It's Jordan B. Peterson, a Canadian clinical psychologist, and a successful one. I know that a lot of people here will have branded him a "right wing" person, but that is only because his philosophy about life has been embroiled, lately, in the culture wars, by disagreeing with the obvious, but here we are.
The premise of his book, 12 Rules for Life - Antidote to Chaos - is that life is suffering, and the goal of life is progress and NOT happiness. Why? Because if the goal of life is happiness, and you are not happy, then, by default, you are a failure.
Put down your torches and pitchforks and listen.
It's not about politics, it's about being and living correctly, and finding forward progress.
This video has 0% politics and 100% introspection needed by a lot of people in our modern world.
It's Jordan B. Peterson, a Canadian clinical psychologist, and a successful one. I know that a lot of people here will have branded him a "right wing" person, but that is only because his philosophy about life has been embroiled, lately, in the culture wars, by disagreeing with the obvious, but here we are.
The premise of his book, 12 Rules for Life - Antidote to Chaos - is that life is suffering, and the goal of life is progress and NOT happiness. Why? Because if the goal of life is happiness, and you are not happy, then, by default, you are a failure.
Put down your torches and pitchforks and listen.
It's not about politics, it's about being and living correctly, and finding forward progress.
This video has 0% politics and 100% introspection needed by a lot of people in our modern world.
as an aside: This video has literally saved my life.
First, I am a big fan of Peterson so I enter the chat biased and I admit it.
That said, I know that the bolded part is truth because it is how I approached adult life whether I knew it or not and frankly I didn't know it. Then.
I graduated from A&M and took a job I didn't really like and floundered for a few months and was very close to packing up and moving home (2000 miles away). Then I met my wife. Then I started working on changing jobs. Then I focused on my finances, investing, getting out of debt. Then getting her out of debt. Then I switched jobs, then switched again, then ended up with a company for a decade that truly changed our lives and futures. Marriage, kids, houses, etc.
I don't ever recall thinking about my happiness. That's weak sauce, It was absolutely about progress, providing, protecting, growing. It drives you. It makes you better, sharper, tougher. Peterson is 100% spot on. In particular for men. We need structure, goals, and consequences. We need responsibility. Happiness? I'll sleep longer when I'm dead.
It's Jordan B. Peterson, a Canadian clinical psychologist, and a successful one. I know that a lot of people here will have branded him a "right wing" person, but that is only because his philosophy about life has been embroiled, lately, in the culture wars, by disagreeing with the obvious, but here we are.
The premise of his book, 12 Rules for Life - Antidote to Chaos - is that life is suffering, and the goal of life is progress and NOT happiness. Why? Because if the goal of life is happiness, and you are not happy, then, by default, you are a failure.
Put down your torches and pitchforks and listen.
It's not about politics, it's about being and living correctly, and finding forward progress.
This video has 0% politics and 100% introspection needed by a lot of people in our modern world.
as an aside: This video has literally saved my life.
First, I am a big fan of Peterson so I enter the chat biased and I admit it.
That said, I know that the bolded part is truth because it is how I approached adult life whether I knew it or not and frankly I didn't know it. Then.
I graduated from A&M and took a job I didn't really like and floundered for a few months and was very close to packing up and moving home (2000 miles away). Then I met my wife. Then I started working on changing jobs. Then I focused on my finances, investing, getting out of debt. Then getting her out of debt. Then I switched jobs, then switched again, then ended up with a company for a decade that truly changed our lives and futures. Marriage, kids, houses, etc.
I don't ever recall thinking about my happiness. That's weak sauce, It was absolutely about progress, providing, protecting, growing. It drives you. It makes you better, sharper, tougher. Peterson is 100% spot on. In particular for men. We need structure, goals, and consequences. We need responsibility. Happiness? I'll sleep longer when I'm dead.
That's the entire premise, and why our society is going so wayward in the direction is has been going.
It's Jordan B. Peterson, a Canadian clinical psychologist, and a successful one. I know that a lot of people here will have branded him a "right wing" person, but that is only because his philosophy about life has been embroiled, lately, in the culture wars, by disagreeing with the obvious, but here we are.
The premise of his book, 12 Rules for Life - Antidote to Chaos - is that life is suffering, and the goal of life is progress and NOT happiness. Why? Because if the goal of life is happiness, and you are not happy, then, by default, you are a failure.
Put down your torches and pitchforks and listen.
It's not about politics, it's about being and living correctly, and finding forward progress.
This video has 0% politics and 100% introspection needed by a lot of people in our modern world.
as an aside: This video has literally saved my life.
First, I am a big fan of Peterson so I enter the chat biased and I admit it.
That said, I know that the bolded part is truth because it is how I approached adult life whether I knew it or not and frankly I didn't know it. Then.
I graduated from A&M and took a job I didn't really like and floundered for a few months and was very close to packing up and moving home (2000 miles away). Then I met my wife. Then I started working on changing jobs. Then I focused on my finances, investing, getting out of debt. Then getting her out of debt. Then I switched jobs, then switched again, then ended up with a company for a decade that truly changed our lives and futures. Marriage, kids, houses, etc.
I don't ever recall thinking about my happiness. That's weak sauce, It was absolutely about progress, providing, protecting, growing. It drives you. It makes you better, sharper, tougher. Peterson is 100% spot on. In particular for men. We need structure, goals, and consequences. We need responsibility. Happiness? I'll sleep longer when I'm dead.
I would wager that the term "happiness" is often misunderstood in a philosophical sense. If you look at the classical realism/liberalism of our Founding Fathers, happiness was man's "end" or what he was trying to achieve. This is why the Declaration of Independence says "pursuit of happiness". Everything else, including that which you describe, is a means to an end. Progress, by definition, cannot be an "end" or purpose.
That said, happiness is not some fixed state of nirvana that is achieved one day and therefore life is complete. It's a complex idea, and what happiness is to one individual will be different for another individual. It can even change through the various stages of life: see Kierkegaards spheres of existence.
For you (and for me), living in Kierkegaards ethical sphere brings us happiness. This sphere encapsulates much of what you describe: marriage, kids, house, responsibility, structure, goals, etc.
So my point is, I like Jordan a lot, but I think he's presenting a simplified concept of happiness that allows him to draw a distinction that isn't really there.
Or it could be that he understands most people would define happiness as some form of contentment, which it is not.
If I remember correctly, the Founding Fathers originally wrote "ownership of property" but then realized not everyone can nor should own property, so to cast a wider political net they changed it to "the pursuit of happiness".
Happiness being an economic phrase for pursuit of their own wants and needs.
Or it could be that he understands most people would define happiness as some form of contentment, which it is not.
In the video, he actually states contentment is not happiness.
Related note: Scott Adams book about how to fail and still win addresses goals vs systems. I found this topic to be very helpful professionally and personally.
Basically: a goal leaves you in a state of permanent failure until you reach it. But a system helps you be successful every time you execute the system... which would eventually lead to accomplishing your goal. For example: "I want to lose 10 pounds" is a goal that might take you months to complete. Maybe you burn out and quit before you get there. But "I'm gonna walk 1 mile before work" and "I'm gonna drink water instead of cokes" are systems where you are successful every time you do it.
It's Jordan B. Peterson, a Canadian clinical psychologist, and a successful one. I know that a lot of people here will have branded him a "right wing" person, but that is only because his philosophy about life has been embroiled, lately, in the culture wars, by disagreeing with the obvious, but here we are.
The premise of his book, 12 Rules for Life - Antidote to Chaos - is that life is suffering, and the goal of life is progress and NOT happiness. Why? Because if the goal of life is happiness, and you are not happy, then, by default, you are a failure.
Put down your torches and pitchforks and listen.
It's not about politics, it's about being and living correctly, and finding forward progress.
This video has 0% politics and 100% introspection needed by a lot of people in our modern world.
12 Rules has been on my reading list for years. Everyone I know who has read it, Democrat/Republican/Socialist/Anarchist, raves about it. Somehow, it keeps getting stuck behind other books for me. I'm currently 2/3 through Stanley Karnow's Pulitzer-winning Vietnam: A History and 1/3 through King's Doctor Sleep. I'm hitting The Indifferent Stars Above and Beevor's Stalingrad next and then beginning what I call "The Four Horseman of the Bookpocalypse" by going (1) Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (2) Kotkin's Stalin (3) Mao: The Unknown Story (4) and When the War was Over (Pol Pot).
I think I might try to sneak this in as a breather between perusing the deaths of 2% of the entire world.
I am all in on JBP having listened to some 500+ hours. This short vid is good but he leaves out all the biblical verses that support this notion and I think the church is missing his part. The instruction and inspiration to go out into the world courageously and work hard pursuing a meaningful life. You have to be in prayer, while holding up the staff, and down below fighting the enemy all at once.
My most recent nugget from him is this. "Parents you can be friends with your children when they are young or friends with them as adults but NOT both."
It's Jordan B. Peterson, a Canadian clinical psychologist, and a successful one. I know that a lot of people here will have branded him a "right wing" person, but that is only because his philosophy about life has been embroiled, lately, in the culture wars, by disagreeing with the obvious, but here we are.
The premise of his book, 12 Rules for Life - Antidote to Chaos - is that life is suffering, and the goal of life is progress and NOT happiness. Why? Because if the goal of life is happiness, and you are not happy, then, by default, you are a failure.
Put down your torches and pitchforks and listen.
It's not about politics, it's about being and living correctly, and finding forward progress.
This video has 0% politics and 100% introspection needed by a lot of people in our modern world.
as an aside: This video has literally saved my life.
First, I am a big fan of Peterson so I enter the chat biased and I admit it.
That said, I know that the bolded part is truth because it is how I approached adult life whether I knew it or not and frankly I didn't know it. Then.
I graduated from A&M and took a job I didn't really like and floundered for a few months and was very close to packing up and moving home (2000 miles away). Then I met my wife. Then I started working on changing jobs. Then I focused on my finances, investing, getting out of debt. Then getting her out of debt. Then I switched jobs, then switched again, then ended up with a company for a decade that truly changed our lives and futures. Marriage, kids, houses, etc.
I don't ever recall thinking about my happiness. That's weak sauce, It was absolutely about progress, providing, protecting, growing. It drives you. It makes you better, sharper, tougher. Peterson is 100% spot on. In particular for men. We need structure, goals, and consequences. We need responsibility. Happiness? I'll sleep longer when I'm dead.
That's the entire premise, and why our society is going so wayward in the direction is has been going.
Well I'm listening now and will arbitrate this matter, cause I too believe the drive to improve your station in life, is life... for family.
It's Jordan B. Peterson, a Canadian clinical psychologist, and a successful one. I know that a lot of people here will have branded him a "right wing" person, but that is only because his philosophy about life has been embroiled, lately, in the culture wars, by disagreeing with the obvious, but here we are.
The premise of his book, 12 Rules for Life - Antidote to Chaos - is that life is suffering, and the goal of life is progress and NOT happiness. Why? Because if the goal of life is happiness, and you are not happy, then, by default, you are a failure.
Put down your torches and pitchforks and listen.
It's not about politics, it's about being and living correctly, and finding forward progress.
This video has 0% politics and 100% introspection needed by a lot of people in our modern world.
12 Rules has been on my reading list for years. Everyone I know who has read it, Democrat/Republican/Socialist/Anarchist, raves about it. Somehow, it keeps getting stuck behind other books for me. I'm currently 2/3 through Stanley Karnow's Pulitzer-winning Vietnam: A History and 1/3 through King's Doctor Sleep. I'm hitting The Indifferent Stars Above and Beevor's Stalingrad next and then beginning what I call "The Four Horseman of the Bookpocalypse" by going (1) Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (2) Kotkin's Stalin (3) Mao: The Unknown Story (4) and When the War was Over (Pol Pot).
I think I might try to sneak this in as a breather between perusing the deaths of 2% of the entire world.
That's a very long, not so humble brag way of saying "l've been meaning to read that."
Either way, it's a great book. I hate that liberals have painted JBP with such a broad brush. His insight can help pretty much anyone who is human if they just read or listen.
Unfortunately, they threw the baby out with the bath water because he doesnt think than men can get pregnant and acknowledges that there are physiological differences between the sexes, and that women are not constantly oppressed victims - and if they are, it is a project of their own making.
This is also the message in The Subtle Art of Not Giving A **** by Mark Manson.
"Happiness" is achieved by acknowledging, confronting, and solving problems.
Maybe usefulness is the correct term.
JBP calls, in the talk as well, specifically "happiness" as we think of it is "hedonistic delight" -- which is both fleeting and difficult to maintain.
This talk also explains so much about how toxic social media is. Social media is focused on "happiness" or "hedonistic delight". You want people to like you, you want people to see you, you want people to want to be you, but you are chasing a mirage. No amount of likes, views, or attention will ever satiate your "hedonistic delight".
Only progress will fulfill you. But progress is a long road, and hard, and it makes you tired, and you cant take a snapshot of it, slap a comment on it, and have people like it -- you can only do so looking back at who you were last year and comparing who you are now to that person.
It's Jordan B. Peterson, a Canadian clinical psychologist, and a successful one. I know that a lot of people here will have branded him a "right wing" person, but that is only because his philosophy about life has been embroiled, lately, in the culture wars, by disagreeing with the obvious, but here we are.
The premise of his book, 12 Rules for Life - Antidote to Chaos - is that life is suffering, and the goal of life is progress and NOT happiness. Why? Because if the goal of life is happiness, and you are not happy, then, by default, you are a failure.
Put down your torches and pitchforks and listen.
It's not about politics, it's about being and living correctly, and finding forward progress.
This video has 0% politics and 100% introspection needed by a lot of people in our modern world.
12 Rules has been on my reading list for years. Everyone I know who has read it, Democrat/Republican/Socialist/Anarchist, raves about it. Somehow, it keeps getting stuck behind other books for me. I'm currently 2/3 through Stanley Karnow's Pulitzer-winning Vietnam: A History and 1/3 through King's Doctor Sleep. I'm hitting The Indifferent Stars Above and Beevor's Stalingrad next and then beginning what I call "The Four Horseman of the Bookpocalypse" by going (1) Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (2) Kotkin's Stalin (3) Mao: The Unknown Story (4) and When the War was Over (Pol Pot).
I think I might try to sneak this in as a breather between perusing the deaths of 2% of the entire world.
That's a very long, not so humble brag way of saying "l've been meaning to read that."
It sounds a lot cooler than saying, "I've been lazy."
It's Jordan B. Peterson, a Canadian clinical psychologist, and a successful one. I know that a lot of people here will have branded him a "right wing" person, but that is only because his philosophy about life has been embroiled, lately, in the culture wars, by disagreeing with the obvious, but here we are.
The premise of his book, 12 Rules for Life - Antidote to Chaos - is that life is suffering, and the goal of life is progress and NOT happiness. Why? Because if the goal of life is happiness, and you are not happy, then, by default, you are a failure.
Put down your torches and pitchforks and listen.
It's not about politics, it's about being and living correctly, and finding forward progress.
This video has 0% politics and 100% introspection needed by a lot of people in our modern world.
as an aside: This video has literally saved my life.
First, I am a big fan of Peterson so I enter the chat biased and I admit it.
That said, I know that the bolded part is truth because it is how I approached adult life whether I knew it or not and frankly I didn't know it. Then.
I graduated from A&M and took a job I didn't really like and floundered for a few months and was very close to packing up and moving home (2000 miles away). Then I met my wife. Then I started working on changing jobs. Then I focused on my finances, investing, getting out of debt. Then getting her out of debt. Then I switched jobs, then switched again, then ended up with a company for a decade that truly changed our lives and futures. Marriage, kids, houses, etc.
I don't ever recall thinking about my happiness. That's weak sauce, It was absolutely about progress, providing, protecting, growing. It drives you. It makes you better, sharper, tougher. Peterson is 100% spot on. In particular for men. We need structure, goals, and consequences. We need responsibility. Happiness? I'll sleep longer when I'm dead.
Either way, it's a great book. I hate that liberals have painted JBP with such a broad brush. His insight can help pretty much anyone who is human if they just read or listen.
Unfortunately, they threw the baby out with the bath water because he doesnt think than men can get pregnant and acknowledges that there are physiological differences between the sexes, and that women are not constantly oppressed victims - and if they are, it is a project of their own making.
There will be times in your life when it will take everything you have to face what is in front of you, instead of hiding away from a truth so terrible that the only thing worse is the falsehood you long to replace it with.
This talk was in Brisbane, AU. Im not sure when it took place, but it seems like it was before the 12 Rules were distilled into a book.
"It's easy to grin when your ship comes in and you've got the stock market beat. But the man worthwhile is the man who can smile when his shorts are too tight in the seat."
"It's easy to grin when your ship comes in and you've got the stock market beat. But the man worthwhile is the man who can smile when his shorts are too tight in the seat."
