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In reply to Texas velvet maestro • 1:07p, 7/15/24
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Texas velvet maestro said:
anyone who thinks this is just when a mixed up kid meets honest dei related incompetence, or ss whoopsie....can't help you.

So what is it? Share with us what the facts indicate.
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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1:10p, 7/15/24
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To act like the SS "C Team" shouldn't still be able to handle this all competently is really something.

That's the premier protection agency at the federal level. There's no way the bench guys aren't better than 99% of the world as well.
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In reply to aginlakeway • 1:12p, 7/15/24
aginlakeway said:
Texas velvet maestro said:
anyone who thinks this is just when a mixed up kid meets honest dei related incompetence, or ss whoopsie....can't help you.

So what is it? Share with us what the facts indicate.
Facts? Some people want Trump out of the way because literally trillions hang in the balance, and possibly a corruption clean-up that will send powerful criminals to prison.

did that patsy kid get the grooming treatment on his phone? somebody told him he'd be allowed to go up there, and every step closer to the spot, he got, was confirmation to him that he was being protected.
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1:16p, 7/15/24
I'm holding onto the Blackrock theory
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In reply to Texas velvet maestro • 1:16p, 7/15/24
Texas velvet maestro said:
aginlakeway said:
Texas velvet maestro said:
anyone who thinks this is just when a mixed up kid meets honest dei related incompetence, or ss whoopsie....can't help you.

So what is it? Share with us what the facts indicate.
Facts? Some people want Trump out of the way because literally trillions hang in the balance, and possibly a corruption clean-up that will send powerful criminals to prison.

did that patsy kid get the grooming treatment on his phone? somebody told him he'd be allowed to go up there, and every step closer to the spot, he got, was confirmation to him that he was being protected.


None of those are facts, it's just more speculation.
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In reply to J. Walter Weatherman • 1:17p, 7/15/24
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J. Walter Weatherman said:
Texas velvet maestro said:
aginlakeway said:
Texas velvet maestro said:
anyone who thinks this is just when a mixed up kid meets honest dei related incompetence, or ss whoopsie....can't help you.

So what is it? Share with us what the facts indicate.
Facts? Some people want Trump out of the way because literally trillions hang in the balance, and possibly a corruption clean-up that will send powerful criminals to prison.

did that patsy kid get the grooming treatment on his phone? somebody told him he'd be allowed to go up there, and every step closer to the spot, he got, was confirmation to him that he was being protected.


None of those are facts, it's just more speculation.


Its not a fact lots of people want Trump gone?

WTF?
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In reply to nortex97 • 1:19p, 7/15/24
nortex97 said:
J. Walter Weatherman said:
nortex97 said:
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Critical thinking is a thing of the past for most people in this country.
Calling out the critical thinking of others while dismissing a 20 year old climbing a roof 135 meters from Trump speaking at a rural location and then taking 2 minutes with the crowd pointing at him, to get off 8 shots, before he was terminated by the snipers (after hitting Trump) with a clear line of site to him is…amusing.

Biden loses it in debate with 'it's over polling.'
Trump wins POTUS immunity ruling

USSS:
"The best technology."

"The finest people."

"Oops, we weren't using the same frequency."

"Didn't think the 'unknown' guy with the scoped rifle on the roof posed a reason to protect Trump/evacuate."

"Couldn't see him until after he shot…and didn't move."

"Can't get into his phone, darn it." (But FBI's on it, trust us).

"No social media"

"Donated to act blue...but was a conservative."

'-You crazy conspiracy theorists, no way this was a coordinated operation.'

C'mon, man.

Or:
- This was not their best team.
- Clearly there were communication issues between the police and SS. More will come out on that I'm sure.
- No evidence anyone on SS was aware or saw the guy before he fired.
- Not rare for them to not be able to hack a phone in 48 hours.

But to follow your logic you'd have to believe the "cabal" or whatever hinged their entire giant conspiracy plot on a 20 year old loser using his dad's rifle.

Dude was a lunatic and crazy people do crazy things, especially when the dems and media spend 4 years talking about how Trump is a threat to democracy, hitler etc. Going to need to see some actual evidence before I'd believe anything else.
I don't mind your free decision to believe it was just circumstantial, and trust in the institutions/government/executive branch employees (including the intelligence community) assigned to protect Trump.

I think it's misplaced (especially the assumption that the "B" team somehow justifies the 'incompetence'), as stated, but respect that you have the right (and intelligence) to make that decision on your own. I disagree with it, but I don't dismiss this as 'well you lack critical thinking' skills.

However, I don't know why you think it's proven/accepted he was a 'lunatic,' or that as such he had a capacity to plan this to go to that spot with a rifle at the rally, and take a few minutes to take shots at Trump at exceptionally close range while under clear observation (by the crowd and sniper teams). That defies what I consider common sense but I realize some disagree.


Valid points and people can certainly think whatever they want until more evidence comes out. On your last point, I would argue that anyone deciding to take a shot at a former president knowing 100% that they will be killed immediately is inherently a lunatic. But I'm sure we'll hear more about him as more information comes out.
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In reply to BadMoonRisin • 1:21p, 7/15/24
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BadMoonRisin said:
i believe Hawkeye was referring to the CAT counter assault team - at least that's what I heard from Dan Bongino on an interview he was giving.

I believe Trump's secret service codename is Mogul.


I believe "Hawkeye" is the TL for the USSS CAT Team. They are well trained dudes.

Secret Service, as well as every other governmental law enforcement agency has really hired some unqualified people over the last 4-8 years. The whole DEI thing plus people not wanting to do the job (war on law enforcement lessening police candidates to apply for federal jobs) has dramatically decreased the talent pool. While there are still some really good agents in these agencies, they overall talent level is not great and there are many, many people doing jobs that they shouldn't be. Jobs that they wouldn't even get an interview for 10-15 years ago.
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In reply to JFABNRGR • 1:21p, 7/15/24
JFABNRGR said:
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Texas velvet maestro said:
aginlakeway said:
Texas velvet maestro said:
anyone who thinks this is just when a mixed up kid meets honest dei related incompetence, or ss whoopsie....can't help you.

So what is it? Share with us what the facts indicate.
Facts? Some people want Trump out of the way because literally trillions hang in the balance, and possibly a corruption clean-up that will send powerful criminals to prison.

did that patsy kid get the grooming treatment on his phone? somebody told him he'd be allowed to go up there, and every step closer to the spot, he got, was confirmation to him that he was being protected.


None of those are facts, it's just more speculation.


Its not a fact lots of people want Trump gone?

WTF?


Should have been more clear, but I was referring to his second sentence which is literally the definition of speculation with no evidence.
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In reply to Texas velvet maestro • 1:23p, 7/15/24
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Texas velvet maestro said:
aginlakeway said:
Texas velvet maestro said:
anyone who thinks this is just when a mixed up kid meets honest dei related incompetence, or ss whoopsie....can't help you.

So what is it? Share with us what the facts indicate.
Facts? Some people want Trump out of the way because literally trillions hang in the balance, and possibly a corruption clean-up that will send powerful criminals to prison.

did that patsy kid get the grooming treatment on his phone? somebody told him he'd be allowed to go up there, and every step closer to the spot, he got, was confirmation to him that he was being protected.

Those are opinions, not facts.

I have no idea what happened. I have no idea why they missed him being on that roof. And I have no idea how random TexAgs posters can state with certainty what happened.
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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In reply to hedge • 1:24p, 7/15/24
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dude spent almost 1500 bucks on onlyfans. no wonder he had to borrow his dads gun.
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In reply to hedge • 1:24p, 7/15/24
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Spent $1500 on an only fans girl? Lol
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In reply to Wheatables02 • 1:24p, 7/15/24
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kind of Ironic that a team with the name "Hawkeye" completely missed a shooter dude that was 140 yards away.
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In reply to J. Walter Weatherman • 1:24p, 7/15/24
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Texas velvet maestro said:
aginlakeway said:
Texas velvet maestro said:
anyone who thinks this is just when a mixed up kid meets honest dei related incompetence, or ss whoopsie....can't help you.

So what is it? Share with us what the facts indicate.
Facts? Some people want Trump out of the way because literally trillions hang in the balance, and possibly a corruption clean-up that will send powerful criminals to prison.

did that patsy kid get the grooming treatment on his phone? somebody told him he'd be allowed to go up there, and every step closer to the spot, he got, was confirmation to him that he was being protected.


None of those are facts, it's just more speculation.
let's all just stop thinking and have the imagination of xerox machine. I'll repeat the facts after you.
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1:26p, 7/15/24
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This is a tough one to think about for me because of the implications.

Look, I was no SF cool guy nor a secret squirrel. Just a nobody line grunt that was likable and a smidge smarter than his peers so was maybe afforded a few extra classes and responsibilities that most don't get. Absolutely nothing special.

As the resident nobody, I still took part, planned, and was in charge of many security cordons in an active AO infested with snipers. It was so bad, I ended up becoming a squad RO because every single one we deployed with in my platoon was KIA by snipers except for one WIA who would never be able to walk again. I have lain on rooftoops looking at other rooftoops for several days at the least when the time is added up. Even got hit myself towards the end (armor stopped). So let's just say I had a vested interest to be motivated and attentive in my work. But, at the end, still just a basic ass dude with no high speed training nor expectations of such but who worked countersniper as my life depended on it. I am sad to say that I was never proactively successful btw.

So when I look at Google Maps with the sight lines and distances overlaid, I am floored, absolutely floored, that that roof was not actively and consistently covered. If the super soldiers on social media won't convince you, even the resident nobody who failed to stop a sniper more than once still KNOWS that area should have been covered. That should lend it own weight in its own way I think and the point of this post. That shooter should never have been allowed onto that roof, much less into a firing position. Period. I have tried to convince myself of ways aside from the most gross incompetence I may have ever seen in a professional body.....to the assertion it was allowed. And I can't.

This is such a systemic failure that it legitimately worries me moving forward. And I don't worry.
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In reply to hedge • 1:27p, 7/15/24
rolo said:
Is that his only online footprint?
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In reply to BadMoonRisin • 1:28p, 7/15/24
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BadMoonRisin said:
kind of Ironic that a team with the name "Hawkeye" completely missed a shooter dude that was 140 yards away.


I don't think those snipers you saw flinch are CAT. And I also don't think the team that had a flinch and came off scope got the hits on target or even a shot off. If they are CAT, I'm referring to the actual fighting element, similar to a TIER 1 SWAT team. The guys who got onto the stage with black assault shirts and green pants with helmets. A lot of teams like this are split into Entry/Sniper.
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In reply to gabehcoud • 1:29p, 7/15/24
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There is your spotter, person giving him the go ahead sign to shoot
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:30p, 7/15/24
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aggiehawg said:
SIAP:

so is Blackrock behind this? why is a loonatic kid in one of their videos to start with? is this one of those let me put this in your face type of situations? this is very suspect that this kid would be in an ad on TV and he goes out and does this? what is that like a 500 billiion to 1 odds or more. this is sketchy as all hell
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In reply to gabehcoud • 1:30p, 7/15/24
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I will say this...some white chicks have absolutely zero survival instincts.
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You watching on a big screen HD TV ?
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In reply to Fenrir • 1:34p, 7/15/24
Fenrir said:
gabehcoud said:
I will say this...some white chicks have absolutely zero survival instincts.


Or she did three tours in Iraq and isn't a panty waist like the idiot that tweets stupid stuff like this
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
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In reply to Fenrir • 1:35p, 7/15/24
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Fenrir said:
gabehcoud said:
I will say this...some white chicks have absolutely zero survival instincts.
The fact she sits down looks in the direction of the building quickly smirks puts the sign up and smirks again after shots start and then starts filming is extremely odd. That is very off.
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In reply to MarkTwain • 1:36p, 7/15/24
Foreverconservative said:
Fenrir said:
gabehcoud said:
I will say this...some white chicks have absolutely zero survival instincts.


Or she did three tours in Iraq and isn't a panty waist like the idiot that tweets stupid stuff like this
I would imagine she would have figured out how to take even a small amount of cover in 3 tours.
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1:36p, 7/15/24
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I dont see what's suspicious about the lady in the black hat. She's looking at the screen, which Trump is pointing towards and telling everyone to look at.

And like half the people in the crowd, she starts recording with her phone once chaos hits.
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1:36p, 7/15/24
US Secret Service understaffed but we hiring 87,000 IRS agents.
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In reply to aginlakeway • 1:36p, 7/15/24
aginlakeway said:
Texas velvet maestro said:
aginlakeway said:
Texas velvet maestro said:
anyone who thinks this is just when a mixed up kid meets honest dei related incompetence, or ss whoopsie....can't help you.

So what is it? Share with us what the facts indicate.
Facts? Some people want Trump out of the way because literally trillions hang in the balance, and possibly a corruption clean-up that will send powerful criminals to prison.

did that patsy kid get the grooming treatment on his phone? somebody told him he'd be allowed to go up there, and every step closer to the spot, he got, was confirmation to him that he was being protected.

Those are opinions, not facts.

I have no idea what happened. I have no idea why they missed him being on that roof. And I have no idea how random TexAgs posters can state with certainty what happened.
I stated some facts, reminding you of the context, then left a space.

on down I posed a question, and I suggested an explanation of the dead kids behavior.
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In reply to gabehcoud • 1:37p, 7/15/24
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This is the lady baller was asking about earlier in the thread, this is an extended clip and you can see that she ducks down, holds a sign up, kind of stands back up, looks over to the direction that the shots will come in at, hears some shots, smirks gets down again, and immediately starts filming.

definitely very suspicious behavior. thanks for posting the longer clip.
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In reply to AgBQ-00 • 1:39p, 7/15/24
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AgBQ-00 said:
Fenrir said:
gabehcoud said:
I will say this...some white chicks have absolutely zero survival instincts.
The fact she sits down looks in the direction of the building quickly smirks puts the sign up and smirks again after shots start and then starts filming is extremely odd. That is very off.


She's looking at the jumbotron that trump was literally talking about at that moment. Come on people Jesus Christ
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 1:40p, 7/15/24
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:
US Secret Service understaffed but we hiring 87,000 IRS agents.
understaffed or mis staffed? Has Obama's security team been cut??? What about Hunters?
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In reply to gabehcoud • 1:40p, 7/15/24
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This is Qanon level idiocy
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
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1:43p, 7/15/24
The shooter:

Was influenced.

The govt. had control of this kid through their psyop treadstone type program. He was trained/coached/persuaded on how to do this and the agriculture building was left unmanned on purpose.
The donation to Act Blue was the introduction of the potential shooter and then Treadstone looked into him and deemed him a candidate with rifle experience. They spent lots of time with him and even got him to register as a Republican.

The odds that that kid makes it on top of that building with A: No SS sniper posted at a high elevation point 130 yards away B: Dodges all the cops C: Not be seen by Snipers/Spotters ........... There is a 0% chance of this happening without internal knowledge/assistance

This was a hit organized by our govt at the highest level.


ETA: The FBI has his the shooter's phone. It will be the JFK conspiracy on steroids.
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