Shots fired at Trump [Keep it factual -- Staff]

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Charpie said:

We need to flag the speculation posts.

Hey I am in the Crooks did the shooting camp, but I do not mind a little conspiracy theory talk while we wait for facts to come out. Might be waiting awhile…10, 20, maybe 60 years
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Summary so far:

1. Local cops dropped the ball
2. He was outside the perimeter
3. Sloped roof
4. It was the Iranians

+3 days.

Progressing nicely

This is turning into the list of reasons Hillary lost in 2016. Next up will be the Russian bots in Siberia.
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Thunderstruck xx said:

Not sure if this has been posted yet. WOW.





Is there a theory or evidence that Trump was shot twice in the ear?
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outofstateaggie said:

He's not. He's facing the building in that photo. Lectern would be to his left.
https://postimg.cc/VS517RzD


go to the 1:51 mark

The Case Tractor is stage right, you are correct
Gen x hasn't done a damn thing except pat themselves on the back
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I dont think this was a set up or any weird conspiracy.

This was gross negligence. This was utter incompetence.

I think it's likely there was mass confusion and the counter snipers didn't know/couldn't confirm that the assassin was a bad guy because the locals were in the building.

I also don't think this kid was anything more than a crazy loner, probably on meds and someone looking for a way to make his name known.

It is such a failure it does beg the question of am inside job and it's gonna take a hell of a Lotta work to prove otherwise.
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The facts of this case are tearing us apart.
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Agthatbuilds said:

I dont think this was a set up or any weird conspiracy.

This was gross negligence. This was utter incompetence.

I think it's likely there was mass confusion and the counter snipers didn't know/couldn't confirm that the assassin was a bad guy because the locals were in the building.

I also don't think this kid was anything more than a crazy loner, probably on meds and someone looking for a way to make his name known.

It is such a failure it does beg the question of am inside job and it's gonna take a hell of a Lotta work to prove otherwise.


This where I am at. I think it's just a colossal failure but it's so bad there should be no other option than to rule out foul play. The level of fuxk up is so bad it might as well have been an inside job in terms of how it will impact the faith in the SS as an entity.
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Wiping the slate clean doing a fact based approach.

A 20-year old kid from Pennsylvania lives with his parents. In his spare time he works at a nursing home in food service. Posts on Discord and drives around in his Nissan Sentra.

Both the kids parents are mental health experts. Dad owns 20-guns and they are a member of a local shooting club.

The kid gets up on the morning of July 13th. Goes Home Depot and buys a extension ladder. Goes to the gun and ammo shop nearby and buys a box of 5.56.

He then drives an hour and a half from where he lives to Butler.

Accesses the parameter of an industrial park where the police sniper headquarters is located.

He climbs up on to of the roof directly above the sniper headquarters which is 140 yards from where Trump is speaking.

He then shoots Trump in the ear before he is quickly dispatched by counter-snipers within seconds.

How we doing so far?
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-the authorities had eyes on him well in advance

-he didn't miss, Trump got lucky he turned his head
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Crooks last 48 hours;

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In the 48 hours before the shooting, the 20-year-old took a series of actions to ready himself for the attack, CNN reported.

"He went to a shooting range where he was a member, and practiced firing," a law enforcement official told the news outlet. The next day, he made a trip to Home Depot and bought a five-foot ladder. He later purchased 50 rounds of ammunition from a local gun store.

On the day of the Pennsylvania rally at which Trump was set to address the crowd, Crooks drove to the venue and parked his car close by with an improvised explosive device concealed in the trunk. The device as connected to a transmitter he carried on his person.

Upon arriving, Crooks climbed a nearby building using the ladder he purchased. Shortly after, he tried to shoot the former president, grazing him in the ear. The presence of the transmitter led authorities to believe he was planning a larger-scale assault. "That suggests the gunman may have been planning to set off an explosion remotely," said a law enforcement official.
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It's unclear how Crooks assembled the explosive devices found in his car. Investigators parsing through his online search history haven't found any indication of him researching how to make home-made explosives, law enforcement officials said.

The AR-style rifle Crooks used to fire on Trump was legally purchased by his father, Matthew Crooks. It was one of more than 20 firearms registered to the elder Crooks, which were kept at the family's home, according to Pennsylvania State Police records reviewed by investigators, the official said. All of the guns were legally purchased.

The gunman and his father were members of Clairton Sportsmen's Club, a gun club about a 25-minute drive from his house, and enjoyed going shooting there together, according to law enforcement officials. Rob Bootay, a lawyer for the club, confirmed in a statement that the younger Crooks was a member.

So, more shooting experience than some had assumed.
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Thunderstruck xx said:

Not sure if this has been posted yet. WOW.



wow, i did not know that three shots missed him
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If we're following this exact sequence, wouldn't his right hand have got blown off by the second bullet?
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good nuggets said:

If we're following this exact sequence, wouldn't his right hand have got blown off by the second bullet?

good point.

so is it bogus visualization or did it go by his hand somehow?
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nortex97 said:

Crooks last 48 hours;

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In the 48 hours before the shooting, the 20-year-old took a series of actions to ready himself for the attack, CNN reported.

"He went to a shooting range where he was a member, and practiced firing," a law enforcement official told the news outlet. The next day, he made a trip to Home Depot and bought a five-foot ladder. He later purchased 50 rounds of ammunition from a local gun store.

On the day of the Pennsylvania rally at which Trump was set to address the crowd, Crooks drove to the venue and parked his car close by with an improvised explosive device concealed in the trunk. The device as connected to a transmitter he carried on his person.

Upon arriving, Crooks climbed a nearby building using the ladder he purchased. Shortly after, he tried to shoot the former president, grazing him in the ear. The presence of the transmitter led authorities to believe he was planning a larger-scale assault. "That suggests the gunman may have been planning to set off an explosion remotely," said a law enforcement official.
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It's unclear how Crooks assembled the explosive devices found in his car. Investigators parsing through his online search history haven't found any indication of him researching how to make home-made explosives, law enforcement officials said.

The AR-style rifle Crooks used to fire on Trump was legally purchased by his father, Matthew Crooks. It was one of more than 20 firearms registered to the elder Crooks, which were kept at the family's home, according to Pennsylvania State Police records reviewed by investigators, the official said. All of the guns were legally purchased.

The gunman and his father were members of Clairton Sportsmen's Club, a gun club about a 25-minute drive from his house, and enjoyed going shooting there together, according to law enforcement officials. Rob Bootay, a lawyer for the club, confirmed in a statement that the younger Crooks was a member.

So, more shooting experience than some had assumed.

He got up on the roof using a 5' ladder?! Really?!
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Im not sure how you would even come up with the telemetry data. Cool image, but ...not sure how facts based it is.

3 out of the 9 shots were matrix mode dodges inches from Trumps head and then 4 of the next 6 kill Cory, injure two others, and hit a hydraulic line on a lift that had speakers on it?
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aggiepanic95 said:

nortex97 said:

Crooks last 48 hours;

Quote:

In the 48 hours before the shooting, the 20-year-old took a series of actions to ready himself for the attack, CNN reported.

"He went to a shooting range where he was a member, and practiced firing," a law enforcement official told the news outlet. The next day, he made a trip to Home Depot and bought a five-foot ladder. He later purchased 50 rounds of ammunition from a local gun store.

On the day of the Pennsylvania rally at which Trump was set to address the crowd, Crooks drove to the venue and parked his car close by with an improvised explosive device concealed in the trunk. The device as connected to a transmitter he carried on his person.

Upon arriving, Crooks climbed a nearby building using the ladder he purchased. Shortly after, he tried to shoot the former president, grazing him in the ear. The presence of the transmitter led authorities to believe he was planning a larger-scale assault. "That suggests the gunman may have been planning to set off an explosion remotely," said a law enforcement official.
Quote:

It's unclear how Crooks assembled the explosive devices found in his car. Investigators parsing through his online search history haven't found any indication of him researching how to make home-made explosives, law enforcement officials said.

The AR-style rifle Crooks used to fire on Trump was legally purchased by his father, Matthew Crooks. It was one of more than 20 firearms registered to the elder Crooks, which were kept at the family's home, according to Pennsylvania State Police records reviewed by investigators, the official said. All of the guns were legally purchased.

The gunman and his father were members of Clairton Sportsmen's Club, a gun club about a 25-minute drive from his house, and enjoyed going shooting there together, according to law enforcement officials. Rob Bootay, a lawyer for the club, confirmed in a statement that the younger Crooks was a member.

So, more shooting experience than some had assumed.

He got up on the roof using a 5' ladder?! Really?!
and it is being reported he carried the ladder, ar15 and 50 rounds of ammo 1 mile to the building....How the hell did no one see him or try and stop him???
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Wiping the slate clean doing a fact based approach.

A 20-year old kid from Pennsylvania lives with his parents. In his spare time he works at a nursing home in food service. Posts on Discord and drives around in his Nissan Sentra.

Both the kids parents are mental health experts. Dad owns 20-guns and they are a member of a local shooting club.

The kid gets up on the morning of July 13th. Goes Home Depot and buys a extension ladder. Goes to the gun and ammo shop nearby and buys a box of 5.56.

He then drives an hour and a half from where he lives to Butler.

Accesses the parameter of an industrial park where the police sniper headquarters is located.

He climbs up on to of the roof directly above the sniper headquarters which is 140 yards from where Trump is speaking.

He then shoots Trump in the ear before he is quickly dispatched by counter-snipers within seconds.

How we doing so far?
You forgot one thing......he carried that ladder and rifle across the field and placed the ladder against the building, then scaled it and crawled across the roof. AND NO LE NOTICED.
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I'd hazard a guess it was a telescoping ladder.
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Animation mapping out the shooter and sniper locations

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The illusion of security is sometimes more important than actual security.

This whole incident is a colossal ****up.

Now that some 20 year old random psycho was able to get this this close and actually hit his target, this will only embolden other idiots to try the same on other targets.

This impacts everyone from the far left, through the center and all the way to the right.
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nortex97 said:

I'd hazard a guess it was a telescoping ladder.
So... you're saying it was an ASSAULT ladder.
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zgolfz85 said:

make it make sense.

also, could you imagine if online forums were a thing during jfk?


How else do you think we came up with the three different theories?

-LHO
-Grassy Knoll
-SS ND

Everyone with a modem was online that day.
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good nuggets said:

If we're following this exact sequence, wouldn't his right hand have got blown off by the second bullet?
Maybe elevation is not being shown on the visual. Or it could be all made up.
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Agthatbuilds said:

I dont think this was a set up or any weird conspiracy.

This was gross negligence. This was utter incompetence.

I think it's likely there was mass confusion and the counter snipers didn't know/couldn't confirm that the assassin was a bad guy because the locals were in the building.

I also don't think this kid was anything more than a crazy loner, probably on meds and someone looking for a way to make his name known.

It is such a failure it does beg the question of am inside job and it's gonna take a hell of a Lotta work to prove otherwise.


Any 1 of the mistakes they made was "gross negligence/ colossal fugg up" by so called professionals or those that are supposed to be best at their job..

All of the mistakes combined though? I'm not sure their are terms that make sense to describe that other than criminal or intentional..
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nortex97 said:


The AR-style rifle Crooks used to fire on Trump was legally purchased by his father, Matthew Crooks. It was one of more than 20 firearms registered to the elder Crooks, which were kept at the family's home, according to Pennsylvania State Police records reviewed by investigators, the official said. All of the guns were legally purchased.


Registered?
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It's that bad of a **** up, I agree.
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I don't think this is speculation. Staff delete if you say I am wrong.

If you want to know the name of a man that knows more about the USSS, at least the org in its past is a guy named Vince Palamara. He has spent the last few decades documenting everything you can document about the USSS in terms of people, rules, regulations, etc.

At some point I am sure he will have some public comments about failures and deviations from rules. Not comments about conspiracy.

Edit

And if you want to know what procedures changed after past assassinations and attempts he is the guy.
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Rydyn said:

nortex97 said:

I'd hazard a guess it was a telescoping ladder.
So... you're saying it was an ASSAULT ladder.


They said he bought it at Home Depot

Here you go





People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
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Really maps out the layout very well.
You do not have a soul. You are a soul that has a body.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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Which part of that is 5 ft.?
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Donald Trump Manga Style
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jeremiahjt said:

good nuggets said:

If we're following this exact sequence, wouldn't his right hand have got blown off by the second bullet?
Maybe elevation is not being shown on the visual. Or it could be all made up.


Don't get hung up on the second and third bullet, the only one that matters is the first one that we KNOW just missed changing the country forever.
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His weapon was a DPMS DR-15 16" M4 5.56 1/7 PHOS 13.5" M-LOK MOE RIFLE , standard mag is 30 rounds
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
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