Bad, bad, bad Sharp:

https://orec.tamu.edu/sb17-faqs/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=frequently%20asked%20questions&utm_campaign=SB17-system-guidance-Sept7-2023

Basically, do DEI the best you can right up to the edge of what is allowable under state law.

Bad Sharp: Kathleen McElroy. It took donors to be up in arms to short circuit that one.

Bad Sharp: supporting DEI while it was still legal under state law:

https://americanmind.org/salvo/how-texas-am-went-woke/

Good Sharp. Defense contractors moving to Bryan:

https://www.bryantx.gov/strategic-armory-corps-selects-bryan-for-their-new-world-headquarters/

Summary: great at getting federal defense dollars into BCS and TAMU. No doubt that relationship with Gates helped in that regard.

Terrible at supporting the advancement of Marxist DEI evangelism at Texas A&M.

Terrible choice to grow TAMU to 70,000 students.

I'll post the one that's most meaningful to me. He had the President's home, that was built for Sul Ross in the 1800's, demolished. Why don't we have nice old architecture on campus? Because we tear it down to make way for storage closets or bathrooms or whatever the hell they put in its place. I swear we are our own worst enemies.

Bevel. Wouldn't get lights to work on prior stadium.
Didn't build lazy river on new stadium. Tells us all we need to know.

Here is a new one: https://www.kbtx.com/2024/07/01/gender-affirming-services-end-texas-am-university-health/

Anti-taxxer said:

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He still owes f16 the reward money for uncovering the racist.

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This

Red Pear Realty said:

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I'll post the one that's most meaningful to me. He had the President's home, that was built for Sul Ross in the 1800's, demolished.

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While I agree that the university has been stupid in many, many, many of its architectural decisions, this is not correct,

James Earl Rudder was living in the Sul Ross House when it was destroyed by fire in 1963.

The house torn down in 2020 was the 1965 replacement.

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Anti-taxxer said:

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He still owes f16 the reward money for uncovering the racist.

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I thought Young promised the money?

https://www.kbtx.com/2020/06/25/am-president-offers-reward-for-info-on-racist-incident-on-campus/

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Texas A&M's President Michael K. Young has released a statement following an incident involving racist notes left on a student's car Wednesday...

President Young offered a $1,200 reward for valid information that leads to identifying the person or people responsible for a racist incident at an apartment complex on Texas A&M's property.

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Leave it to the engineers here to make a technically correct statement that still misses the point. Yes, the house had elements that held over from the home built for Sul Ross. Yes, it was one of the oldest buildings on campus, and was one of the few that didn't look like it got picked up out of Soviet Russia and dropped on campus.

Pretty sure the Ross house burned to the ground. Furniture was saved. What part of the Ross house are you claiming was in the 1965 rebuild?

And you missed that I agree that the administration seems to care little for history or architecture.

Red Pear Realty said:

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Leave it to the engineers here to make a technically correct statement that still misses the point. Yes, the house had elements that held over from the home built for Sul Ross. Yes, it was one of the oldest buildings on campus, and was one of the few that didn't look like it got picked up out of Soviet Russia and dropped on campus.

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I'm pretty sure buildings older than 1965 are still around.

And the 1965 President's home is not even in the same spot as the Ross House.


https://texags.com/forums/35/topics/818573

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fossil_ag

This is a home most of you never had a chance to see. This was the President's Home on campus. It was built in 1892 for President Lawrence Sullivan Ross and was considered to be a "grand mansion." The home served as the residence of all Presidents until it burned in 1963.

The home was located approximately 150 yards in back of the rear of the current All Faiths Chapel. I visited in the home twice during the administration of David Morgan. The home was truly elegant and the furniture was antique, many pieces dating back to the days of Sully and family.

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Ross House before fire

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Ross House post fire

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[url=https://flic.kr/p/8iATLi][/url]

He let Tech get a vet and dental school

Red Pear Realty said:

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Leave it to the engineers here to make a technically correct statement that still misses the point. Yes, the house had elements that held over from the home built for Sul Ross. Yes, it was one of the oldest buildings on campus, and was one of the few that didn't look like it got picked up out of Soviet Russia and dropped on campus.

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Dean's an engineer? You missed on so many levels.

You're right. A&M's campus is top notch. Everyone says so. Right up there with the likes of Moscow, Pyongyang, and the rest of the brutalists. No reason to do anything different from what we've got.

Is there any buildings on campus you approve of?

Just because you were wrong about the Ross House, doesn't mean he disagree with you about the broader point. Admit your poor memory and take the "W"

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My son had to get the jab to attend school.

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When and where? Employees were not required. I don't remember students being required, either.

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I'm an employee of the TAMU system. I can GUARANTEE that we were not required to get the jab.

Red Pear Realty said:

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I'll post the one that's most meaningful to me. He had the President's home, that was built for Sul Ross in the 1800's, demolished. Why don't we have nice old architecture on campus? Because we tear it down to make way for storage closets or bathrooms or whatever the hell they put in its place. I swear we are our own worst enemies.

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Didn't know about that. That's terribad.

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Is there any buildings on campus you approve of?

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Not a lot to be proud of that was built post war era. Bonfire memorial is an exception.

Him giving the fake National Chamionship trophy to Jimbo. Him trying to make 12 empty seats at Kyle Field. Him making A&M a diploma mill. All Sharpe cared about was money. He should have left years ago.

Red Pear Realty said:

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You're right. A&M's campus is top notch. Everyone says so. Right up there with the likes of Moscow, Pyongyang, and the rest of the brutalists. No reason to do anything different from what we've got.

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I'm just saying CanyonAg77 will never be confused with an engineer. The man's a farmer - in the most Aggie way possible. He also knows his campusology. I'm responsible for some of that.

I, on the other hand, am an engineer and I completely agree our architecture has resembled Soviet style buildings since the mid-70's.

But back to the original topic, I'm a fan of John Sharp. I know he's made some bad decisions, but who doesn't? He's made some bold moves that benefited the A&M system. I'd say his ledger is going to end up in the plus column. That's my informed opinion and I'm probably the least likely on this whole forum to vote for a democrat.

Also, I love being able to exchange ideas and opinions freely. It makes this ol' Aggie heart happy.

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Love Gun said:

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When Kyle Field was being renovated, he wanted 12 empty seats on the student side to symbolize the 12th Man. Completely out of touch.

I'm not even an Aggie, and understand the 12th Man (singular) better then he does.

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I believe those 12 seats were to symbolize the Aggies we lost in the Bonfire collapse, not the 12th Man as a whole. I may be misremembering so feel free to correct if so.

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You are correct. For the 12 dead Aggies, not the 12th Man.

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You sure about that?

https://www.goodbullhunting.com/2014/2/25/5443548/12-empty-seats-memorial-kyle-field-renovation-12th-man-texas-am

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I stand 100% corrected! Maybe the original idea was for the 12 lost and he misinterpreted? I'm really not sure now. Could have sworn it had to do with bonfire collapse.

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It was 100% to honor the fallen at bonfire, then they realized that the collapse would be mentioned during every football broadcast and reframed it as honoring the 12th man. Which is dumb because the 12th Man is alive and present at every game and not needing to be remembered.

You are proving my point. You don't have to have a literal PE stamp beside your name to miss the forest for the trees. Which is what we did by removing a celebrated campus building to make way for parking or whatever other stupid idea they had.

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That's terribad.

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And incorrect

Great, I'm glad we could agree even though CanyonAg77 is an agricultural type Aggie - not an engineer, as you apparently claimed he was. And quit quibbling.

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Ag with kids said:

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That's terribad.

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And incorrect

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Well, who's the ******* then...

Ag with kids said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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That's terribad.

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And incorrect

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Well, who's the ******* then...

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Bottom line: A&M tore down the 1965 President's Home that had been used by every President since James Earl Rudder, except for maybe President Young. I seen to recall he did not move into it.

A poster seemed to think that the 1965 home incorporated elements from the house built for Sul Ross in the 1880s. I have seen no evidence of that. That house burned in 1963, and students and neighbors saved most of the furniture, some of which dated back to Ross. The Ross house was on the opposite side of campus, not far from where All Faiths Chapel now stands. So no structure from the Ross house was in the 1965 house, though there may well have been furniture from Ross.

I agree that it (1965 house) was a nice looking place, important to the recent history of A&M, and wish it had been preserved. Perhaps there were structural problems that could not be resolved, but it was torn down for new construction. I am not aware if there is a new President's residence.

Sharp was Chancellor during the tear down, so ultimate responsibility for the 1965 house is his. The poster was incorrect in stating that the 1965 house was connected to the 1880s house.

The poster is correct, that the Administration, for the last 50 years at least, and probably longer, has had no sense of history and no plan or grand vision for how the campus should look. Building are torn down, others on the Soviet Brutalist model are erected, random bell towers thrown into the line of vision, etc. etc. etc.

Sharp certainly didn't improve anything along those lines, but to be fair, lousy architecture is apparently an Aggie Tradition.

CanyonAg77 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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That's terribad.

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And incorrect

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Well, who's the ******* then...

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Bottom line: A&M tore down the 1965 President's Home that had been used by every President since James Earl Rudder, except for maybe President Young. I seen to recall he did not move into it.

A poster seemed to think that the 1965 home incorporated elements from the house built for Sul Ross in the 1880s. I have seen no evidence of that. That house burned in 1963, and students and neighbors saved most of the furniture, some of which dated back to Ross. The Ross house was on the opposite side of campus, not far from where All Faiths Chapel now stands. So no structure from the Ross house was in the 1965 house, though there may well have been furniture from Ross.

I agree that it (1965 house) was a nice looking place, important to the recent history of A&M, and wish it had been preserved. Perhaps there were structural problems that could not be resolved, but it was torn down for new construction. I am not aware if there is a new President's residence.

Sharp was Chancellor during the tear down, so ultimate responsibility for the 1965 house is his. The poster was incorrect in stating that the 1965 house was connected to the 1880s house.

The poster is correct, that the Administration, for the last 50 years at least, and probably longer, has had no sense of history and no plan or grand vision for how the campus should look. Building are torn down, others on the Soviet Brutalist model are erected, random bell towers thrown into the line of vision, etc. etc. etc.

Sharp certainly didn't improve anything along those lines, but to be fair, lousy architecture is apparently an Aggie Tradition.

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Oh come on CanyonAg. Take Reed Arena for example. A real architectural marvel.

CanyonAg77 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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That's terribad.

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And incorrect

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Well, who's the ******* then...

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Bottom line: A&M tore down the 1965 President's Home that had been used by every President since James Earl Rudder, except for maybe President Young. I seen to recall he did not move into it.

A poster seemed to think that the 1965 home incorporated elements from the house built for Sul Ross in the 1880s. I have seen no evidence of that. That house burned in 1963, and students and neighbors saved most of the furniture, some of which dated back to Ross. The Ross house was on the opposite side of campus, not far from where All Faiths Chapel now stands. So no structure from the Ross house was in the 1965 house, though there may well have been furniture from Ross.

I agree that it (1965 house) was a nice looking place, important to the recent history of A&M, and wish it had been preserved. Perhaps there were structural problems that could not be resolved, but it was torn down for new construction. I am not aware if there is a new President's residence.

Sharp was Chancellor during the tear down, so ultimate responsibility for the 1965 house is his. The poster was incorrect in stating that the 1965 house was connected to the 1880s house.

The poster is correct, that the Administration, for the last 50 years at least, and probably longer, has had no sense of history and no plan or grand vision for how the campus should look. Building are torn down, others on the Soviet Brutalist model are erected, random bell towers thrown into the line of vision, etc. etc. etc.

Sharp certainly didn't improve anything along those lines, but to be fair, lousy architecture is apparently an Aggie Tradition.

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Gotcha...

On that last line, I think we can all agree...

President Young, Jimbo, DEI, his reign of terror led to "Not another dime campaign".

So here's the most important question regarding the demolition of the 1965 President's home:

Did they preserve Ranger's grave?

BusterAg said:

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Good Sharp. Defense contractors moving to Bryan:

https://www.bryantx.gov/strategic-armory-corps-selects-bryan-for-their-new-world-headquarters/

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I'm not sure that Sharp had anything to do with this...