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Former….

That's exactly why his detail sucked. He was being treated as a former President not the presumed next president
Guess I missed when they created different tiers based on whether you're the sitting president or a former. How does that work exactly? Do they prorate it by the number of terms you served? Or maybe the number of years since you were the sitting POTUS? Are both factored into the protection calculation? How do they treat protection of the former POTUS family? Or the current first lady's protection? Dr. Jill has never been president but she had a full protection detail 55 miles away in Pittsburgh.

Seriously - what does a president's status have to do with their SS protection?
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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The local PD claims they weren't security, they only had 7 guys there doing traffic. Who runs this team?


A few days ago we discussed that the local snipe team was/was supposed to be on the roof but they ended up setting up inside on the second floor of the building adjacent to the roof where the shooter was set up.

To miss from that position they must have had Mr Magoo for the sniper. The shooter should have been in spear range from that sniper location.

What I read is they were to be counter sniper on the roof. The local team is a sniper team not counter sniper trained and could do their sniper job from inside.

At that point SS should have pivoted and replaced the roof team but they didn't and allowed the roof to be open


From the earlier discussion of the location of the state police sniper team. Perhaps he couldn't get a good aim because the shooter was too close for the sniper's scope? They were practically on top of him.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3475585/replies/68125391
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agent-maroon said:

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Former….

That's exactly why his detail sucked. He was being treated as a former President not the presumed next president
Guess I missed when they created different tiers based on whether you're the sitting president or a former. How does that work exactly? Do they prorate it by the number of terms you served? Or maybe the number of years since you were the sitting POTUS? Are both factored into the protection calculation? How do they treat protection of the former POTUS family? Or the current first lady's protection? Dr. Jill has never been president but she had a full protection detail 55 miles away in Pittsburgh.

Seriously - what does a president's status have to do with their SS protection?

It's a sad state of affairs in our country when the natural inclination of many will be to answer this with, "It depends on if there is a D after the President's name or not."
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Interesting video of a recreation of bothe the ear shot and the sniper's head shot using ballistic dummies. Amazing how the ear would have responded to the shot


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I guess she doesn't want to testify before Congress.


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I guess she doesn't want to testify before Congress.
Trade places with her. Would you?
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Since I don't believe in DEI, I wouldn't be qualified for her job.
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Yeah.

If a former president and a potential presidential candidate get hit by a bullet on your watch, maybe that's not the career path that fits.
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drcrinum said:






I guess she doesn't want to testify before Congress.





That doesn't change by resigning?
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She will be well taken care of financially…
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Welp, her resigning before testifying just further buries any chance of getting anything close to the truth. ****
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She would've dodged the questions anyway…

You're not going to get the truth from anyone on high…
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FireAg said:

She would've dodged the questions anyway…

You're not going to get the truth from anyone on high…


Agreed, but at least you have a minute chance she ****s up and lets something slip…not anymore
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Can't she still be called to testify before Congress as the former head of the SS?
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BuddysBud said:

Can't she still be called to testify before Congress as the former head of the SS?
yes

but she can also fight it unless the DoJ is willing to pursue. and you think Bidens DOJ is going to go after one of their own?
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Comey, Cheatle, and Hur

Modern day Dewey, Cheetham & Howe
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FireAg said:

She will be well taken care of financially…
yep. golden parachutes for many
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FireAg said:

She will be well taken care of financially…


Or just taken "care" of.
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Nah…she'll get her payday and disappear into the shadows…
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FireAg said:

She will be well taken care of financially…


Wont they eliminate a loose end?
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Agreed, but at least you have a minute chance she ****s up and lets something slip…not anymore
Personally think there would be a decent chance of this. "Hot roofs" and "dangerous slopes" being prime examples of her thinking on her feet.
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Barnyard96 said:

FireAg said:

She will be well taken care of financially…


Wont they eliminate a loose end?

She's not a loose end…she'll be paid to go away and have amnesia…

Would have happened with either outcome…
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FireAg said:

Barnyard96 said:

FireAg said:

She will be well taken care of financially…


Wont they eliminate a loose end?

She's not a loose end…she'll be paid to go away and have amnesia…

Would have happened with either outcome…


Yeah, I guess it's conspiracy 101. Good call
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I'm not twitter/X literate and I don't see anything breaking with a google search. Any confirmation besides these two tweets?
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The high school of Thomas Crooks says there are no records of him trying out for the rifle team, contradicting the rumor perpetuated by the media and federal investigators over the last week.


https://www.bpsd.org/apps/news/article/1942738
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Well he wasn't a good shot
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agent-maroon said:

I'm not twitter/X literate and I don't see anything breaking with a google search. Any confirmation besides these two tweets?
I've seen a few other tweets but not from any "news" sources or official sources.
Ryan Fournier has 1.1 million followers on Twitter...he's pretty credible.


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The secret service says it has received "NEW INFORMATION".

This NEW INFORMATION is that the secret service has been lying for the past week. They now admit that they denied Trump's requests for more security. Washington Post is reporting that DHS did deny additional security requests

This is why they're not holding press conferences.



The Washington Post proves that DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas *LIED* about not denying Secret Service protection to former President Donald Trump prior to last Saturday's assassination attempt.

The Secret Service and DHS Secretary Mayorkas both lied to the public about the denial of Trump team security requests.

"The assertion that a member of the former president's security team requested additional security resources that the U.S. Secret Service or the Department of Homeland Security rebuffed is absolutely false," said Anthony Guglielmi, a spokesman for the Secret Service.

The Washington Post later reported "Guglielmi said the agency had learned new information indicating the agency's headquarters may have in fact denied some requests for additional security from Trump's detail and was reviewing documentation to understand the specific interactions better."

The Congress already had enough justification to impeach DHS Secretary Mayorkas over deliberately causing a border crisis. The Secret Service's mishandling of the Trump assassination attempt and the DHS cover-up add to the disgraceful record of one of the worst Cabinet officials in U.S. history.

Mayorkas should have been removed from office a long time ago. The fact he is still there means that the Biden administration and the Congress feel they are above accountability to the American people.





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Ryan Fournier
Thank you. Yeah, I've seen his tweets on F16 and remember his name. Just seems like this would be getting more coverage but maybe that's just my personal expectations showing through.
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The cover up is worse than the crime.
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Barnyard96 said:

Im hung up on the shooter they recruited.

Go spend an hour calling attention to yourself and then climb up on the roof and take your shot.


If there really was a second shooter, making the patsy do this makes perfect sense.
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agent-maroon said:

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Ryan Fournier
Thank you. Yeah, I've seen his tweets on F16 and remember his name. Just seems like this would be getting more coverage but maybe that's just my personal expectations showing through.
Rush Limbaugh thought Ryan Fournier was a great journalist and quoted him frequently. FWIW.
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Of course, you get one shot to take Trump out. If i'm on the team, I'm insisting we put this guy in play.
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CNN's latest, FWIW:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/07/19/politics/trump-rally-shooter-searches

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One emerging theory by investigators, based in part on the timing and subjects of his online searches, is that the shooter was looking to carry out a mass shooting and that the Trump event's proximity and timing offered the most ready opportunity, according to a US official briefed on the matter.

Unlike other mass shooters who often leave behind manifestos or writings to explain their attack, Crooks left behind few clues, in his bedroom or online.

Investigators recovered rudimentary explosive devices from his car, along with a bullet-proof vest, additional magazines of the type he used in the attack and a drone, according to the officials who briefed lawmakers Wednesday. At the family home, they also recovered 14 firearms and additional explosives, along with a second cellphone, a laptop and hard drive.

On his primary cellphone, investigators found an image of the arrest photo of Ethan Crumbley the student who shot and killed four classmates at a Michigan high school in 2021 along with information about Crumbley and his parents, who were both found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, the first time parents of a school shooter have been prosecuted.

Three days after the Trump campaign announced the rally in Butler, a western Pennsylvania town about an hour from Crook's home, Crooks made numerous searches online for well-known political figures and political events. He searched for the date and location of the Democratic National Convention, which takes place in August in Chicago, and for the location of the Trump rally. He also searched for information on Trump, Biden and other major political figures.

Investigators have found data showing that Crooks had visited the location of the rally a week before it was to be held. And on the morning of the rally, he visited the farm where the rally was to be held for over an hour. He then went home, and investigators believe he retrieved an AR-15 rifle owned by his father. Crooks' father told investigators that he saw his son leave the home with the rifle and believed he was going to a shooting range that the two had frequented.

On the day of the rally, his parents attempted to reach out to Crooks to find him. He didn't respond.
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Red Pear Realty said:

Barnyard96 said:

Im hung up on the shooter they recruited.

Go spend an hour calling attention to yourself and then climb up on the roof and take your shot.


If there really was a second shooter, making the patsy do this makes perfect sense.

You want your patsy to be easy to hate if he is successful. This 120lb dork does not fit that profile.

Oswald for example is easy to hate because people see or saw him as a traitor that went to Communist Russia.
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