https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/californias-secret-gas-tax-hike-coming-in-2025

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A longstanding emissions reduction program may lead to a 50-cent increase in gasoline prices within two years in California, according to a little-known state air quality regulator report.

In September, the California Air Resources Board (CARB), the state's primary environmental regulator, reported gas prices will rise next year by about 50 cents a gallon and every year thereafter to aid in clean air efforts. The price increase does not include the existing gas tax in the state.

Republican state Sen. Janet Nguyen, one of the legislature's most critical tax hawks, told Fox News Digital the "secret" tax increase "would penalize the majority of Californians."

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Another fine example of YGWYVF (you get what you vote for).

Why anybody would want to live in that left wing craphole and put up with the constant barrage of nonsense like this is beyond me.

But the dummys will comply and then be the first ones complaining about high gas prices and massive profits for the O&G industry. They certainly work hard to earn the label of useful idiots.

Both the gas tax and EV tax should be higher in every state now. Infrastructure is more and more expensive compared to the last time it was increased but it's political poison to do so.

They'll increase it 50 cents every year... clearly they're deliberately trying to make gasoline prohibitively expensive and not use extra tax revenue for any valid purpose

Heard people say that once the middle class has pretty much left CA it will only be rich people who can afford to live there and the peasant class that takes care of them.

Does no one else wonder how the peasant class is going to get by?

If I were a rich Californian I would be concerned that one day the peasants are going to eat them.

The rich will easily absorb it. The poor take the bus. So once again, this hurts the middle class and will further the wealth gap.

Teslag said:

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Both the gas tax and EV tax should be higher in every state now. Infrastructure is more and more expensive compared to the last time it was increased but it's political poison to do so.

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If the gas tax and EV tax actually went to infrastructure, that would be one thing, but its just another endless pot of money spent by politicians with no budget.

Urban Ag said:

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Heard people say that once the middle class has pretty much left CA it will only be rich people who can afford to live there and the peasant class that takes care of them.

Does no one else wonder how the peasant class is going to get by?

If I were a rich Californian I would be concerned that one day the peasants are going to eat them.

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For sure spit in and touch their food with dirty hands.

I say Big Sur is the most expensive gas, perhaps in the nation minus Hawaii.

Without looking it up first, I'm guessing $9.50/gal.

The Marxist democrats don't want a middle class, elites and poor to serve them.

Bondag said:

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Teslag said:

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Both the gas tax and EV tax should be higher in every state now. Infrastructure is more and more expensive compared to the last time it was increased but it's political poison to do so.

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If the gas tax and EV tax actually went to infrastructure, that would be one thing, but its just another endless pot of money spent by politicians with no budget.

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Also, there are a crap ton more vehicles on the road now than back then

I'm curious as to what this "EV tax" is, because when you type that into the google machine, every single hit talks about the "EV tax credit", not an actual useage tax. Is it something that is billed into the charges at a charging station?

Teslag said:

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Both the gas tax and EV tax should be higher in every state now. Infrastructure is more and more expensive compared to the last time it was increased but it's political poison to do so.

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i have yet to see any benefit of the 100s of billions in stimulus we have provided for infrastructure. so why would anyone want to give more to an entity that steals 49 out of every 50 cents.

Bondag said:

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Teslag said:

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Both the gas tax and EV tax should be higher in every state now. Infrastructure is more and more expensive compared to the last time it was increased but it's political poison to do so.

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If the gas tax and EV tax actually went to infrastructure, that would be one thing, but its just another endless pot of money spent by politicians with no budget.

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Gas Taxes and What You Need to Know
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• Unfortunately, the revenue raised from gas taxes has failed to keep up with rising infrastructure costs and inflation. The development of electric vehiclesand increased fuel efficiency of all autos have reduced gas demand relative to vehicle miles traveled, further widening the gap between the gas tax funds raised and road maintenance costs
• As of July 2023, California had the highest gas tax in the nation at 68.1 cents per gallon. Following closely behind is Illinois, with a rate of 66.5 cents per gallon
• The bulk of revenue from gas taxes pays for infrastructure projects such as building, repairing, and modernizing roads and public transit. (my 2 cents added:The bulk is, but where did the not the bulk get spent on?)
• Given the increasing shortfalls, federal and state officials will need to consider how to keep paying for paving the country's roadways and fixing its potholes. At the federal level alone, the cumulative funding shortfall in the Highway Trust Fund is expected to reach $241 billion by 2033.

schmellba99 said:

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Bondag said:

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Teslag said:

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Both the gas tax and EV tax should be higher in every state now. Infrastructure is more and more expensive compared to the last time it was increased but it's political poison to do so.

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If the gas tax and EV tax actually went to infrastructure, that would be one thing, but its just another endless pot of money spent by politicians with no budget.

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Also, there are a crap ton more vehicles on the road now than back then

I'm curious as to what this "EV tax" is, because when you type that into the google machine, every single hit talks about the "EV tax credit", not an actual useage tax. Is it something that is billed into the charges at a charging station?

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In Texas I think we charge EVs an extra $200/year. Try googling "EV registration fee."

richardag said:

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Bondag said:

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Teslag said:

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Both the gas tax and EV tax should be higher in every state now. Infrastructure is more and more expensive compared to the last time it was increased but it's political poison to do so.

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If the gas tax and EV tax actually went to infrastructure, that would be one thing, but its just another endless pot of money spent by politicians with no budget.

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Gas Taxes and What You Need to Know
quote from the article

• Unfortunately, the revenue raised from gas taxes has failed to keep up with rising infrastructure costs and inflation. The development of electric vehiclesand increased fuel efficiency of all autos have reduced gas demand relative to vehicle miles traveled, further widening the gap between the gas tax funds raised and road maintenance costs
• As of July 2023, California had the highest gas tax in the nation at 68.1 cents per gallon. Following closely behind is Illinois, with a rate of 66.5 cents per gallon
• The bulk of revenue from gas taxes pays for infrastructure projects such as building, repairing, and modernizing roads and public transit. (my 2 cents added:The bulk is, but where did the not the bulk get spent on?)
• Given the increasing shortfalls, federal and state officials will need to consider how to keep paying for paving the country's roadways and fixing its potholes. At the federal level alone, the cumulative funding shortfall in the Highway Trust Fund is expected to reach $241 billion by 2033.

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• Given the increasing shortfalls, federal and state officials will need to consider how to keep paying for paving the country's roadways and fixing its potholes. At the federal level alone, the cumulative funding shortfall in the Highway Trust Fund is expected to reach $241 billion by 2033.

They need to read your signature

Keep going, Newsome, your surfs haven't woken up yet.

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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Teslag said:

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Both the gas tax and EV tax should be higher in every state now. Infrastructure is more and more expensive compared to the last time it was increased but it's political poison to do so.

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i have yet to see any benefit of the 100s of billions in stimulus we have provided for infrastructure. so why would anyone want to give more to an entity that steals 49 out of every 50 cents.

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Agreed.
We do not have a taxing problem we have a spending problem,
We do not have an inflation problem we have a devaluation of the dollar problem.

techno-ag said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Bondag said:

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Teslag said:

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Both the gas tax and EV tax should be higher in every state now. Infrastructure is more and more expensive compared to the last time it was increased but it's political poison to do so.

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If the gas tax and EV tax actually went to infrastructure, that would be one thing, but its just another endless pot of money spent by politicians with no budget.

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Also, there are a crap ton more vehicles on the road now than back then

I'm curious as to what this "EV tax" is, because when you type that into the google machine, every single hit talks about the "EV tax credit", not an actual useage tax. Is it something that is billed into the charges at a charging station?

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In Texas I think we charge EVs an extra $200/year. Try googling "EV registration fee."

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$200 a year isn't nearly enough to offset the road usage that would be paid for through gas taxes.

Teslag said:

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Both the gas tax and EV tax should be higher in every state now. Infrastructure is more and more expensive compared to the last time it was increased but it's political poison to do so.

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At least you are finally being honest about wanting dear big gov to expand and be more powerful.

No, we do not need more big gov taxes until big gov can show they can be fiscally responsible. You can live amongst the Californians if you want more taxes.

Teslag said:

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Both the gas tax and EV tax should be higher in every state now. Infrastructure is more and more expensive compared to the last time it was increased but it's political poison to do so.

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Nope. If the govt cared about infrastructure, they'd cut other programs to make it happen. But at this point it's all just an endless funnel of money at the expense of the working American.

Tea Party said:

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Teslag said:

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Both the gas tax and EV tax should be higher in every state now. Infrastructure is more and more expensive compared to the last time it was increased but it's political poison to do so.

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At least you are finally being honest about wanting dear big gov to expand and be more powerful.

No, we do not need more big gov taxes until big gov can show they can be fiscally responsible. You can live amongst the Californians if you want more taxes.

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So people using the roads shouldn't be paying for the roads?

IndividualFreedom said:

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I say Big Sur is the most expensive gas, perhaps in the nation minus Hawaii.

Without looking it up first, I'm guessing $9.50/gal.

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I've seen it over $8/gal next to Mono Lake in Lee Vining, CA on US395 between Mammoth Ski Resort and Carson City, NV.

Looks like it's only about $7 right now.
https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/lee-vining

Muy said:

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Keep going, Newsome, your surfs haven't woken up yet.

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It's serf with an "e" but I'll let you slide in this auto-correct era.

I'm hoping for $12 gas to see if it wakes any of them up.

Gas tax, car registration tax, toll tax, sales tax, property tax all help pay for infrastructure. How much money do those idiots need.

Do uou feel that the gas tax has kept up with Biden's out of control inflation?

HollywoodBQ said:

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Muy said:

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Keep going, Newsome, your surfs haven't woken up yet.

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It's serf with an "e" but I'll let you slide in this auto-correct era.

I'm hoping for $12 gas to see if it wakes any of them up.

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Somehow it will be blamed on the republicans and those "greedy oil companies". Those fruits in California are utterly brainwashed.

I was paying $1.99 a gallon for gas in 2020. Yesterday it was $3.89. I would say yes it has.

The gas tax has remained static. It's not a percentage of the gas price.

What a privilege it is for Californians to be able to support the non-working and non-citizens and less fortunate.

Don't forget that in California, you also pay "Cap at the Rack" and LCFS taxes. This year that's an incremental 37-40 cpg in addition to any state taxes. These also will continue to go up.

Ag87H2O said:

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Why anybody would want to live in that left wing craphole and put up with the constant barrage of nonsense like this is beyond me.

But the dummys will comply and then be the first ones complaining about high gas prices and massive profits for the O&G industry. They certainly work hard to earn the label of useful idiots.

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Dont you love the timing. Right before an election. They are either extremely stupid or very arrogant. Ill go with both. People are already pissed. They will make half a million new young conservatives with this and other idiocy like it.

Keep going Cali. Newsome is really a moron.

schmellba99 said:

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techno-ag said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Bondag said:

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Teslag said:

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Both the gas tax and EV tax should be higher in every state now. Infrastructure is more and more expensive compared to the last time it was increased but it's political poison to do so.

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If the gas tax and EV tax actually went to infrastructure, that would be one thing, but its just another endless pot of money spent by politicians with no budget.

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Also, there are a crap ton more vehicles on the road now than back then

I'm curious as to what this "EV tax" is, because when you type that into the google machine, every single hit talks about the "EV tax credit", not an actual useage tax. Is it something that is billed into the charges at a charging station?

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In Texas I think we charge EVs an extra $200/year. Try googling "EV registration fee."

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$200 a year isn't nearly enough to offset the road usage that would be paid for through gas taxes.

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In Texas the gas tax is 20 cents/gallon. I put about 20 gallons/ week in my pickup. I drive 50 weeks out of the year, and thus contribute $200 to the state's highway fund. This $200/year fee on Teslas evens the playing field quite nicely, at least at the state level.

Hold on now, I don't see where all this kind of taxation is necessary. I was promised by PeePaw that we were gonna be built back better by now.

Teslag said:

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Tea Party said:

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Teslag said:

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Both the gas tax and EV tax should be higher in every state now. Infrastructure is more and more expensive compared to the last time it was increased but it's political poison to do so.

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At least you are finally being honest about wanting dear big gov to expand and be more powerful.

No, we do not need more big gov taxes until big gov can show they can be fiscally responsible. You can live amongst the Californians if you want more taxes.

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So people using the roads shouldn't be paying for the roads?

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The people using the roads should pay for the roads.

They should not be funding both sides of a war overseas or for an illegal immigrant to get a sex change. The money should stay in the community and pay for someone to actually fix the road.

I live in Houston. For 8 years my trash and recycling was a crap shoot for when it would be picked up. If they came on the right day it could be 8:00 PM when the truck was driving around the neighborhood but was usually 3-4 days later. We have a new mayor and all of a sudden the trash is picked up on the correct day every time because the person that has the contract knows they will get fired if they don't perform and they have to spend the money fixing trucks and not on hookers and blow.