That's just him doing his Mr Burns from the Simpsons impersonation

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he looks like Mr. Smithers

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Mr. Burns

thanks yeah i just realized when you said that. I havent watched Simpsons since I was like 9 years olds because it hasnt been funny since then.

well, i guess we know that it was him, then.

No reason to take the video off if it was just a random kid that looked like him.

Streisand Effect.

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thanks yeah i just realized when you said that. I havent watched Simpsons since I was like 9 years olds because it hasnt been funny since then.

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seven or so good seasons then crash and burn.

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That photo is from February 13, 2024. 5 months ago. His hair would have to go from that to this in 5 months. No way that happened.

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Uploaded then doesn't mean it was taken then.

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that is the kid from Colorado who thought he looked liked the shooter and had the same shirt trolling last night until took his account private

I want to know if this was orchestrated over weeks of spur of the moment

I've done alot of shooting. I consider myself a good shot. I would not consider a 160 yd head shot, under duress, a gimme shot by any means. If it was a 5.56/.223 chambered AR, then wind could have also come into play at that distance.

Regardless of the shooter's skills, or lack thereof, I'm just glad he missed.

Are you telling me that drones are not used in these operations? I haven't heard one word about drones.

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Stay on the ladder, ducked just below the roof line, fire rounds into the sky

1) SS tackles Trump off stage

2) snipers shoot bad guy

3) you're a living hero

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Yeah, wildly firing bullets into the sky around several thousand people while hanging off a ladder with one hand sounds like a GREAT idea.

Not to mention you're assuming #2 happens before sniper guy comes over and shoots you in the face. No guarantee that the snipers are going to recognize him as the source of the shots (which of course he isn't, in this scenario).

Although one hopes that the SS would just shoot anyone on a roof with a rifle around a Presidential candidate first, and figure out what the hell he thought he was doing on the roof later.

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I want to repeat, and can absolutely confirm, the USSS Director Kim Cheatle has repeatedly turned down requests for a larger security footprint around President Trump. Despite knowing the threat level is catastrophic.
Resign tonight. https://t.co/v3UQyTt1dK

— Dan Bongino (@dbongino) July 14, 2024

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Cheatle denied this in statements from his office. Someone is lying...

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uhhhh

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I blame it on lack of coffee.

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long ass way away. In fairly windy conditions.

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150 yards tops is not a long ass way away. The wind was also not that significant of a factor unless this was a massive subsonic round tumbling at around 1000fps

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https://www.wtae.com/article/trump-rally-gunman-distance-stage-aerials/61589304

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The Secret Service noted Crooks fired around eight shots at a distance between 200 to 300 yards away from Trump with an AR-style weapon.

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The secret service is wrong. Google earth exists and people have put up maps showing the distances already.

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lol. Yep. Bad reporting.

Still, 500' is a long shot if he just spin and shot. If the cop was breathing down on him like reported, he wouldn't had the time to get fully set and braced.

Again, if the report I commented on is true, then this guy was an expert marksman.

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160 yards is not a long shot by any means. It's actually a fairly easy shot to pull off. Marines--every single one- are trained to fire from 200, 300, and 500 meters in Boot Camp. The 200 meter shots are actually rapid fire. That's with iron sights, in a standing, or 'off hand' shooting position. No scope or additional aid at all.

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lol. Marines.

That's kind of my point.

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Well, the point is, it's not that hard. That kind of shooting isn't after years of training. It's one of the first and most basic things they teach you. Even guys who are poor shots can do that. It's very simple stuff, and done without anything but lining up the sights.

But, by all means, keep thinking that's a long shot.

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Head shot, perfect, 500' away with a cop trying to stop you, swinging around and pulling the trigger within seconds is not an easy shot.

No way

Nope.

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The cop ,was NOT trying to stop him. The cop was climbing back down the ladder.

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Review the report
1. Cop pops his head up
2. Shooter points his gun at cop
3. Cop ducks under
4. Shooter immediately turns and shoots Trump
5. Shooter makes perfect head shot if not for Trump turning his head right as shooter pulls trigger

That's about a 9 square inch target.

That's an extremely hard shot.

Those who shoot and those who don't is incredibly obvious

A few posts earlier some doc tried to act like firing a service pistol with one hand was difficult for a trained officer

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Those who shoot and those who don't is incredibly obvious

A few posts earlier some doc tried to act like firing a service pistol with one hand was difficult for a trained officer

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Its all over this damn thread. Don't talk about guns and shooting if you have no idea how to use one yourself

Not trying to be a jerk, but do you shoot? Just trying to understand where you are getting your basis on this being extremely hard. Understand he may have been rushed, but I would classify 125-150 yards laying prone as fairly easy. But thats my opinion. Don't know what kind of glass he had, if any. Iron sights would be more difficult for sure.

Just a little sidebar of knowledge, but since Benny Thompson's bill was clearly meant to assassinate Trump, I thought I'd also edify y'all that there were 7 other Dem co-sponsors.

Short article, but still educational. Every sponsor of that bill should be investigated---properly, not by our DOJ/FBI.

That bill was specifically written to enhance Trump being killed.

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Is it true he as using irons only?

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That's not that difficult. My 15 year old nephew could pull that off all day long.

I'm assuming you don't shoot much? Especially because you keep using feet as your unit of measure. No shooter does that.

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The 3gun world does and we often compete in matches out to 600 sometimes 700 yards

Just sayin.

Oh and MOA uses feet as its system and is very common.

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Not trying to be a jerk, but do you shoot? Just trying to understand where you are getting your basis on this being extremely difficult. Understand he may have been rushed, but I would classify 125-150 yards laying prone as fairly easy. But thats my opinion. Don't know what kind of glass he had, if any. Iron sights would be more difficult for sure.

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Was he laying prone? We see him dead, but if a cop was on him, would be difficult to get down in a prone position, line up the shot and take it.

Remember, the report was that it was immediatly after he pointed his grub at the cop. And the cop on the ladder at best would be a 90 degree angle from Trump and probably closer to 180. Dude is going to put the ladder where no SS can see it.

And no. I'm not an active shooter. Very recreational.

It is easy. With glass at that distance and prone, it's easy.

And it was easy for Oswald to make 2 head shots in a moving vehicle.

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Those who shoot and those who don't is incredibly obvious

A few posts earlier some doc tried to act like firing a service pistol with one hand was difficult for a trained officer

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Its all over this damn thread. Don't talk about guns and shooting if you have no idea how to use one yourself

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You both nailed it. The people on these threads acting like using an AR in assassination attempt from less than 200 yards is the same as a smooth bore muzzle loader are just as frustrating.

The second the guy pointed a rifle at the cop sent up the ladder to investigate there should have been wailing out an all stop on the radio.

Why this didn't happen we'll never know.

Thats like rule one in anything.

If you see a fire, yell fire, fire, fire before you potentially die in a fire and no one knows.

The most basic response.

This is day 1 of boot camp or any sort of training about anything really.

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On the question of capturing the actual bullet on camera. Yes, very possible. Assuming a 1/1000 sec camera shutter speed (common for action photos) and a bullet traveling at 2,500 fps (55 gr bullet with 16" AR barrel at 125 yds) .. the captured image of the bullet trail would be 2.5 feet long. About what we saw.

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I think most of what is seen in that photo is biological material and not necessarily all bullet contrail.

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Biological material doesn't follow a linear path when hit by a high velocity projectile, if that was biological it would spray and form a fan pattern. That is all projectile.

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Sorry if already posted but that's a vapor trail according to former sniper guy on news this morning.

Still don't understand how the guy was laying prone on a hot tin roof in July wearing shorts and a t-shirt with unprotected knees and elbows.

Photos showed the dude laying there like he lounging at the pool.

Because nobody asked

My thoughts on "the shot"

Using budget gear that is a very easy shot. Lots of shooters on texags could make this shot repeatedly without much prep with guns they have in their homes as they sit now.

But shooting under pressure is completely different. Just in the competitive shooting world I have seen combat vets, cops etc. minds just melt from the pressure of shooting in a match. Its a completely different world when the timing buzzer sounds for a lot of guys. And I would expect the stress to be off the charts in this very real world situation.

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On the question of capturing the actual bullet on camera. Yes, very possible. Assuming a 1/1000 sec camera shutter speed (common for action photos) and a bullet traveling at 2,500 fps (55 gr bullet with 16" AR barrel at 125 yds) .. the captured image of the bullet trail would be 2.5 feet long. About what we saw.

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I think most of what is seen in that photo is biological material and not necessarily all bullet contrail.

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Biological material doesn't follow a linear path when hit by a high velocity projectile, if that was biological it would spray and form a fan pattern. That is all projectile.

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Sorry if already posted but that's a vapor trail according to former sniper guy on news this morning.

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That's a projectile moving too fast for the shutter speed,

Says every photog ever.

I think we just need to clarify - the duress of the situation and turning your head away from the cop you know discovered you and very well may about the shoot you while your head is turned - that is incredibly difficult even if the shot itself isn't particularly difficult

I don't disagree with that