Shots fired at Trump [Keep it factual -- Staff]

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Boozer92 said:

definitely same shirt. The other guys twitter is now private. So I can't confirm that is old pic on his account



That pic seems be taken with his hand on concrete above grass. Not on the building
Agreed but still appears to be from above and behind. I'm curious what the source of the photo is.
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JJxvi said:

That "drone picture" is not him. It only bears a passing resemblance. The shooter has much darker hair not this brown verging on blonde in the highlights. Even on the roof in the sun, the shooter's hair in the vids doesnt pop blonde but like reddish or purplish
Not to be argumentative for arguments sake, but it looks just like him to my old eyes. Much more so than it looks like the "Jewgazing" character in the post after yours. "Jewgazing" has more body weight (heavier) IMO
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agent-maroon said:

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"No indication of motive..."

Shocking...


His motive was to kill the president. Is it really that hard?
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agent-maroon said:

Agthatbuilds said:


"No indication of motive..."

Shocking...
"We've looked thru all of his Dem underground and antifa message board posts and can't quite reach a conclusion as to motive."
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"he was bullied" will get a million heads nodding. should suffice for a motive in today's times.
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3200 replies so far. We're halfway to the entire 2024 Longhorn tears thread.
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His motive was to kill the president.
Yes, of course. That's what we used to call the "trivial response". But why?
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I thought I heard that the dude in that photo wasn't the shooter. It was someone who looked a lot like him and tweeted out a pic stating so
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I know it will sound like I am just being snarky but people that regularly use holsters, either OWB or IWB in design are normally pretty automatic at getting a pistol in or out. Just the muscle memory of doing it regularly means you don't have to think about it.

So if you are struggling to re holster it tells me you don't have muscle memory for the action. If you don't have muscle memory for the simple parts why would anyone think you have muscle memory built for the actual shooting?

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MostlyHarmless said:

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why were they not looking other directions?
Outstanding observation. In all the images prior to the shooting, the SS snipers are aimed that way.

Putting a SS sniper on the shooter's agriculture building and that water tower is 101. Take away all the potential advantage points. Ya'll this is a hit job.
Kinda makes ya wonder just how long they've been this lax at Trump events.
I was thinking about that earlier. Maybe they have left holes like this for the last fifty rallies, this was just the first time someone found it.
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agent-maroon said:

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His motive was to kill the president.
Yes, of course. That's what we used to call the "trivial response". But why?

"Existential threat to America"
"Will destroy Democracy"
"Danger to our society"
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:



Homeboy literally shooting from the top of the police staging area.

He up there on top of the mother******s like Hans Gruber.

He directly above the gd cops like Hannibal Lecter in the elevator.

I've seen enough now to know that I've seen too much.


What's wild about this video is the person filming sensed something was up, and then you can see other people looking at the roof, and a few start running immediately before shots are fired (assuming they saw the gunman up there).

How did all of these spectators figure this out and not the cops, and the secret service seemed to have no idea this was going on.

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i know this is potato quality, but this is from 2 years ago at his HS graduation. I dont think that is him.
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Madman said:

I know it will sound like I am just being snarky but people that regularly use holsters, either OWB or IWB in design are normally pretty automatic at getting a pistol in or out. Just the muscle memory of doing it regularly means you don't have to think about it.

So if you are struggling to re holster it tells me you don't have muscle memory for the action. If you don't have muscle memory for the simple parts why would anyone think you have muscle memory built for the actual shooting?





100% correct

In my experience I've seen it a hundred times when for instance they put a desk jockey LEO that's never drawn their weapon in the line of duty and send them out on the street and they become Barney Fife. It's common these days with this DEI movement. I've worked with some crackerjack women that are sharp and good, but every one of them had active combat experience and skills and it shows. That said everyone has their limitations male or female. I know some terrible males I would never want covering my six, just like I know female I would never hesitate to work with.
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Boozer92 said:

Fenrir said:

I'm not making a claim, I'm asking the question. Where does this photo look like it was taken from?

I think that is the Colorado kid who was trolling on Saturday night. I don't think that is the shooter or taken on the day of the shooting


Facts:

The shirt in the photo is the same shirt the shooter was wearing. (The Demolition Ranch shirt).

Photo appeared on the internet shortly after the shooting.

It appears this is a photo of someone who looks like the shooter, that was taken from overhead in the same shirt the shooter had on when he shot Trump. Is it actually the shooter? I guess that's not 100% confirmed by any official sources. Maybe it's a hoax photo. But how did they get the same shirt as the shooter to appear in the photo?
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Fenrir said:

Boozer92 said:

definitely same shirt. The other guys twitter is now private. So I can't confirm that is old pic on his account



That pic seems be taken with his hand on concrete above grass. Not on the building
Agreed but still appears to be from above and behind. I'm curious what the source of the photo is.
I thought the guy in the above photo has come out and said he is alive and was not the shooter? I feel like we are being lied to about who exactly is the shooter or there is bad info. And who is Max Yearick?
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bmks270 said:

Boozer92 said:

Fenrir said:

I'm not making a claim, I'm asking the question. Where does this photo look like it was taken from?

I think that is the Colorado kid who was trolling on Saturday night. I don't think that is the shooter or taken on the day of the shooting


This photo is highly suspect. The shirt in the photo is the same shirt the shooter was wearing. (The Demolition Ranch shirt).

Photo appeared on the internet shortly after the shooting.

It appears this is a photo of the shooter that was taken from overhead in the same shirt he had on when he shot Trump. Is it actually? I guess that's not 100% confirmed by any official sources. Maybe it's a hoax photo. But how did they get the same shirt as the shooter to appear in the photo?

Because demo ranch is one of the most popular YouTube creators? And possibly the biggest gun-related youtuber?
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agent-maroon said:

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His motive was to kill the president.
Yes, of course. That's what we used to call the "trivial response". But why?


The primary answer is going to be some form of mental illness, because anyone who can do something like this is mentally ill to some degree. I think people should always default to that when something like this occurs, whether that be a politician as target or a school or a workplace.

What political influences may have led him to target Trump in particular is a worthwhile inquiry, but doesn't change the fact that ultimately this was a broken young man with a questionable grip on reality and sanity.
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Fenrir said:

Boozer92 said:

definitely same shirt. The other guys twitter is now private. So I can't confirm that is old pic on his account



That pic seems be taken with his hand on concrete above grass. Not on the building
Agreed but still appears to be from above and behind. I'm curious what the source of the photo is.
I thought the guy in the above photo has come out and said he is alive and was not the shooter? I feel like we are being lied to about who exactly is the shooter or there is bad info. And who is Max Yearick?


Max Yearick was first trolled on Twitter by that lying ass Roger Stone and his pet stooge Loomer.
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Decay said:

bmks270 said:

Boozer92 said:

Fenrir said:

I'm not making a claim, I'm asking the question. Where does this photo look like it was taken from?

I think that is the Colorado kid who was trolling on Saturday night. I don't think that is the shooter or taken on the day of the shooting


This photo is highly suspect. The shirt in the photo is the same shirt the shooter was wearing. (The Demolition Ranch shirt).

Photo appeared on the internet shortly after the shooting.

It appears this is a photo of the shooter that was taken from overhead in the same shirt he had on when he shot Trump. Is it actually? I guess that's not 100% confirmed by any official sources. Maybe it's a hoax photo. But how did they get the same shirt as the shooter to appear in the photo?

Because demo ranch is one of the most popular YouTube creators? And possibly the biggest gun-related youtuber?


So someone went, put the shirt on, and took a low res overhead picture that would require someone else to take? Then put that picture online anonymously? And they look like the shooter.

It's possible I guess.
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Whose van was he in that had Arizona plates? Was there a ladder missing from his house?
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bmks270 said:

Decay said:

bmks270 said:

Boozer92 said:

Fenrir said:

I'm not making a claim, I'm asking the question. Where does this photo look like it was taken from?

I think that is the Colorado kid who was trolling on Saturday night. I don't think that is the shooter or taken on the day of the shooting


This photo is highly suspect. The shirt in the photo is the same shirt the shooter was wearing. (The Demolition Ranch shirt).

Photo appeared on the internet shortly after the shooting.

It appears this is a photo of the shooter that was taken from overhead in the same shirt he had on when he shot Trump. Is it actually? I guess that's not 100% confirmed by any official sources. Maybe it's a hoax photo. But how did they get the same shirt as the shooter to appear in the photo?

Because demo ranch is one of the most popular YouTube creators? And possibly the biggest gun-related youtuber?


So someone went, put the shirt on, and took a low res overhead picture that would require someone else to take? Then put that picture online anonymously? And they look like the shooter.

It's possible I guess.
I think it's fairly likely someone saw they had the same shirt and decided to troll. I mean people will troll just about anything.
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Foreverconservative said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Fenrir said:

Boozer92 said:

definitely same shirt. The other guys twitter is now private. So I can't confirm that is old pic on his account



That pic seems be taken with his hand on concrete above grass. Not on the building
Agreed but still appears to be from above and behind. I'm curious what the source of the photo is.
I thought the guy in the above photo has come out and said he is alive and was not the shooter? I feel like we are being lied to about who exactly is the shooter or there is bad info. And who is Max Yearick?


Max Yearick was first trolled on Twitter by that lying ass Roger Stone and his pet stooge Loomer.
Thanks, so the Crooks guy that is online is a different Crooks that looks like him but is alive or these are just old photos of the dead guy? It seems like the hair color is different
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I think there is precedence for this level of incompetence or facilitation. The SS drove president Kennedy into the line of fire in an open convertible, and Oswald was positioned at an elevated window in a building on the route. That was over 60 years ago. Some things never change. Although I believe the kill shot came from ahead of the Kennedy vehicle.
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Matt speaks

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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Fenrir said:

Boozer92 said:

definitely same shirt. The other guys twitter is now private. So I can't confirm that is old pic on his account



That pic seems be taken with his hand on concrete above grass. Not on the building
Agreed but still appears to be from above and behind. I'm curious what the source of the photo is.
I thought the guy in the above photo has come out and said he is alive and was not the shooter? I feel like we are being lied to about who exactly is the shooter or there is bad info. And who is Max Yearick?


I don't believe that guy is same guy that's wearing demo ranch shirt. That photo started getting passed around and he saw the resemblance and leaned into it.
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Fenrir said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Fenrir said:

Boozer92 said:

definitely same shirt. The other guys twitter is now private. So I can't confirm that is old pic on his account



That pic seems be taken with his hand on concrete above grass. Not on the building
Agreed but still appears to be from above and behind. I'm curious what the source of the photo is.
I thought the guy in the above photo has come out and said he is alive and was not the shooter? I feel like we are being lied to about who exactly is the shooter or there is bad info. And who is Max Yearick?


I don't believe that guy is same guy that's wearing demo ranch shirt. That photo started getting passed around and he saw the resemblance and leaned into it.
Got it, I did some research it the nerdy looking kid with short hair. Obviously he let it grow out when he was then shot in the head. He has a unique right ear which is one display in the photo where he is dead.
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Breakdown of the security situation and commentary about the personnel and performance of the primary personal security for Trump. Covers much of what we've been discussing. Also raises many of the same questions that we've been going back and forth about. Good breakdown and commentary
Commentator is John Lovell former 75th Ranger Regiment. Loads of experience in personal security details etc.

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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Foreverconservative said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Fenrir said:

Boozer92 said:

definitely same shirt. The other guys twitter is now private. So I can't confirm that is old pic on his account



That pic seems be taken with his hand on concrete above grass. Not on the building
Agreed but still appears to be from above and behind. I'm curious what the source of the photo is.
I thought the guy in the above photo has come out and said he is alive and was not the shooter? I feel like we are being lied to about who exactly is the shooter or there is bad info. And who is Max Yearick?


Max Yearick was first trolled on Twitter by that lying ass Roger Stone and his pet stooge Loomer.
Thanks, so the Crooks guy that is online is a different Crooks that looks like him but is alive or these are just old photos of the dead guy? It seems like the hair color is different


The other guy isn't even name Crooks he was just a troll that found his 15 minutes.
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aTmAg said:

The notion of that the SS employed a 20 year old loner who lived with his parents to shoot Trump is ridiculous.

I'm sure other sites are linking to these threads to mock us.
I don't think that SS would employ a loner to shoot Trump. If the deep state wanted to mess with the country, Biden would be far better and definitely more logical target.

However, would like to know what the shooters plan was.
Did he somehow know that the building would not have SS on it? Did he talk to local cops?
Was he really going to leave it to chance? "I'm going to walk around with a gun and ladder? and then climb up on a roof?
Had he been up on the roof before? Had he scoped it out?

So many unanswered questions.
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'Alleged Trump shooter spotted by law enforcement nearly 30 minutes before shots fired, sources say'
https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/alleged-trump-shooter-spotted-by-law-enforcement-nearly-30-minutes-before-shots-fired-sources-say/Q6GIK5RP6RBY5PHIMYBNXRTEBI/

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BUTLER, Pa. Channel 11 news uncovered dramatic new details Monday in the moments leading up to the assassination attempt on former president Donald Trump. According to multiple law enforcement sources, Thomas Crooks was spotted by law enforcement on a roof nearly 30 minutes before shots were fired that injured Trump, killed a former fire chief, and injured two others in the crowd.
>>>> Latest on the Trump rally shooting in Butler County

Channel 11s Nicole Ford confirmed that Beaver County's ESU team had eight members at the rally, including snipers and spotters. According to Ford's sources, one of them noticed a suspicious man on a roof near the rally at 5:45 p.m., called it in and took a picture of the person. We have learned from our sources the person in that picture is Thomas Crooks. We're told it's not clear if Crooks had a gun with him at that point.
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StandUpforAmerica said:

'Alleged Trump shooter spotted by law enforcement nearly 30 minutes before shots fired, sources say'
https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/alleged-trump-shooter-spotted-by-law-enforcement-nearly-30-minutes-before-shots-fired-sources-say/Q6GIK5RP6RBY5PHIMYBNXRTEBI/

Quote:

BUTLER, Pa. Channel 11 news uncovered dramatic new details Monday in the moments leading up to the assassination attempt on former president Donald Trump. According to multiple law enforcement sources, Thomas Crooks was spotted by law enforcement on a roof nearly 30 minutes before shots were fired that injured Trump, killed a former fire chief, and injured two others in the crowd.
>>>> Latest on the Trump rally shooting in Butler County

Channel 11s Nicole Ford confirmed that Beaver County's ESU team had eight members at the rally, including snipers and spotters. According to Ford's sources, one of them noticed a suspicious man on a roof near the rally at 5:45 p.m., called it in and took a picture of the person. We have learned from our sources the person in that picture is Thomas Crooks. We're told it's not clear if Crooks had a gun with him at that point.

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You want to know how much of a blunder this was?

The Parking Lot in front of the AGR build the shooter used as a perch was the f***ing staging area for the law enforcement's tactical team. That's what there were so many law enforcement vehicles in that lot.

WTF
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Foreverconservative said:

You want to know how much of a blunder this was?

The Parking Lot in front of the AGR build the shooter used as a perch was the f***ing staging area for the law enforcement's tactical team. That's what there were so many law enforcement vehicles in that lot.

WTF
The best place to hit a target is sometimes the most secure area. Who's looking for a shooter around a bunch of cops.
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AgBQ-00 said:

StandUpforAmerica said:

'Alleged Trump shooter spotted by law enforcement nearly 30 minutes before shots fired, sources say'
https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/alleged-trump-shooter-spotted-by-law-enforcement-nearly-30-minutes-before-shots-fired-sources-say/Q6GIK5RP6RBY5PHIMYBNXRTEBI/

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BUTLER, Pa. Channel 11 news uncovered dramatic new details Monday in the moments leading up to the assassination attempt on former president Donald Trump. According to multiple law enforcement sources, Thomas Crooks was spotted by law enforcement on a roof nearly 30 minutes before shots were fired that injured Trump, killed a former fire chief, and injured two others in the crowd.
>>>> Latest on the Trump rally shooting in Butler County

Channel 11s Nicole Ford confirmed that Beaver County's ESU team had eight members at the rally, including snipers and spotters. According to Ford's sources, one of them noticed a suspicious man on a roof near the rally at 5:45 p.m., called it in and took a picture of the person. We have learned from our sources the person in that picture is Thomas Crooks. We're told it's not clear if Crooks had a gun with him at that point.


Called it in to you? And was told what? To not engage? To ignore it? Crazy coincidence he was spotted, reported, and photographed but like Ethan Hunt he just slipped through their grasp.

Guys pointing rifles at the shooter but let him get multiple shots off before killing him.
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