Shots fired at Trump [Keep it factual -- Staff]

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In reply to Kunkle for Congress TX-34 • 6:31a, 7/18/24
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Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:
A different perspective...

1/3200th makes sense in bright daylight for that shot.

The brighter the light, the faster the shutter speed.

If you have a lens that has a very narrow range of focus, which you would likely want for a shot of Trump at a rally, so that the attendees would be blurred out, you would be letting in a lot of light. Range of focus is measured in F-stops, the lower the number, the more light that comes in, and the narrower the range of focus. F2.8 is a common F-stop for a very narrow range of focus for, say, a headshot during a rally.

ISO is the "film speed", how sensitive the sensor is to light. The lower the number, the higher the quality the image, and the faster the "film speed". You would use fast (low number) ISO for bright conditions, slower ISO (higher number) for lower light conditions.

F2.8 at 100 ISO is pretty typical setting for this type of shot outdoors when you want maximum image quality and narrow range of focus.

According to the sunny 16 rule, if you are running F2.8 and ISO100, you would want to use 1/3200th as your shutter speed.

Edit: Or, just take Soup's word for it. He's a real life professional photographer:

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In reply to techno-ag • 6:34a, 7/18/24
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Yeah he's a very good photographer who also got lucky. Trump gave a very Trumpy paise of his work a few years ago I read "The best. A genius photographer, a magician with a camera.' or something like that.

And when they are taking those pictures nowadays and hit click on the high end DSLR camera they bring, it takes like 10 or 20 in a row I believe. I think, but could be wrong, the camera even uploads images to the cloud (over time) automatically to be edited later, so they also aren't limited by the onboard flash storage even at this point.
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6:48a, 7/18/24
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7:36a, 7/18/24



Just another coincidence...
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In reply to drcrinum • 7:39a, 7/18/24
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Just another coincidence...


Reporting error that's already been corrected.

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In reply to J. Walter Weatherman • 7:42a, 7/18/24
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The SEC is in on it too.
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In reply to Barnyard96 • 7:44a, 7/18/24
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The SEC is in on it too.
I'll wager Nancy Pelosi is an investor at this company.
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In reply to Barnyard96 • 7:45a, 7/18/24
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Barnyard96 said:
The SEC is in on it too.


Well they brought in the sips so obviously they're into nefarious dealings
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In reply to drcrinum • 7:58a, 7/18/24
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Barnyard96 said:
The SEC is in on it too.
I'll wager Nancy Pelosi is an investor at this company.


No idea about that but seems irrelevant, they still didn't massively short $DJT. It was a reporting error from a trade made on June 28th.
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8:09a, 7/18/24
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Oh, shocker, what 'trans' 20 year old loser living with his parents, no social media, before outwitting the secret service for an hour and getting off a half dozen shots at a former/future POTUS, with a remote detonator and van full of explosives nearby, doesn't have a second/burner phone?
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In reply to GAC06 • 8:12a, 7/18/24
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GAC06 said:
Barnyard96 said:
The SEC is in on it too.


Well they brought in the sips so obviously they're into nefarious dealings


I knew I tee'd that one up!
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8:13a, 7/18/24
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Wow, I wake up and all kinds of crazy new **** comes out
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In reply to nortex97 • 8:14a, 7/18/24
nortex97 said:


Oh, shocker, what 'trans' 20 year old loser living with his parents, no social media, before outwitting the secret service for an hour and getting off a half dozen shots at a former/future POTUS, with a remote detonator and van full of explosives nearby, doesn't have a second/burner phone?


Where's the trans stuff coming from?
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In reply to nortex97 • 8:14a, 7/18/24
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Trans?

Did I miss this somehow?
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In reply to Madman • 8:19a, 7/18/24
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Scroll up a little. They're referencing an interesting picture of the shooter. Not sure that proves anything, especially as effeminate as boys/men are nowadays, but it would make sense given the recent trans shooters
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8:19a, 7/18/24
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No. There's nothing trans about any of this. It's already screwy enough, no need to convolute things
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8:20a, 7/18/24
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In reply to ttha_aggie_09 • 8:23a, 7/18/24
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Is PaulHookem a reliable source? Seems like he could have found a photo of someone else or doctored one and put it out for attention.
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8:25a, 7/18/24
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Man that photo.
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In reply to Aggie1205 • 8:26a, 7/18/24
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Aggie1205 said:
Is PaulHookem a reliable source?

Judging by his last name, I'd say no!
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8:26a, 7/18/24
There's a thread dedicated to this shorting stock nonsense already


Take it there
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In reply to Aggie1205 • 8:32a, 7/18/24
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Aggie1205 said:
Is PaulHookem a reliable source? Seems like he could have found a photo of someone else or doctored one and put it out for attention.
Apparently sliced bread was...
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In reply to techno-ag • 8:32a, 7/18/24
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techno-ag said:
Cheatle confronted by Republican Senators at the RNC. She told them this wasn't the time or place to answer their questions.


She finally got something right. What a stupid thing for those guys to do when she's on the job.
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In reply to Kunkle for Congress TX-34 • 8:32a, 7/18/24
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Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:
A different perspective...

The guy that claims he "has done photography" doesn't really know what he is talking about.

In a situation like this, it would be common to use 1/8000th (or possibly higher with newer cameras, mine does 1/20,000th) for your brightest spot in direct sunlight, so you can quickly only adjust for shutter speed to shoot something in shadows that capture your attention.

So if you are going from Trump to fans celebrating regularly, you will use the highest shutter speed for Trump in direct sunlight, but might need to drop it 2+ stops for someone in the shade and the easiest way to do that would be to only move the shutter speed dial down.

Each stop corresponds to half as much light. Going from direct sunlight to shade is often about 3 stops. That would be 1/8000th to 1/4000th to 1/2000th to 1/1000th.

If that streak is really made at 1/3000th, the camera was either at 1/2500th or 1/3200th. So if the photographer hat Trump at 1/3200th, then three stops down would be 1/1600th, 1/800th, 1/400th then 1/200th - which is about the minimum a photographer would want for a normal 70-200mm lens.

Who eever the Patriot voice guy is, I dont think he knows what he is talking about and doubt he has ever shot any events where he would be moving from direct sunlight to shade regularly.
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In reply to Aggie1205 • 8:33a, 7/18/24
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Aggie1205 said:
Is PaulHookem a reliable source? Seems like he could have found a photo of someone else or doctored one and put it out for attention.
Doesn't really look like Crooks to me. Different person?
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In reply to DTP02 • 8:34a, 7/18/24
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DTP02 said:
techno-ag said:
Cheatle confronted by Republican Senators at the RNC. She told them this wasn't the time or place to answer their questions.


She finally got something right. What a stupid thing for those guys to do when she's on the job.


You think she was there in a security role? She was there to schmooze with elites, as bait for exactly what happened.

She's lucky she wasn't grabbed and cared and feathered.
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In reply to nortex97 • 8:39a, 7/18/24
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nortex97 said:
Yeah he's a very good photographer who also got lucky. Trump gave a very Trumpy paise of his work a few years ago I read "The best. A genius photographer, a magician with a camera.' or something like that.

And when they are taking those pictures nowadays and hit click on the high end DSLR camera they bring, it takes like 10 or 20 in a row I believe. I think, but could be wrong, the camera even uploads images to the cloud (over time) automatically to be edited later, so they also aren't limited by the onboard flash storage even at this point.
You can set my camera to do 20fps, but I wouldn't have it like that for an event like this.

The wifi/bluetooth transmission on these things suck, so they don't really use that to dump all photos taken for something like this, but it is useful to send out one or two immediate after getting a huge shot.

There isn't really a limitation on memory cards. You can get them with multiple TB now and the pro cameras all have two memory card slots.

Many higher end events will plug the cameras directly into ethernet that will dump the cameras quickly, but when you move around like this, it isn't really done. This is done primarily for remote cameras, like we set up for Track and Field, Kentucky Derby, overhead shots for football/basketball/baseball, etc. Not really the one in your hand. Even then, that is mainly the big groups like Getty, AP and in the olden days, SI/ESPN.
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8:39a, 7/18/24
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Can we drop the photography ***** Or take it to the conspiracy thread
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In reply to JobSecurity • 8:51a, 7/18/24
JobSecurity said:
Can we drop the photography ***** Or take it to the conspiracy thread


AMEN

And the trannie hoax as well
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In reply to El Hombre Mas Guapo • 8:54a, 7/18/24
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El Hombre Mas Guapo said:
DTP02 said:
techno-ag said:
Cheatle confronted by Republican Senators at the RNC. She told them this wasn't the time or place to answer their questions.


She finally got something right. What a stupid thing for those guys to do when she's on the job.


You think she was there in a security role? She was there to schmooze with elites, as bait for exactly what happened.

She's lucky she wasn't grabbed and cared and feathered.


Yes I think the head of the SS, in the aftermath of an assassination attempt, at the most secure event going on in our country, was working, not grabbing cocktails. That doesn't change the fact that she should be fired, but our politicians need to have some common sense.
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Foreverconservative said:

Quote:
A secondary phone, found at his home, contained only 27 contacts. The FBI is currently tracking down and interviewing those individuals.
And deleting the 18 contacts that are FBI/CIA/SS/government contacts.
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