out there.

Also tofu ain't half bad. I really like it in a good pad Thai.

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You clearly don't know any decent songwriters

Love him or hate him, Trump had a much better 4-year term than this clown show

nai06 said:

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e=mc2 said:

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nai06 said:

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ttu_85 said:

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nai06 said:

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BlueTaze said:

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Lots of non-establishment dems outside MSM being critical of the rush lately. Not really any legit reason to push for Aug 1-7 roll call, when you can do the same thing at convention couple weeks later. Maybe it's a precautionary measure, incase there is a challenge/controversy, they will have more time to resolve.

DNC should be releasing the role call process tmrw. So if the topic makes it into the MSM, it will be interesting to see how Dems justify the early vote, and dismiss "coronation" at the same time.

Less than 2 weeks for staffer leaks, some other scandal to surface, or someone with 300 delegate sigs to throw hat in. Virtually no chance that dem voters demand pivoting to open convention, they are total clueless NPCs. BUT, still a small outside chance this overly aggressive promotion of Kamala sparks a call from "the people" for an open convention.

In meantime, GOP should call harder for resignation and force dems, media, Kamala to argue Biden is fit to serve out term. That will put pressure on Biden to prove it, which lead to more Biden embarrassment for Kamala and party.

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Guarantee that if they waited past August 7th, Republicans would file suit saying the deadline was illegally or unfairly changed. So far enough regular delegates have pledged to support Harris that a second round of voting would not be needed. Practically speaking there just isn't enough time to look at someone else. Is Kamala my ideal candidate for Democrats? No not really. But the most important thing is to unite around a candidate as soon as possible. There isn't time to waste if they want to have a chance at winning this fall. Waiting till the full convention limits the ability to start campaigning and getting their message out. The sooner they come to together around a candidate, the better.

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Even if that candidate will be a disaster of a president in the most perilous times since WW2. Such a brilliant strategy for "The Party'. The country be damned.

Its all about the Party. They even sound like communist these days.

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And Republicans aren't doing the same thing? So many people have posted on this board how they don't like Trump or are Desantis backers, or will hold their nose and pull the lever for Trump in order to keep Democrats out of power. And I'm sure you realize that the very same things you are thinking about Harris, people are saying about Trump.

It appears you haven't realized how the game of politics is played now. I don't think Biden was the best president nor do I think Kamala is going to be a whole lot better. But I am sure as hell not going to vote for Trump and I'm going to do everything I legally can to ensure a Democrat wins in November.

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Said like a true Swifty. The difference is Trump is not a Socialist. Try less soy.

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What an utterly predictable response.

It's like the default is to attack masculinity because that seems to be the one thing conservative men care so deeply about to their core that it becomes the highest form of insult.

Brace yourself, but I along with a **** load of other men don't care if you attack my masculinity. Aside from being pretty confident I have a healthy level of good self esteem.

Here I'll even help you out. I think Taylor Swift is great. She is one hell of a live performer who puts on an extremely entertaining show that most musicians and artists would struggle to complete. She also one of the best singer song writers out there.

Also tofu ain't half bad. I really like it in a good pad Thai.

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Facts are utterly predictable responses.

nai06 said:

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ttu_85 said:

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nai06 said:

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BlueTaze said:

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Lots of non-establishment dems outside MSM being critical of the rush lately. Not really any legit reason to push for Aug 1-7 roll call, when you can do the same thing at convention couple weeks later. Maybe it's a precautionary measure, incase there is a challenge/controversy, they will have more time to resolve.

DNC should be releasing the role call process tmrw. So if the topic makes it into the MSM, it will be interesting to see how Dems justify the early vote, and dismiss "coronation" at the same time.

Less than 2 weeks for staffer leaks, some other scandal to surface, or someone with 300 delegate sigs to throw hat in. Virtually no chance that dem voters demand pivoting to open convention, they are total clueless NPCs. BUT, still a small outside chance this overly aggressive promotion of Kamala sparks a call from "the people" for an open convention.

In meantime, GOP should call harder for resignation and force dems, media, Kamala to argue Biden is fit to serve out term. That will put pressure on Biden to prove it, which lead to more Biden embarrassment for Kamala and party.

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Guarantee that if they waited past August 7th, Republicans would file suit saying the deadline was illegally or unfairly changed. So far enough regular delegates have pledged to support Harris that a second round of voting would not be needed. Practically speaking there just isn't enough time to look at someone else. Is Kamala my ideal candidate for Democrats? No not really. But the most important thing is to unite around a candidate as soon as possible. There isn't time to waste if they want to have a chance at winning this fall. Waiting till the full convention limits the ability to start campaigning and getting their message out. The sooner they come to together around a candidate, the better.

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Even if that candidate will be a disaster of a president in the most perilous times since WW2. Such a brilliant strategy for "The Party'. The country be damned.

Its all about the Party. They even sound like communist these days.

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And Republicans aren't doing the same thing? So many people have posted on this board how they don't like Trump or are Desantis backers, or will hold their nose and pull the lever for Trump in order to keep Democrats out of power. And I'm sure you realize that the very same things you are thinking about Harris, people are saying about Trump.

It appears you haven't realized how the game of politics is played now. I don't think Biden was the best president nor do I think Kamala is going to be a whole lot better. But I am sure as hell not going to vote for Trump and I'm going to do everything I legally can to ensure a Democrat wins in November.

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Is it an anti trump thing, or do you actually think the Dems are doing a good job? Serious question.

The weird single issue voters of the Democrat party will our downfall.

Trying to compare the right's support for Trump and the left's support for Joe/Kamal is laughable. I am a Desantis guy, but I'll vote for Trump because even though he's not my preferred candidate, I don't really like him much, but he is certainly capable of the job. He's proved it already.

On the other hand, the left voted for a corrupt potato. This was known before the 2020 election. And now they are prepared to vote for more of the same. Kamla may not be as brain damaged as Joe is/was but she's close. But just like Joe, she isn't capable to do the job. Yet, the left will vote for her anyway because, damn the country, just gotta keep power.

The left isn't even voting for these people to be the leaders of the country, they are preparing to vote for yet another empty suit puppet being run by somebody else. It is undeniable in Joe's case, and incredibly probable with Kamal considering her infantile intellect.

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Trying to compare the right's support for Trump and the left's support for Joe/Kamal is laughable. I am a Desantis guy, but I'll vote for Trump because even though he's not my preferred candidate, I don't really like him much, but he is certainly capable of the job. He's proved it already.

On the other hand, the left voted for a corrupt potato. This was known before the 2020 election. And now they are prepared to vote for more of the same. Kamla may not be as brain damaged as Joe is/was but she's close. But just like Joe, she isn't capable to do the job. Yet, the left will vote for her anyway because, damn the country, just gotta keep power.

The left isn't even voting for these people to be the leaders of the country, they are preparing to vote for yet another empty suit puppet being run by somebody else. It is undeniable in Joe's case, and incredibly probable with Kamal considering her infantile intellect.

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