I've been switching around channels since this verdict came out, and even before it came out, and I have yet to hear from a Democrat or Biden supporter expressing concern that this case was a miscarriage of justice from the outset and that it sets a dangerous precedent. Truth be known, it would make me feel much better about the future of this country to know that there are persons out there who can hold both of those thoughts in their minds at the same time (support for Democrats and disgust at how this show trial was conducted). Perhaps there have been such voices in the media, I just haven't heard any (perhaps Alan Dershowitz is one, I'm not sure he still supports the Democrat party and Biden). If this is how "Justice" is carried out in this country, we have really dark days ahead of us.

I would love to know that not every Democrat out there thinks this was an example of a hardworking DA with no axe to grind bringing a case in front of an apolitical judge who applied the rule of law without prejudice and gave equal weight to prosecution and defense. Honestly, if the shoe were on the other foot, I would be nothing short of disgusted with Republicans for doing what was done here. And lest ye think I am someone who thinks Trump walks on water and is as pure as the driven snow, check my posting history. I detest the man as a human being and I think he is very deeply flawed. I just think he is WAY better than the alternative, and today did nothing but solidify that feeling.

Nein

Keep your arms crossed. We already know a good portion of this nation raises their right arm in tribute Der PedoFuhrer.

Hopefully we can stop them.

The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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LOL.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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What were the last minute rules the judge laid out? And is that normal? Also totally normal for a judge to be so partisan right?

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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And every one of them are radical democrats.

Since Obama, the Democrats have taken an adversarial outlook toward the Republicans, seeing them as the enemy and in the way of their new construct for this country.

Seeing what happened today is just the next step in whch they will be using the courts to silence and intimidate anyone that they deem dangerous.

Biden is going to win the next election, the same way he won the last one for the courts have now been filled with liberal judges that will do the bidding of the Democrats.

This country is headed toward the abyss and once over it, the "great experiment" is over.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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And "kangaroo courts" work the same way for it is the judge which allows what "evidence" is to presented to the "jury".

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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Jurors from a deep blue state and a city where Biden received 76% of the vote.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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Yep, the court system decided. Just like cases in Russia, China, Ukraine, and every 3rd world ****hole country. Totally fair and legal.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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So engrained w pro establishment propaganda regurgitation reflex you can't even give your own opinion when the he most basic of questions is asked

Only one I've seen on here is Malibu that said he thought it was a dangerous precedent.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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Jurors from a deep blue state and a city where Biden received 76% of the vote.

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In jury selection the first question asked was if any of the potential jurors had a positive opinion of Trump, if they did they were dismissed.

There have been a number of commentators from the left (e.g., CNN's Fareed Zakaria) and the Never Trump center-right (e.g., Andrew Sullivan) who have acknowledged that there is no way that anyone not named Donald Trump would have been prosecuted on these charges.

Personally, I'm not exactly what you're looking for, although I have voted for the Democrat in six straight Presidential elections. I will vote for Trump in November, not in small part due to my disgust at the abuse of the court system by his opponents.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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And every one of them are radical democrats.

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Well, if that's the case, then President Trump's lawyers should be fired and disbarred for incompetence. During voir dire, each side could strike jurors, both sides got unlimited for-cause objections, and each side got 10 peremptory challenges.

Idiots always love when power is abused against someone they hate...

and are shocked when the same abusive tactics are used against them.

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Only one I've seen on here is Malibu that said he thought it was a dangerous precedent.

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Agreed. He had a relatively reasonable stance but didn't say if he's voting for Biden again or not. If so then his post was a lie.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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And every one of them are radical democrats.

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Well, if that's the case, then President Trump's lawyers should be fired and disbarred for incompetence. During voir dire, each side could strike jurors, both sides got unlimited for-cause objections, and each side got 10 peremptory challenges.

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And Jurors do not lie?

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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Might be missing some important context here, don't you think? Your version of events is wildly misleading at best.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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And every one of them are radical democrats.

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Well, if that's the case, then President Trump's lawyers should be fired and disbarred for incompetence. During voir dire, each side could strike jurors, both sides got unlimited for-cause objections, and each side got 10 peremptory challenges.

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And Jurors do not lie?

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Oh, of course they do! My point remains that President Trumps lawyers are incompetent if, along with the rules I previously mentioned, they couldn't suss out the liars, resulting in a jury wholly comprised of 12 radical Democrats.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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Good point. No one has ever been wrongfully convicted when 12 jurors found them guilty. It's totally foolproof!

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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Jurors from a deep blue state and a city where Biden received 76% of the vote.

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That area voted Trump at around 6 percent

To answer the OP (unlike everyone else here) I usually vote Dem and I have zero doubt that the facts of the case are 100% accurate. He paid hush money to his pornstar date, and the transaction was falsified on his corporate records. Now whether those facts rise to the level of a felony, I'm not a lawyer so I can't say.

And whether or not this is a dangerous precedent, it doesn't matter. If you break the law, you should face the consequences. In a crime, the problem originates with the criminal not the victims or prosecutor.

If Biden has broken the law, let a prosecutor go after him, I dont have a problem with that. Of course as with Trump that all has to wait until he's out of office,

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There have been a number of commentators from the left (e.g., CNN's Fareed Zakaria) and the Never Trump center-right (e.g., Andrew Sullivan) who have acknowledged that there is no way that anyone not named Donald Trump would have been prosecuted on these charges.

Personally, I'm not exactly what you're looking for, although I have voted for the Democrat in six straight Presidential elections. I will vote for Trump in November, not in small part due to my disgust at the abuse of the court system by his opponents.

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You're EXACTLY what I am looking for. Thank you. I hope there are LOTS of you out there (people who can think critically and understand how countries fall apart). Whether or not you change your vote, at least you can use critical thinking.

With respect to Fareed Zakaria and Andrew Sullivan, have they gone so far as to say that the entire charade was a miscarriage of justice and an affront to the rule of law, or just that Trump is being prosecuted because he's Trump? Because those are different things.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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And every one of them are radical democrats.

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Then Trump has awful lawyers. Should make the appeals process easy.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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12 jurors also said O.J. was innocent.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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Jurors from a deep blue state and a city where Biden received 76% of the vote.

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That area voted Trump at around 6 percent

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In 2020, the area voted 12.3 percent.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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Run home and turn your Trump supporting neighbors to daddy government.

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There have been a number of commentators from the left (e.g., CNN's Fareed Zakaria) and the Never Trump center-right (e.g., Andrew Sullivan) who have acknowledged that there is no way that anyone not named Donald Trump would have been prosecuted on these charges.

Personally, I'm not exactly what you're looking for, although I have voted for the Democrat in six straight Presidential elections. I will vote for Trump in November, not in small part due to my disgust at the abuse of the court system by his opponents.

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Respect. As an added bonus you'll see a better economy and us not sending all of our tax dollars to other countries including our enemies.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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And every one of them are radical democrats.

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Then Trump has awful lawyers. Should make the appeals process easy.

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Trump had a judge who would not permit the defense the latitude he repeatedly afforded the prosecution.

You have a right to a full and free defense, one affording you the complete right to respond to accusers and refute allegations with witnesses of your own.

What he got instead was the defense a judge compromised by his support for Biden allowed him to have. He was not given a fair trial.

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To answer the OP (unlike everyone else here) I usually vote Dem and I have zero doubt that the facts of the case are 100% accurate. He paid hush money to his pornstar date, and the transaction was falsified on his corporate records. Now whether those facts rise to the level of a felony, I'm not a lawyer so I can't say.

And whether or not this is a dangerous precedent, it doesn't matter. If you break the law, you should face the consequences. In a crime, the problem originates with the criminal not the victims or prosecutor.

If Biden has broken the law, let a prosecutor go after him, I dont have a problem with that. Of course as with Trump that all has to wait until he's out of office,

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Nobody will go after Biden though and he is clearly a criminal, even more so than the average scum bag Democrat. If this were Obama there is a negative eleventy trillion percent chance that this prosecution would have occurred given the same set of facts. That is a big problem whether you think this case was justified or not. One could easily find a ticky tacky crime to convict any politician of. Unfortunately most occur in urban areas dominated by left wing radicals with zero ethical boundaries.

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The DA brought charges and the judge presided over the case, but ultimately it was 12 jurors who heard the case and found him guilty on all 34 counts.

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PERSON - WOMAN - MAN - CAMERA - TV

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Are those your pronouns on your signature?

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There have been a number of commentators from the left (e.g., CNN's Fareed Zakaria) and the Never Trump center-right (e.g., Andrew Sullivan) who have acknowledged that there is no way that anyone not named Donald Trump would have been prosecuted on these charges.

Personally, I'm not exactly what you're looking for, although I have voted for the Democrat in six straight Presidential elections. I will vote for Trump in November, not in small part due to my disgust at the abuse of the court system by his opponents.

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Wow.

In New York City? Good luck.

What if theyre trotting in one radical after another? At some point you cant eliminate all of them. This trial was over from start because it was in a deep blue state.