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agsalaska said:

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GAC06 said:

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agsalaska said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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I didn't say it was a difficult shot. The first one was on target until Trump turned his head. Then the guy did spray.

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I think we're saying the same thing. If the first one was the ear shot, the rest are indicative of a guy who has not tried to shoot quickly before. It's hard to find your target again. Not sure how you could be as bad as him with any training though. That's why I don't think the people calling him well trained or referring to "well placed" shots (plural) are being honest.

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So I know I replied to Gac06, but I agree with all of that. He was probably not a competent shooter, but there ain't nothing easy about shooting a gun at a human being, much less the most powerful one knowing you are going to die seconds later.

That's a hard shot and he almost pulled it off.

Sorry, I'm still torn up by reading that.

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I think you're editorializing. The shots from 150 yards aren't hard, at all. If he was rattled by police right before, that would change things.

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Maybe we are just talking past each other, but even if he wasnt spooked by a cop.... Have you ever shot a deer?

You don't think shooting the most powerful person in the world from 150 yards is hard?

I get that, in a vaccum, a 150 yard shot with a scoped rifle is easy.

But this shot, this particlar shot, with all of the variables, was not an easy shot.

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I think we are definitely talking past each other. I think that was a routine shot for a competent shooter. I've shot deer with a rifle and people with a larger caliber.

The point, as I see it is that if this was a larger conspiracy "they" would have picked someone capable of a pretty easy shot.

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If you have shot people then you know exactly what I am talking about. There is nothing routine about a 20 year old kid with zero military training shooting anyone, much less the former and future President, from 150 yards with a rifle.

But yes we are just talking past each other. I get that the shot by itself is an easy shot. And I also agree that it is just gross incompetence and probably not some greater conspiracy.

But the conspiracy wing of Texags is going to eat it up.

🚨Wild video shows the shooter crawling into position while folks point him out to law enforcement at Trump rally. pic.twitter.com/pYRvkSWZSb

— Moshe Schwartz (@YWNReporter) July 15, 2024

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agsalaska said:

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GAC06 said:

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agsalaska said:

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GAC06 said:

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agsalaska said:

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Pinochet said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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I didn't say it was a difficult shot. The first one was on target until Trump turned his head. Then the guy did spray.

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I think we're saying the same thing. If the first one was the ear shot, the rest are indicative of a guy who has not tried to shoot quickly before. It's hard to find your target again. Not sure how you could be as bad as him with any training though. That's why I don't think the people calling him well trained or referring to "well placed" shots (plural) are being honest.

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So I know I replied to Gac06, but I agree with all of that. He was probably not a competent shooter, but there ain't nothing easy about shooting a gun at a human being, much less the most powerful one knowing you are going to die seconds later.

That's a hard shot and he almost pulled it off.

Sorry, I'm still torn up by reading that.

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I think you're editorializing. The shots from 150 yards aren't hard, at all. If he was rattled by police right before, that would change things.

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Maybe we are just talking past each other, but even if he wasnt spooked by a cop.... Have you ever shot a deer?

You don't think shooting the most powerful person in the world from 150 yards is hard?

I get that, in a vaccum, a 150 yard shot with a scoped rifle is easy.

But this shot, this particlar shot, with all of the variables, was not an easy shot.

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I think we are definitely talking past each other. I think that was a routine shot for a competent shooter. I've shot deer with a rifle and people with a larger caliber.

The point, as I see it is that if this was a larger conspiracy "they" would have picked someone capable of a pretty easy shot.

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If you have shot people then you know exactly what I am talking about. There is nothing routine about a 20 year old kid with zero military training shooting anyone, much less the former and future President, from 150 yards with a rifle.

But yes we are just talking past each other. I get that the shot by itself is an easy shot. And I also agree that it is just gross incompetence and probably not some greater conspiracy.

But the conspiracy wing of Texags is going to eat it up.

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I play golf. I can make nearly all of my three-foot putts. Even if it has some break, I'll make it. But I miss occasionally.

Give me the same putt to win the US Open on 72nd and that simple putt is a helluva tougher.

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Then imagine that if you miss it I am standing behind you with a gun to your head.....

It's crazy.

But I think we established that we were just talking passed each other.

It certainly didn't take some highly trained rifleman to make that shot. In a vacuum thats an easy shot.

But given the circumstances that was an extremely difficult shot and he proved how ****ty he was not from the first miss but the spray and prey that followed. Trump, and the world, got lucky.

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Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:

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A former classmate of the Trump shooter tells the Philadelphia Inquirer that he was “definitely” a “conservative”:

“He definitely was conservative. It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate…The majority of the class were on… pic.twitter.com/iX1NwEcukR

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) July 15, 2024

What it would take to go from Rep to Dem could be enough motivation IMO

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Talk is cheap, but money talks. He spent money to donate to democrats. Whatever anybody else says he might have been means a lot less than where the shooter put his money and his bullets. He donated to dems and tried to assassinate a Republican nominee for president. Not a conservative or a Republican.

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Republicans Against Trump is a trustworthy source of information.

Yeah people change. My good friend's sister was a Rush fan to the point of structuring her college schedule activities around his show's air time. We used to make fun of her because every time she opened her mouth something that Rush had said would come out of it. Fast forward to a couple of years after moving to Austin. Rush was the devil, we suspect that her nanny is really her lesbian lover & the real reason for her divorce, and one or both (not sure) of her kids are trans. I refuse to speak with her (life's too short) and the last time my friend had any contact with her was when their mom died. Complete 180 degree change in values measured in months. It happens.

This goes hard and is spot on!

Tom McDonald

-Bitch you missed 😎 pic.twitter.com/Z4uxwVcylY

— One Bad Dude (@OneBadDude_) July 14, 2024

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Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:

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A former classmate of the Trump shooter tells the Philadelphia Inquirer that he was “definitely” a “conservative”:

“He definitely was conservative. It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate…The majority of the class were on… pic.twitter.com/iX1NwEcukR

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) July 15, 2024

What it would take to go from Rep to Dem could be enough motivation IMO

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Talk is cheap, but money talks. He spent money to donate to democrats. Whatever anybody else says he might have been means a lot less than where the shooter put his money and his bullets. He donated to dems and tried to assassinate a Republican nominee for president. Not a conservative or a Republican.

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Republicans Against Trump is a trustworthy source of information.

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That's not what I am saying...I am saying that what ever mental/abuse/work circumstances that caused him to go from "Conservative" in high school to donating to a DEM PAC in a few years was probably enough to create the motivation to try and take out Trump.

Also, RpsAgainst Trump is quoting a news outlet.

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This goes hard and is spot on!

Tom McDonald

-Bitch you missed 😎 pic.twitter.com/Z4uxwVcylY

— One Bad Dude (@OneBadDude_) July 14, 2024

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It's good and all, I'll probably enjoy later on. Still too fresh for me though to gloat about the shooter missing by millimeters

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Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:

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A former classmate of the Trump shooter tells the Philadelphia Inquirer that he was “definitely” a “conservative”:

“He definitely was conservative. It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate…The majority of the class were on… pic.twitter.com/iX1NwEcukR

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) July 15, 2024

What it would take to go from Rep to Dem could be enough motivation IMO

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Talk is cheap, but money talks. He spent money to donate to democrats. Whatever anybody else says he might have been means a lot less than where the shooter put his money and his bullets. He donated to dems and tried to assassinate a Republican nominee for president. Not a conservative or a Republican.

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Plus, its pronouns are now WAS/WERE.

Rot in Hell!

agsalaska said:

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birdman said:

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agsalaska said:

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GAC06 said:

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agsalaska said:

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GAC06 said:

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agsalaska said:

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Pinochet said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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I didn't say it was a difficult shot. The first one was on target until Trump turned his head. Then the guy did spray.

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I think we're saying the same thing. If the first one was the ear shot, the rest are indicative of a guy who has not tried to shoot quickly before. It's hard to find your target again. Not sure how you could be as bad as him with any training though. That's why I don't think the people calling him well trained or referring to "well placed" shots (plural) are being honest.

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So I know I replied to Gac06, but I agree with all of that. He was probably not a competent shooter, but there ain't nothing easy about shooting a gun at a human being, much less the most powerful one knowing you are going to die seconds later.

That's a hard shot and he almost pulled it off.

Sorry, I'm still torn up by reading that.

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I think you're editorializing. The shots from 150 yards aren't hard, at all. If he was rattled by police right before, that would change things.

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Maybe we are just talking past each other, but even if he wasnt spooked by a cop.... Have you ever shot a deer?

You don't think shooting the most powerful person in the world from 150 yards is hard?

I get that, in a vaccum, a 150 yard shot with a scoped rifle is easy.

But this shot, this particlar shot, with all of the variables, was not an easy shot.

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I think we are definitely talking past each other. I think that was a routine shot for a competent shooter. I've shot deer with a rifle and people with a larger caliber.

The point, as I see it is that if this was a larger conspiracy "they" would have picked someone capable of a pretty easy shot.

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If you have shot people then you know exactly what I am talking about. There is nothing routine about a 20 year old kid with zero military training shooting anyone, much less the former and future President, from 150 yards with a rifle.

But yes we are just talking past each other. I get that the shot by itself is an easy shot. And I also agree that it is just gross incompetence and probably not some greater conspiracy.

But the conspiracy wing of Texags is going to eat it up.

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I play golf. I can make nearly all of my three-foot putts. Even if it has some break, I'll make it. But I miss occasionally.

Give me the same putt to win the US Open on 72nd and that simple putt is a helluva tougher.

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Then imagine that if you miss it I am standing behind you with a gun to your head.....

It's crazy.

But I think we established that we were just talking passed each other.

It certainly didn't take some highly trained rifleman to make that shot. In a vacuum thats an easy shot.

But given the circumstances that was an extremely difficult shot and he proved how ****ty he was not from the first miss but the spray and prey that followed. Trump, and the world, got lucky.

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I think your disconnect is that a normal person would be stressed and unable to make the otherwise easy shot. This dip**** was not a normal person, as exhibited by his shooting into a crowd. You should not assume he felt any pressure at all, but maybe was in his own personal moment of zen.

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Has anything been discussed about the shooter's parents/family? I would like to know what they do for a living. And if they have any family members or friends associated in any way to the industrial complex where the shooter took his shot from.

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Both parents are licensed counselors the mother is physically handicapped

I thought Secret Service was under the dept of treasury, not DHS. Did that change after 911 and the creation of DHS?

This 20 yo is not some mastermind that did this all in his own. If that is the narrative from govt, they are in on it.

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There is way too much video of the shooter getting into position, being pointed out, etc and blatantly ignored by "authorities"…

This was a planned hit by elements of our own government…

It's quite literally the only explanation…

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that would take an awful lot of really evil people cooperating with each other

They've done it before…

This was establishment folks…both sides of the aisle…

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They've done it before…

This was establishment folks…both sides of the aisle…

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Who, specifically?

From the right, I'd start by looking at any R on that farce J6 committee…starting with Liz…

The list on the Left is probably much larger…but folks on both sides of the aisle absolutely fear Trump and do not want him in charge…

All of their other attempts to keep him from winning have failed…this was their Hail Mary…

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They've done it before…

This was establishment folks…both sides of the aisle…

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Who, specifically?

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1. Russia Russia Russia - a hoax, known from the beginning, and had ALOT of people involved
2. Hunter's laptop - Russian disinformation - again, a known haox that was broadcast by alot of people

off the top of my head.

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3. The last BS trial where Trump was found "guilty" of a felony. Corrupt judge, appointed from a list that he wasn't even on, overseeing that trial with so many errors one can hardly count. So bad, the SCOTUS made a ruling that was pretty specific to that BS that Merchan did.

Bingo

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There is way too much video of the shooter getting into position, being pointed out, etc and blatantly ignored by "authorities"…

This was a planned hit by elements of our own government…

It's quite literally the only explanation…

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So the government hired a 20 year old nobody to take out Trump? If your assertion is true, why wouldn't they hire someone they knew could hit him?

Charpie said:

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FireAg said:

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There is way too much video of the shooter getting into position, being pointed out, etc and blatantly ignored by "authorities"…

This was a planned hit by elements of our own government…

It's quite literally the only explanation…

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So the government hired a 20 year old nobody to take out Trump? If your assertion is true, why wouldn't they hire someone they knew could hit him?

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He was the only one that was willing to die over it?

Like Jimbo taking Petrino as his OC. When you are down to you 10th choice, you take what you can get.

I don't think they hired the killer. I do think they got intentionally lax with his security in the hopes that something might happen. Can't pose a bill to take away his security and then deny that. Also can't keep making "well, he wasn't the nominee yet" either to explain less security. He's a former president, clearly the nominee, and there is a lot of hate directed at him. High risk requires high security. They were good with seeing him killed while trying to maintain deniability

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Charpie said:

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FireAg said:

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There is way too much video of the shooter getting into position, being pointed out, etc and blatantly ignored by "authorities"…

This was a planned hit by elements of our own government…

It's quite literally the only explanation…

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So the government hired a 20 year old nobody to take out Trump? If your assertion is true, why wouldn't they hire someone they knew could hit him?

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He was the only one that was willing to die over it?

Like Jimbo taking Petrino as his OC. When you are down to you 10th choice, you take what you can get.

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But in your last comment, that wasn't the case at all.

The shooter was climbing on the roof. Everyone was yelling. A cop comes up to him and the shooter points his gun to the cop. The cop retreats. The failure here?

• The cop not willing to take a bullet.
• He very well could have radio'ed or yelled, "GUN." They were all close enough that it would have alerted the SS and they could have taken Trump away.
• The SS for not extending the perimeter of coverage. They should have had the sharpshooters scanning that area.

I am so glad and thankful that Trump is safe. He's a certified badass. I mean, no one tackled him until after he realized what was going on. HE KNEW THAT THE HECK TO DO. I had already decided to vote for Trump beforehand. Now it's solidified.

But sometimes, the truth is just as simple as it looks.

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Like everything, the CIA spies on everyone and knew this was about to happen.

• They purposefully left open the best spot for a shot.
• They purposefully didn't staff SS adequately.
• They purposefully put agents on Trump that were such bad SS agents, they ducked at the first sound of fire instead of going to protect Trump. There is a photo of this.
• They knew this was about to happen as just a little while ago, the left put a bill that would strip Trump of all SS support.

The list goes on and on and on....

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You give the CIA too much credit. You've watched/read too many spy thrillers.

Charpie said:

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Charpie said:

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FireAg said:

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There is way too much video of the shooter getting into position, being pointed out, etc and blatantly ignored by "authorities"…

This was a planned hit by elements of our own government…

It's quite literally the only explanation…

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So the government hired a 20 year old nobody to take out Trump? If your assertion is true, why wouldn't they hire someone they knew could hit him?

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He was the only one that was willing to die over it?

Like Jimbo taking Petrino as his OC. When you are down to you 10th choice, you take what you can get.

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But in your last comment, that wasn't the case at all.

The shooter was climbing on the roof. Everyone was yelling. A cop comes up to him and the shooter points his gun to the cop. The cop retreats. The failure here?

• The cop not willing to take a bullet.
• He very well could have radio'ed or yelled, "GUN." They were all close enough that it would have alerted the SS and they could have taken Trump away.
• The SS for not extending the perimeter of coverage. They should have had the sharpshooters scanning that area.

I am so glad and thankful that Trump is safe. He's a certified badass. I mean, no one tackled him until after he realized what was going on. HE KNEW THAT THE HECK TO DO. I had already decided to vote for Trump beforehand. Now it's solidified.

But sometimes, the truth is just as simple as it looks.

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No. I don't think the shooter was hired by anyone. Just giving a reason to your question.