Burdizzo said:

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What monetary or property damages did the families suffer by Alex Jones being an obnoxious, insufferable, asshat?

Does this mean I can sue Rachel Maddow for the same thing?

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What monetary or property damages does someone suffer if they lose a kid that is too young to work? Yet they can still sue for it. Why? For the pain and suffering.

He stacked lies about them on top of the loss they were already forced to endure. And why'd he do it? To make money.

93MarineHorn said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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Still don't get how his crazy ramblings were illegal , he hurt peoples feelings ? Lol

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He stepped over the line and slandered people who had their children murdered. It was absolutely despicable.

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So.... Those families deserve a billion dollars from this guy?

He wrongly claimed an event was fake and that somehow caused a billion in pain and suffering?

Absurd

A billion dollars for saying words. Big pharma is laughing their asses off.

Sandy hook families =grifters

The only obvious takeaway is the anti-2A lawyers made a good bet and created a good payday for themselves.

Esteban du Plantier said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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Still don't get how his crazy ramblings were illegal , he hurt peoples feelings ? Lol

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He stepped over the line and slandered people who had their children murdered. It was absolutely despicable.

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So.... Those families deserve a billion dollars from this guy?

He wrongly claimed an event was fake and that somehow caused a billion in pain and suffering?

Absurd

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Surely they sued the kid that pulled the trigger for at least $100 billion, right?

Hillary called me deplorable.... I want my money!!

Esteban du Plantier said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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Still don't get how his crazy ramblings were illegal , he hurt peoples feelings ? Lol

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He stepped over the line and slandered people who had their children murdered. It was absolutely despicable.

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So.... Those families deserve a billion dollars from this guy?

He wrongly claimed an event was fake and that somehow caused a billion in pain and suffering?

Absurd

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Dont forget that this guy has followers that also tormented the families as a result of his lies.

93MarineHorn said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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Still don't get how his crazy ramblings were illegal , he hurt peoples feelings ? Lol

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He stepped over the line and slandered people who had their children murdered. It was absolutely despicable.

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I'm no fan of Alex Jones but you have no clue what slander is

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Pookers said:

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Cheerleading lawfare.

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Terrible take. This isn't a left vs right issue. This is a right vs wrong issue. Dare I say, a good vs evil issue. And Alex Jones is NOT the good guy, here.

Just because you might agree with a guy on some stuff doesn't make that person right everywhere else or even good. Some people just do crappy things to others and thankfully they sometimes have to account for it.

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Now do everyone else in media. Did the people who pushed the Russian collusion ever have to account? Or the other countless lies that were told and have never been retracted. What about all the COVID lies?

It is a right vs left issue. They made it that way because they only ones held accountable are the ones the left don't like.

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Lawfare is quickly becoming MAGA's version of crying Racism.

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Whether or not this qualifies as lawfare, only an idiot would believe the left isn't bludgeoning the right with lawfare. No need to bait posters.

Jeeper79 said:

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Burdizzo said:

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What monetary or property damages did the families suffer by Alex Jones being an obnoxious, insufferable, asshat?

Does this mean I can sue Rachel Maddow for the same thing?

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What monetary or property damages does someone suffer if they lose a kid that is too young to work? Yet they can still sue for it. Why? For the pain and suffering.

He stacked lies about them on top of the loss they were already forced to endure. And why'd he do it? To make money.

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Alex Jones had absolutely no part in the deaths.

Repeat after me.

Alex Jones had absolutely no part in the deaths.


He was just a bloviating idiot afterward. The kids were already dead.

How were they monetarily damaged by Alex Jones. Pain and suffering doesn't count.

93MarineHorn said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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Still don't get how his crazy ramblings were illegal , he hurt peoples feelings ? Lol

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He stepped over the line and slandered people who had their children murdered. It was absolutely despicable.

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The wonderful part about America, is that what you said can be true, AND not illegal….

Jeeper79 said:

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Burdizzo said:

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What monetary or property damages did the families suffer by Alex Jones being an obnoxious, insufferable, asshat?

Does this mean I can sue Rachel Maddow for the same thing?

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What monetary or property damages does someone suffer if they lose a kid that is too young to work? Yet they can still sue for it. Why? For the pain and suffering.

He stacked lies about them on top of the loss they were already forced to endure. And why'd he do it? To make money.

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Rachel makes fistful of dollars by lying. Try again.

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Jeeper79 said:

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Pookers said:

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Cheerleading lawfare.

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Terrible take. This isn't a left vs right issue. This is a right vs wrong issue. Dare I say, a good vs evil issue. And Alex Jones is NOT the good guy, here.

Just because you might agree with a guy on some stuff doesn't make that person right everywhere else or even good. Some people just do crappy things to others and thankfully they sometimes have to account for it.

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Now do everyone else in media. Did the people who pushed the Russian collusion ever have to account? Or the other countless lies that were told and have never been retracted. What about all the COVID lies?

It is a right vs left issue. They made it that way because they only ones held accountable are the ones the left don't like.

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The media gets protection under NYT v. Sullivan. This is why the reports always say things like "according to sources / unnamed sources / according to reports, etc." and include "alleged/allegedly" about a person's action. By doing this, they are protected from any kind of slander lawsuit. The exception is if they are told before the story runs that it is false and are shown proof it is false. If they run it anyway, then they can and have been sued.

As for Alex Jones, he directly accused them of being crisis actors, more than once, which would not be covered by NYT v. Sullivan.

Jeeper79 said:

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Esteban du Plantier said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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Still don't get how his crazy ramblings were illegal , he hurt peoples feelings ? Lol

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He stepped over the line and slandered people who had their children murdered. It was absolutely despicable.

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So.... Those families deserve a billion dollars from this guy?

He wrongly claimed an event was fake and that somehow caused a billion in pain and suffering?

Absurd

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Dont forget that this guy has followers that also tormented the families as a result of his lies.

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Go after the followers then. Oh wait, they don't have nearly as much money. And this is why the families are called grifters.

Burdizzo said:

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What monetary or property damages did the families suffer by Alex Jones being an obnoxious, insufferable, asshat?

Does this mean I can sue Rachel Maddow for the same thing?

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Did she make a **** ton of money lying about your murdered children and causing unhinged morons to harass you about it? If so then go for it.

From a pure bankruptcy tactics standpoint, this seems like a bad move. The value in Alex Jones's media company is Alex Jones. By converting and liquidating, you can monetize whatever hard assets are around but you can't forcibly monetize Alex jones.

He'll probably move somewhere it's hard to extract money from people that owe you and carry on with a new enterprise. But now outside of the guideposts of a bankruptcy court and/or a chapter 11 plan.

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93MarineHorn said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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Still don't get how his crazy ramblings were illegal , he hurt peoples feelings ? Lol

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He stepped over the line and slandered people who had their children murdered. It was absolutely despicable.

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The wonderful part about America, is that what you said can be true, AND not illegal….

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No one is saying he should be arrested. Doesn't mean there aren't consequences for what you say. He knew exactly what he was doing and did it anyways.

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Cheerleading lawfare.

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Exactly, why should any families get his personal money? Did he shoot their kids?

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No but he called them all liars and their kids actors and accused them of perpetuating a hoax. And then his lunatic followers started harassing them to the point where some families had to move MULTIPLE TIMES.

So in addition to the horrific trauma they faced, they weren't even able to properly process their grief and faced even more trauma from Alex jones and his listeners.

There are absolutely very real damages here. Justice was served. Alex is no victim and he can rot in hell.

I can see why people would hate Alex Jones for the things he said. I get that part, easily.

Claiming on a podcast years later after the massacre that one of the victim's dad looked weird and creepy and looked like a "crisis actor" sounds really bad. However, justifying a BILLION DOLLAR judgement? That's ludicrous. Demand an apology from the crazy podcaster and move on weather he issues one or not. You know if the person saying crazy things was (d)ifferent, attacking someone acceptable to attack like catholics or prolifers, or someone with a red cap on their head, there would be no case, no judgement, and certainly not a BILLION DOLLARS.

People are claiming dead Palestinians you see on tiktok and X all the time are crisis actors. Every day. Is everyone suggesting that getting fined a BILLION DOLLARS?

Foreverconservative said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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Still don't get how his crazy ramblings were illegal , he hurt peoples feelings ? Lol

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He stepped over the line and slandered people who had their children murdered. It was absolutely despicable.

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I'm no fan of Alex Jones but you have no clue what slander is

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1. : the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation. 2. : a false and defamatory oral statement about a person.

This is the definition and seems to fit this scenario. What did I get wrong?

Burdizzo said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Burdizzo said:

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What monetary or property damages did the families suffer by Alex Jones being an obnoxious, insufferable, asshat?

Does this mean I can sue Rachel Maddow for the same thing?

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What monetary or property damages does someone suffer if they lose a kid that is too young to work? Yet they can still sue for it. Why? For the pain and suffering.

He stacked lies about them on top of the loss they were already forced to endure. And why'd he do it? To make money.

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Alex Jones had absolutely no part in the deaths.

Repeat after me.

Alex Jones had absolutely no part in the deaths.


He was just a bloviating idiot afterward. The kids were already dead.

How were they monetarily damaged by Alex Jones. Pain and suffering doesn't count.

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See my post above.

The parents never accused Alex of killing their kids, so these points are irrelevant

bobbranco said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Burdizzo said:

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What monetary or property damages did the families suffer by Alex Jones being an obnoxious, insufferable, asshat?

Does this mean I can sue Rachel Maddow for the same thing?

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What monetary or property damages does someone suffer if they lose a kid that is too young to work? Yet they can still sue for it. Why? For the pain and suffering.

He stacked lies about them on top of the loss they were already forced to endure. And why'd he do it? To make money.

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Rachel makes fistful of dollars by lying. Try again.

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Rachel Maddow also encourages legions of asshats to act stupidly. Can I sue her for pain and suffering and encouraging others to act stupidly?

justnobody79 said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Esteban du Plantier said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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Still don't get how his crazy ramblings were illegal , he hurt peoples feelings ? Lol

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He stepped over the line and slandered people who had their children murdered. It was absolutely despicable.

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So.... Those families deserve a billion dollars from this guy?

He wrongly claimed an event was fake and that somehow caused a billion in pain and suffering?

Absurd

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Dont forget that this guy has followers that also tormented the families as a result of his lies.

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Go after the followers then. Oh wait, they don't have nearly as much money. And this is why the families are called grifters.

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Alex Jones is the proximate cause. Perfectly reasonable to go after him.

Is Nicholas Sandman a grifter, too?

Burdizzo said:

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bobbranco said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Burdizzo said:

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What monetary or property damages did the families suffer by Alex Jones being an obnoxious, insufferable, asshat?

Does this mean I can sue Rachel Maddow for the same thing?

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What monetary or property damages does someone suffer if they lose a kid that is too young to work? Yet they can still sue for it. Why? For the pain and suffering.

He stacked lies about them on top of the loss they were already forced to endure. And why'd he do it? To make money.

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Rachel makes fistful of dollars by lying. Try again.

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Rachel Maddow also encourages legions of asshats to act stupidly. Can I sue her for pain and suffering and encouraging others to act stupidly?

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Can you show targeted action that resulted in verifiable pain and suffering? Go for it.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Burdizzo said:

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What monetary or property damages did the families suffer by Alex Jones being an obnoxious, insufferable, asshat?

Does this mean I can sue Rachel Maddow for the same thing?

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Did she make a **** ton of money lying about your murdered children and causing unhinged morons to harass you about it? If so then go for it.

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Show me on paper where Alex Jones made $1B, if that is how we are going to assess the damage.

Is AJ an idiot most of the time? Yes.

Is this judgment amount ridiculous? Yes.

Elder_LarryII said:

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TriAg2010 said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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Still don't get how his crazy ramblings were illegal , he hurt peoples feelings ? Lol

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He stepped over the line and slandered people who had their children murdered. It was absolutely despicable.

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Over whose line exactly ? Who makes that decision

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A jury.

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A jury also found oj not guilty

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This is dumb. Ok so just because one jury in the 90s got a verdict wrong that's a reason to think this verdict was also wrong? What weird logic.

What specifically did they get wrong in this case? Or are you just making the general point "juries bad" because of the OJ case?

93MarineHorn said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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Still don't get how his crazy ramblings were illegal , he hurt peoples feelings ? Lol

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He stepped over the line and slandered people who had their children murdered. It was absolutely despicable.

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But illegal? Should we just lock people up for despicable rude behavior? If so round up every liberal protestor right?

barbacoa taco said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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TriAg2010 said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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Still don't get how his crazy ramblings were illegal , he hurt peoples feelings ? Lol

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He stepped over the line and slandered people who had their children murdered. It was absolutely despicable.

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Over whose line exactly ? Who makes that decision

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A jury.

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A jury also found oj not guilty

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This is dumb. Ok so just because one jury in the 90s got a verdict wrong that's a reason to think this verdict was also wrong? What weird logic.

What specifically did they get wrong in this case? Or are you just making the general point "juries bad" because of the OJ case?

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Juries get verdicts wrong ALL. THE. TIME.

HTH

El Gallo Blanco said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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Still don't get how his crazy ramblings were illegal , he hurt peoples feelings ? Lol

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He stepped over the line and slandered people who had their children murdered. It was absolutely despicable.

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But illegal? Should we just lock people up for despicable rude behavior? If so round up every liberal protestor right?

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It's a civil case. For ffs!!!

Jeeper79 said:

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Burdizzo said:

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bobbranco said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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Burdizzo said:

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What monetary or property damages did the families suffer by Alex Jones being an obnoxious, insufferable, asshat?

Does this mean I can sue Rachel Maddow for the same thing?

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What monetary or property damages does someone suffer if they lose a kid that is too young to work? Yet they can still sue for it. Why? For the pain and suffering.

He stacked lies about them on top of the loss they were already forced to endure. And why'd he do it? To make money.

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Rachel makes fistful of dollars by lying. Try again.

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Rachel Maddow also encourages legions of asshats to act stupidly. Can I sue her for pain and suffering and encouraging others to act stupidly?

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Can you show targeted action that resulted in verifiable pain and suffering? Go for it.

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Rachel Maddow specifically targeted a public official by lying, and this public official was popular with many who supported him. She also conspired to deny people the privilege of voting for him to represent them.

You see how this crap can be twisted, right?


No, you don't. You're a hack.

Artorias said:

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barbacoa taco said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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TriAg2010 said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Elder_LarryII said:

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Still don't get how his crazy ramblings were illegal , he hurt peoples feelings ? Lol

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He stepped over the line and slandered people who had their children murdered. It was absolutely despicable.

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Over whose line exactly ? Who makes that decision

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A jury.

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A jury also found oj not guilty

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This is dumb. Ok so just because one jury in the 90s got a verdict wrong that's a reason to think this verdict was also wrong? What weird logic.

What specifically did they get wrong in this case? Or are you just making the general point "juries bad" because of the OJ case?

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Juries get verdicts wrong ALL. THE. TIME.

HTH

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There was no verdict to decide. That was taken care of when the default judgment was entered against Alex Jones. All they jury was tasked with was how much compensation the families should receive.