Trump talking to Bobby Jr about vaccines and getting shot, and Bobby joining in some capacity.
this is part of it
this is part of it
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Show me a roof anywhere on those grounds that wasn't sloped.Quote:
I guess they are rolling out alternate BS excuses now since the 'it was too hot to be on the roof' one was so pathetic.
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Yeah that's the dumbest excuse yet. That roof had much less slope than the roof the SS snipers were on.
I would agree, but never forget someone had to assemble this team and someone had to be in charge. Calling something a conspiracy sounds harsh and is likely incorrect. Setting things up to fail? Pretty obvious and it would be the best way to do it-if, of course, that was your goal...Barnyard96 said:Hittag1492 said:It doesn't have to go deep and wide or even include most of the people on the ground...Barnyard96 said:
So he was in on it. That makes sense now. I bet he was the signal for the real shooter.
Man, this thing goes deep and wide.
Carlin-You don't need a conspiracy when interests converge...
Its probably due to incompetence on the assassination team. I mean Trump is still alive. Heads need to roll.
It's almost as if…"if Trump dies or loses, I keep my job, but if he wins, I lose my job" is a simpler explanation vs. incompetence and obvious lies/excuses. The CCP doesn't put up with political dissidents.
Any hint at motive? Was the shooter just trying to prove his tacti-cool mettle to everyone in the most insane and dramatic way possible?
Work from what we know:
This is an epic fail of unquestionable incompetence from a Biden Administration that has a string of epic fails making Buchanan look like a damned genius.
From Abbey Gate to Butler County, the Democrats are simply incapable of running the country.
If we find anything more sinister, then that only adds to the basic truth that Biden and his party are unfit to govern.
This is an epic fail of unquestionable incompetence from a Biden Administration that has a string of epic fails making Buchanan look like a damned genius.
From Abbey Gate to Butler County, the Democrats are simply incapable of running the country.
If we find anything more sinister, then that only adds to the basic truth that Biden and his party are unfit to govern.
6-2, stack monster said:
In one of the above posts, it shows the shooters gun nearly 6 feet away to his side. How would the gun be that far from him? If the return fire was indeed a head shot wouldn't the rifle be next to him.
The first Leo to get up there would move the weapon out of reach of the shooter even if they were apparently dead.
Most people cannot grasp the amount of money and power that is up for grabs or that will change hands if Trump is elected. The only growing industry in the economy is government... the guy talking about changing that is favored to win. Do the math.nortex97 said:
It's almost as if…"if Trump dies or loses, I keep my job, but if he wins, I lose my job" is a simpler explanation vs. incompetence and obvious lies/excuses. The CCP doesn't put up with political dissidents.
And as time goes on, the people that laughed about this viewpoint will be eating crow, if they're not already.agent-maroon said:
I'll own it.
Right now it looks to me to be intentional negligence, with or without knowledge/rumors of the existence of an unstable 20yo shooter. More likely that he's a lone wolf, but not certain given the supposed sighting of him 30 minutes before the attempt.
I just don't see this being attributed to mere gross incompetence given the earlier sightings and a crowd pointing and attempting to wave down LEO as to the presence of a suspicious individual on the roof. With video to back this up. For 2 minutes.
But no matter what it was, I just can't see any reasoning that can explain away the unguarded shooters perch on that rooftop as being an accident. Even the counter-snipers that took him out should have alerted the security team about an unguarded roof. Security 101.
To be fair, it's tough for folks to accept the US gov't has folks doing stuff like this, even as a possibility. Good folks like Dan Bongino haven't even gotten there…yet.
Saw a former SS agent on TV this morning. She said that there is always a command center with the liasions for each agency involved in security. They are together in the same room and communicate via their distinct communications channels at all times. So if a local PD radioed in that a man had been spotted on that roof, the SS officer in commnd could immediately alert the sniper teams on which grid and zone to look while simultaneously confirming with the counterparts it was not a friendly up there.Quote:
I would agree, but never forget someone had to assemble this team and someone had to be in charge. Calling something a conspiracy sounds harsh and is likely incorrect. Setting things up to fail? Pretty obvious and it would be the best way to do it-if, of course, that was your goal...
That commander on scene is the person who knows what happened. I'd wager there is some type of recording as well.
Which makes it all the more curious about the story of the cop who did get up to the roof, whether by ladder or boosted by another officer, that there should have been radio contact before that saying they were going to take a look. Again, grids and zones. The entire site is mapped out and where security is stationed is mapped out. Those maps are in the command center so they could pinpoint which officers were where and which were responding to the reports of a man on the roof and where located.
Hittag1492 said:I would agree, but never forget someone had to assemble this team and someone had to be in charge. Calling something a conspiracy sounds harsh and is likely incorrect. Setting things up to fail? Pretty obvious and it would be the best way to do it-if, of course, that was your goal...Barnyard96 said:Hittag1492 said:It doesn't have to go deep and wide or even include most of the people on the ground...Barnyard96 said:
So he was in on it. That makes sense now. I bet he was the signal for the real shooter.
Man, this thing goes deep and wide.
Carlin-You don't need a conspiracy when interests converge...
Its probably due to incompetence on the assassination team. I mean Trump is still alive. Heads need to roll.
Theres my alternate theory that Trump orchestrated all of this.
True. Most people only know the history taught in schools and think our government is a benevolent actor that is batting 1,000 and never would try to kill anyone.
You're correct about Dan Bongino but the key word was "yet" as you mentioned.
You're correct about Dan Bongino but the key word was "yet" as you mentioned.
Foreverconservative said:FTAG 2000 said:Foreverconservative said:P.U.T.U said:
Now there are videos of a SS agent crouching down beside the stage right before the shooting happened. Keeps getting weirder and weirder
Another female
This was post shooting and the person to the right on the ground is one of those shot.
Let's take a breath on this one
The person on the ground is a photographer sitting taking low angle shots from behind the PA
I think this might be reporter Salena Zito. look at the boots.
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You may be on to something. the kid is/was a distraction. All eyes on the kid. All discussion is about the kid and his location.
Yes, because that was not part of the democrat's plan and the shooter would have aborted the mission.Quote:
So a cardboard cutout of a police officer on the roof would have thwarted this whole thing?
We have Hollywood as an example….
In the movie vantage point it was an internal sabotage by foreign terrorists.
In the movie Shooter it was a covert CIA faction who was intentionally taking out the archbishop who was standing next to the POTUS. I think it's clear it was an inside job using these movies
In the movie vantage point it was an internal sabotage by foreign terrorists.
In the movie Shooter it was a covert CIA faction who was intentionally taking out the archbishop who was standing next to the POTUS. I think it's clear it was an inside job using these movies
Horn_in_Aggieland said:Foreverconservative said:FTAG 2000 said:Foreverconservative said:P.U.T.U said:
Now there are videos of a SS agent crouching down beside the stage right before the shooting happened. Keeps getting weirder and weirder
Another female
This was post shooting and the person to the right on the ground is one of those shot.
Let's take a breath on this one
The person on the ground is a photographer sitting taking low angle shots from behind the PA
I think this might be reporter Salena Zito. look at the boots.
Good catch it appears you are correct
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Bongino has been very measured in his response, but has a verrrrry long face when talking about it on stream and on the news. I think he knows, but he wants to gather more information before call it what it was. An intentional plot to assassinate Donald Trump.
Day 1 of his inauguration, Trump needs to open a Commission to investigate everything about this, even if the FBI says "cased closed".
Day 1 of his inauguration, Trump needs to open a Commission to investigate everything about this, even if the FBI says "cased closed".
lol. Agent Pam Beasley?
Texas velvet maestro said:
You may be on to something. the kid is/was a distraction. All eyes on the kid. All discussion is about the kid and his location.
Sleight of hand…"it is my opinion" that the kid was a decoy and a target easy to blame…. He wasn't taken out when he was known about for 30 minutes because that takes out the diversion…
They needed the diversion alive until the shot from the actual shooter was taken…
Again…that is my opinion…because I absolutely refuse to believe that folks knew about the threat on the ground/roof for 30 minutes and no one decided to do anything about…I believe orders were issued to buy time so the real shooter could still execute the plan…
"Whoa there Boss, I only said I would be willing to take a bullet, nobody in Secret Service HR said anything about going up on a slopey roof" https://t.co/DHzgBe1Xpq
— David Burge (@iowahawkblog) July 16, 2024
edit: ive deleted this photo because upon further review, it doesn;t appear to be the building. at the very least its in dispute.
if this was planned they wouldn't have trusted the kid with the shot. he's a patsy.
and the DS conducts the investigation. sews it all up.
just my imo
and the DS conducts the investigation. sews it all up.
just my imo
One of the most ridiculous things I've heard is that this nerd took a clear shot at the president from the roof of the building that housed the LEO command center- like he was some kind of Jason Bourne.
That's not the same as "multiple communications (as in the police were talking on radios/comms) about a suspicious guy climbing walls of a building with a perfect line of sight ignored".Science Denier said:I think it was the daily mail that interviewed a citizen that showed an officer where the shooter was and how he got there.agracer said:What reports said they saw him climbing the walls.Science Denier said:Who said that? Multiple communications about a suspicious guy climbing walls of a building with a perfect line of sight ignored. Citizens reporting this shooter on the roof to officials. A sniper with a clear shot on the shooter asking to take the shot and denied.Barnyard96 said:
So he was in on it. That makes sense now. I bet he was the signal for the real shooter.
Man, this thing goes deep and wide.
Doesn't have to be hundreds of people involved. Just a few saying don't shoot this guy because he's one of "us".
But yea. It's gross incompetence. Sounds exactly like the Epstein committed suicide but all of a sudden all the cameras stopped working and the guards just happened to be asleep.
The reports posted say they saw him thru a window outside. Nothing about climbing walls.
The interviews of people who saw him, saw him ON THE ROOF ALREADY and reported it to police and the police did in fact respond.
The other information is they saw him outside, thru windows, multiple times and called it in, but nothing about climbing walls. The question from that should be WTF did the officers inside not go OUTSIDE and see what he was doing.
BlackLab said:
One of the most ridiculous things I've heard is that this nerd took a clear shot at the president from the roof of the building that housed the LEO command center- like he was some kind of Jason Bourne.
No.
Law enforcement was some kind of super trooper.
I guess you missed Ms. DEI's reasoning: too slopey. Taking a bullet for Prez, sure. Securing a position on a 1:12 roof, no way!!!!
Could yall post where yall are hearing these reports? Articles, interviews etc.
Also these rando tweets saying someone said something but not proof it was actually said isn't helpful
Also these rando tweets saying someone said something but not proof it was actually said isn't helpful
Pretty sure the shooting had started. Look at the crowd and photographers. But yes, Miss Ponytail was frantic when they were getting Trump in the vehicle.
Cheatle focused on (1) learning and (2) expressing faith.Quote:
U.S. Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle stressed that her agency is focused on learning how the gunman got a clear shot of Trump.
She also expressed faith in the Secret Service's security plan for the RNC.
No word yet on whether she plans to incorporate elements of live, laugh, love.
Hope none of those guys climb up on their roofs to put up Christmas lights, that's even more dangerous than standing on a nearly flat roof.RED AG 98 said:
I guess you missed Ms. DEI's reasoning: too slopey. Taking a bullet for Prez, sure. Securing a position on a 1:12 roof, no way!!!!
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