Shots fired at Trump [Keep it factual -- Staff]

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SeanAg05 said:

That SS ***** on the radio just said they didn't have somebody on that roof because it was sloped and they were worried about their safety… Are you freaking kidding me… The counter snipers were on a sloped roof
Much larger slope as well.

That was very stupid of her to say. Was it under the SS perimeter or assigned to the locals? Which one?
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Ok...I'm confused...

All the pics show the shooter near the edge of the building facing to the right (in the pics) towards Trump.

Why does this pic have the shooter WAY over on the other side of the building? If those pics/videos are correct, wouldn't he have to be over on the far left of that building?
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There will be evidence made public soon enough.

There were hundreds of people behind Trump. Seems like most of them were filming the speech. And some of them will have the right angle. Somebody's video will have Trump in foreground and that roof in background.
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The NSA will scrub all photo evidence of the real shooter.
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If anything got him to rush the shot, it was bystanders yelling and pointing him out. That said, that shot didn't seem rushed. It was a lucky head turn from hitting its mark exactly
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Barnyard96 said:

The NSA will scrub all photo evidence of the real shooter.

So you'll never have evidence?
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The FBI and SS have all the evidence. We have to 'trust them.'

Interesting speculation related to this failed hit/next likely steps:






Quote:

Erik Prince quote

My confidence is so shaken in all the federal agencies that they are so incapable of self correction of self reflection of cleaning up their own problems that I don't know ever get to the bottom of all the things that went wrong in the situation and that's terrible that makes us feel and smell like Soviet union where it's new Collection of lies and house of cards and that's really trouble if you can't trust your institutions to say OK this is bad and we really screwed up and this is where we screwed up and we're not gonna do that again. I don't think any of the federal agencies are capable of that anymore and that is really troubling.
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agracer said:

Foreverconservative said:

P.U.T.U said:

Now there are videos of a SS agent crouching down beside the stage right before the shooting happened. Keeps getting weirder and weirder


Another female

You have no clue if that photo is before the shots were fired.

In fact, there is more than one person reacting to 'something' based on the folks in the stands in the background and the other guy in the suite (SS??) on the right side of the photo.



I know for a fact it was after the shots were fired you're the one that has no clue
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Teslag said:

Barnyard96 said:

The NSA will scrub all photo evidence of the real shooter.

So you'll never have evidence?


Apologies, this js sarcasm.
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nortex97 said:

The shooter (crooks) was in a Blackrock advert they decided to pull over the weekend after the shooting. Is that also not true in your world?


So he's a Blackrock cultivated assassin but they didn't pull the ad until after the shooting? And that makes sense to you?
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Foreverconservative said:

P.U.T.U said:

Now there are videos of a SS agent crouching down beside the stage right before the shooting happened. Keeps getting weirder and weirder


Another female



This was post shooting and the person to the right on the ground is one of those shot.

Let's take a breath on this one
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nortex97 said:

The FBI and SS have all the evidence. We have to 'trust them.'

Interesting speculation related to this failed hit/next likely steps:






Quote:

Erik Prince quote

My confidence is so shaken in all the federal agencies that they are so incapable of self correction of self reflection of cleaning up their own problems that I don't know ever get to the bottom of all the things that went wrong in the situation and that's terrible that makes us feel and smell like Soviet union where it's new Collection of lies and house of cards and that's really trouble if you can't trust your institutions to say OK this is bad and we really screwed up and this is where we screwed up and we're not gonna do that again. I don't think any of the federal agencies are capable of that anymore and that is really troubling.



This is a somewhat deceitful headline.

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FTAG 2000 said:

Foreverconservative said:

P.U.T.U said:

Now there are videos of a SS agent crouching down beside the stage right before the shooting happened. Keeps getting weirder and weirder


Another female



This was post shooting and the person to the right on the ground is one of those shot.

Let's take a breath on this one



The person on the ground is a photographer sitting taking low angle shots from behind the PA
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Barnyard96 said:

So he was in on it. That makes sense now. I bet he was the signal for the real shooter.

Man, this thing goes deep and wide.
It doesn't have to go deep and wide or even include most of the people on the ground...

Carlin-You don't need a conspiracy when interests converge...
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Barnyard96 said:

In other news, OJ was framed.
In today's lexicon, they would say they tried to fortify the prosecution.

🤡 🤡 🤡
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Hittag1492 said:

Barnyard96 said:

So he was in on it. That makes sense now. I bet he was the signal for the real shooter.

Man, this thing goes deep and wide.
It doesn't have to go deep and wide or even include most of the people on the ground...

Carlin-You don't need a conspiracy when interests converge...



Its probably due to incompetence on the assassination team. I mean Trump is still alive. Heads need to roll.
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FireAg said:

GAC06 said:

FireAg said:

GAC06 said:

FireAg said:

GAC06 said:

FireAg said:

What other shooter? One shooter…


Oh ok show me evidence of the pro shooter other than the 20 year old that also missed

Show me evidence the 20yo kid fired a gun…

Video of the actual shots? Muzzle flashes? Anything?


You can just say you have no evidence whatsoever to back up your claims. No need to answer a question with a question and dance around.

You have no evidence either…that's my point…

And that's the way they want it…


Yet I'm not making stuff up and presenting it as fact

I have said nothing as fact…

Other than it is fact that we don't know anything concrete about the weapon, shell casings, or reasons why the kid is on the radar for 30 mins and folks either choose to ignore him or are told to…


This is objectively false. Just in your last several posts you have said definitively that this was an orchestrated hit, that the kid was a patsy, and that there was another shooter.

At some point soon I hope staff steps in and limits the discussion to reports of actual facts and information and commentary on those things. Y'all can go have your own Q Anon conspiracy theory thread.

There are plenty of questions unanswered. It's legitimate to continue asking those questions, but that's not what you and others on here are doing. You're presenting an ever-evolving conspiracy theory as fact, with each new iteration becoming the new fact.
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I hope staff doesnt step in. This stuff is comic gold.
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DTP02 said:

FireAg said:

GAC06 said:

FireAg said:

GAC06 said:

FireAg said:

GAC06 said:

FireAg said:

What other shooter? One shooter…


Oh ok show me evidence of the pro shooter other than the 20 year old that also missed

Show me evidence the 20yo kid fired a gun…

Video of the actual shots? Muzzle flashes? Anything?


You can just say you have no evidence whatsoever to back up your claims. No need to answer a question with a question and dance around.

You have no evidence either…that's my point…

And that's the way they want it…


Yet I'm not making stuff up and presenting it as fact

I have said nothing as fact…

Other than it is fact that we don't know anything concrete about the weapon, shell casings, or reasons why the kid is on the radar for 30 mins and folks either choose to ignore him or are told to…


This is objectively false. Just in your last several posts you have said definitively that this was an orchestrated hit, that the kid was a patsy, and that there was another shooter.

At some point soon I hope staff steps in and limits the discussion to reports of actual facts and information and commentary on those things. Y'all can go have your own Q Anon conspiracy theory thread.

There are plenty of questions unanswered. It's legitimate to continue asking those questions, but that's not what you and others on here are doing. You're presenting an ever-evolving conspiracy theory as fact, with each new iteration becoming the new fact.

Yep. 100% agree. Lots of posters presenting theories/opinions as facts.
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Has anyone thought to check for any sort of knoll in the area?
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Barnyard96 said:

I hope staff doesnt step in. This stuff is comic gold.
It reveals some folks true colors
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"It is my opinion"..,

Feel better?
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Biden could get a universal win by simply firing Cheatle. There has to be accountability and I think it is pretty obvious the SS screwed up. Send a message. But Biden doesn't hold anyone accountable, so...
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Swamp gonna protect swamp

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-names-new-secret-service-director-growing-pressure-missing-jan-6-rcna44732

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Her appointment comes at a challenging time for the agency, which the House Jan. 6 committee subpoenaed last month after it learned the agency was missing text messages from Jan. 5 and Jan. 6, 2021.
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Barnyard96 said:

I hope staff doesnt step in. This stuff is comic gold.


But it kills the utility of this thread as a clearinghouse for updates and information, and discussion of the same.
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It's a discussion, an open discussion, so y'all need to build a bridge and get over it already…
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Science Denier said:

Agthatbuilds said:




Note:
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They radioed the Secret Service command post about the assassin.



This thread is getting out of control. Its muddy waters being created ALL on hearsay. Can we please take a couple of minutes and ask ourselves some simple credibility questions before posting crap?

Using the tweet above as an example:

  • Why aren't we seeing the actual LEA in an interview on video with a journalist asking questions when they are going to get paid tens of hundreds of thousands of dollars?
  • Why would LEA be posted inside a building with little to no windows when the proctectee is outside?
  • The TOC with a bunch of monitors and coms equipment might be inside but not counter snipers.
  • Why is someone from the inside suspicious of someone outside when the building has 5+ LEAs surrounding it as shown in photo and video who should have seen and confronted first.
  • FWIW the first question should trigger more questions like why aren't we seeing this? I can understand the SS not going on the news but the local LEAs who could bank big money????? or did they all sign NDAs or hear worse once the investigating agency showed up.
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JDUB08AG said:

Biden could get a universal win by simply firing Cheatle. There has to be accountability and I think it is pretty obvious the SS screwed up. Send a message. But Biden doesn't hold anyone accountable, so...
Jill does but I'm pretty sure Joe has no idea who she is.
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JFABNRGR said:

Science Denier said:

Agthatbuilds said:




Note:
Quote:

They radioed the Secret Service command post about the assassin.



This thread is getting out of control. Its muddy waters being created ALL on hearsay. Can we please take a couple of minutes and ask ourselves some simple credibility questions before posting crap?

Using the tweet above as an example:

  • Why aren't we seeing the actual LEA in an interview on video with a journalist asking questions when they are going to get paid tens of hundreds of thousands of dollars?
  • Why would LEA be posted inside a building with little to no windows when the proctectee is outside?
  • The TOC with a bunch of monitors and coms equipment might be inside but not counter snipers.
  • Why is someone from the inside suspicious of someone outside when the building has 5+ LEAs surrounding it as shown in photo and video who should have seen and confronted first.
  • FWIW the first question should trigger more questions like why aren't we seeing this? I can understand the SS not going on the news but the local LEAs who could bank big money????? or did they all sign NDAs or hear worse once the investigating agency showed up.



C'mon.

You expect transparency with democrats in control?

It's 2024.

FBI isn't going to let anyone give the truth to the public.

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jsc8116 said:




That was good. First time I caught the flag being upside down there at 1:03 in that moment.....We Are in Distress!
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I'll own it.

Right now it looks to me to be intentional negligence, with or without knowledge/rumors of the existence of an unstable 20yo shooter. More likely that he's a lone wolf, but not certain given the supposed sighting of him 30 minutes before the attempt.

I just don't see this being attributed to mere gross incompetence given the earlier sightings and a crowd pointing and attempting to wave down LEO as to the presence of a suspicious individual on the roof. With video to back this up. For 2 minutes.

But no matter what it was, I just can't see any reasoning that can explain away the unguarded shooters perch on that rooftop as being an accident. Even the counter-snipers that took him out should have alerted the security team about an unguarded roof. Security 101.
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OK, but that's a stupid ass headline. He didnt "talk to him" and this info was known the day after the shooting.
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Science Denier said:

agracer said:

FireAg said:

A lot of ostriches with their heads in the ground too…
Some have watched to many movies and played to many games.....
Russia really did influence the election. I mean, so many people had to be part of that conspiracy, right?
Hunter's laptop really was Russian disinformation. I mean, so many people had to be part of that conspiracy, right?
Epstein really did kill himself. I mean, so many people had to be part of that conspiracy, right?
The government wouldn't really sensor all social media. I mean, so many people had to be part of that conspiracy, right?

If these ****wads didn't have such a track record of corruptness with all the proven "conspiracy theories", then the trust factor wouldn't be FUBR. But, when you are lied to over and over and over and over and over and over, well, when something that happens is just so stupid to be believed, it's not believed.


Don't forget they spied on Trump and labeled parents speaking at a PTA meeting as terrorist. **** the FBI!
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I mean, whatever, it is an attention-grabbing headline on a stupid tweet but it covers the wapo story of him going to check on him (I'm sure they exchanged a word or two briefly) before the shooting.

This is amazing, hadn't seen this excuse yet;



I guess they are rolling out alternate BS excuses now since the 'it was too hot to be on the roof' one was so pathetic.
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