In hindsight, maybe the book wasn't the best idea

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In reply to Aggrad08 • 7:00p, 5/23/24
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Aggrad08 said:
Unless you are illiterate which is a solid maybe, there is plenty of Trump misstating objective truth. You can read plenty of examples in that same post.

your argument that a lie about campaign promises doesn't count is absurd. Which lies exactly count?

There are more examples of Trump misstating objective truth than literally any other politician.

Go ahead, list every Biden lie, there are plenty, and you'll have more than three from Trump for each.


Accusing a fellow A&M grad of being illiterate is a weak troll job. And I'll take you up on your challenge. Need every comment in context.
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In reply to No Spin Ag • 7:08p, 5/23/24
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She's a narcissist that is addicted to the camera.
She's got the crazy eyes, but is fun to look at her.
"Gimme a diablo sandwhich and a dr. pepper...to go"
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In reply to Buford T. Justice • 7:10p, 5/23/24
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She's going full on Evel Kneivel now because she knows that the limelight will go away, so she's going all out to either make it, or crash and burn.
"Gimme a diablo sandwhich and a dr. pepper...to go"
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In reply to Aggrad08 • 7:12p, 5/23/24
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Aggrad08 said:
Unless you are illiterate which is a solid maybe, there is plenty of Trump misstating objective truth. You can read plenty of examples in that same post.

your argument that a lie about campaign promises doesn't count is absurd. Which lies exactly count?

There are more examples of Trump misstating objective truth than literally any other politician.

Go ahead, list every Biden lie, there are plenty, and you'll have more than three from Trump for each.
Words have meaning (remember that). So, if Trump doesn't have more than 3 times as many lies, then you're wrong. And based on your post above, that means you lied.

But, remember, Biden has been lying for over 50 years....Trump's only been in the game for 9...

And we get to count campaign promises and every other exaggeration that Biden made...
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In reply to Keller6Ag91 • 7:44p, 5/23/24
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Keller6Ag91 said:
Aggrad08 said:
Unless you are illiterate which is a solid maybe, there is plenty of Trump misstating objective truth. You can read plenty of examples in that same post.

your argument that a lie about campaign promises doesn't count is absurd. Which lies exactly count?

There are more examples of Trump misstating objective truth than literally any other politician.

Go ahead, list every Biden lie, there are plenty, and you'll have more than three from Trump for each.


Accusing a fellow A&M grad of being illiterate is a weak troll job. And I'll take you up on your challenge. Need every comment in context.



It is when they fail to read exactly what they asked for. By all means shoot first, I'll have no problem matching 3-1
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In reply to Ag with kids • 7:46p, 5/23/24
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Ag with kids said:
Aggrad08 said:
Unless you are illiterate which is a solid maybe, there is plenty of Trump misstating objective truth. You can read plenty of examples in that same post.

your argument that a lie about campaign promises doesn't count is absurd. Which lies exactly count?

There are more examples of Trump misstating objective truth than literally any other politician.

Go ahead, list every Biden lie, there are plenty, and you'll have more than three from Trump for each.
Words have meaning (remember that). So, if Trump doesn't have more than 3 times as many lies, then you're wrong. And based on your post above, that means you lied.

But, remember, Biden has been lying for over 50 years....Trump's only been in the game for 9...

And we get to count campaign promises and every other exaggeration that Biden made...



Yup exactly. This is what you fail to understand. Trumps volume is so extreme he blows away lifelong politicians. And we are talking about lifelong politicians who aren't unusually honest.

And another issue with Trump is how often he repeats the same lie over and over. So go ahead and get digging.
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In reply to Ag with kids • 7:47p, 5/23/24
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Ag with kids said:
Aggrad08 said:
Unless you are illiterate which is a solid maybe, there is plenty of Trump misstating objective truth. You can read plenty of examples in that same post.

your argument that a lie about campaign promises doesn't count is absurd. Which lies exactly count?

There are more examples of Trump misstating objective truth than literally any other politician.

Go ahead, list every Biden lie, there are plenty, and you'll have more than three from Trump for each.
Words have meaning (remember that). So, if Trump doesn't have more than 3 times as many lies, then you're wrong. And based on your post above, that means you lied.

But, remember, Biden has been lying for over 50 years....Trump's only been in the game for 9...

And we get to count campaign promises and every other exaggeration that Biden made...


He definitely didnt think that one through. Biden's been doing it 5x as long but has trump beat 1:3? Pish posh!

But while we're here, did Uncle Joe "lie" here?

"unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things." -Joe Robinette, 2020.
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In reply to PlaneCrashGuy • 7:52p, 5/23/24
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That's more just moronic and racist. Kind of like this one


"Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It's not anything they can control."
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In reply to Aggrad08 • 7:55p, 5/23/24
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Aggrad08 said:
That's more just moronic and racist. Kind of like this one


"Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It's not anything they can control."


Sure, but it is also an assertion of fact. Should we quantify the diversity of each community to see if he told a lie? How should we do so? Rhetorical questions of course.

Point being mincing politicians words to declare who lies the most is both unproductive and unhelpful.
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In reply to PlaneCrashGuy • 8:00p, 5/23/24
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PlaneCrashGuy said:
Aggrad08 said:
That's more just moronic and racist. Kind of like this one


"Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It's not anything they can control."


Sure, but it is also an assertion of fact. Should we quantify the diversity of each community to see if he told a lie? How should we do so? Rhetorical questions of course.

Point being mincing politicians words to declare who lies the most is both unproductive and unhelpful.


What's unhelpful is pretending Trump doesn't lie extensively and acting like biden lies significantly more as an excuse for Trump.

My actual statements to begin with had nothing to do with Biden but rather claims about trumps honesty. I brought up Biden to respond to the whataboutism from the other post.
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In reply to Aggrad08 • 12:02a, 5/24/24
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Aggrad08 said:
Ag with kids said:
Aggrad08 said:
Unless you are illiterate which is a solid maybe, there is plenty of Trump misstating objective truth. You can read plenty of examples in that same post.

your argument that a lie about campaign promises doesn't count is absurd. Which lies exactly count?

There are more examples of Trump misstating objective truth than literally any other politician.

Go ahead, list every Biden lie, there are plenty, and you'll have more than three from Trump for each.
Words have meaning (remember that). So, if Trump doesn't have more than 3 times as many lies, then you're wrong. And based on your post above, that means you lied.

But, remember, Biden has been lying for over 50 years....Trump's only been in the game for 9...

And we get to count campaign promises and every other exaggeration that Biden made...



Yup exactly. This is what you fail to understand. Trumps volume is so extreme he blows away lifelong politicians. And we are talking about lifelong politicians who aren't unusually honest.

And another issue with Trump is how often he repeats the same lie over and over. So go ahead and get digging.
Oh BS....

So, you've stated that he has more than 3 lies per Biden lie. It's up to you to now prove it.

Because words have meaning as you told me earlier.

So, until you prove that your statement is correct, we can only assume you aren't wrong, but that you lied.

Here...I'll spot you one:

Joe Biden: If I'm elected, we're going to cure cancer
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In reply to Ag with kids • 12:07a, 5/24/24
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Give me your total number of Biden lies and I'll provide you your three each. Show me all you got. I want a full list and I'll triple it. No one at a time crap.
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In reply to Aggrad08 • 7:49a, 5/24/24
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Give me your total number of Biden lies and I'll provide you your three each. Show me all you got. I want a full list and I'll triple it. No one at a time crap.


lol, bailing out on one lie.
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In reply to TRADUCTOR • 9:27a, 5/24/24
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I'm not bailing. I said from the first post for you to post your Biden list.

It makes no sense for me to post both lists, people will just deny the Biden list is exhaustive. Think it through. I've already posted more Trump lies by more than three than any Biden lies so far.
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9:39a, 5/24/24
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Is this off topic slap fight still going on?
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In reply to Aggrad08 • 1:32p, 5/24/24
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Aggrad08 said:
Give me your total number of Biden lies and I'll provide you your three each. Show me all you got. I want a full list and I'll triple it. No one at a time crap.
No...you made the claim. You provide the data.
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In reply to BQ78 • 1:33p, 5/24/24
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Is this off topic slap fight still going on?
So, vote Biden?
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In reply to Ag with kids • 1:40p, 5/24/24
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If we are talking off the island, yes.

But what do Trump and Biden lies have to do with Noem lies?
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In reply to Ag with kids • 1:53p, 5/24/24
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Ag with kids said:
Aggrad08 said:
Give me your total number of Biden lies and I'll provide you your three each. Show me all you got. I want a full list and I'll triple it. No one at a time crap.
No...you made the claim. You provide the data.


Go back and read what I wrote. It's clear in context and even some posters above accepted the challenge.

You find Biden lies and I'll triple.
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In reply to Aggrad08 • 8:58a, 5/25/24
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Aggrad08 said:
Ag with kids said:
Aggrad08 said:
Give me your total number of Biden lies and I'll provide you your three each. Show me all you got. I want a full list and I'll triple it. No one at a time crap.
No...you made the claim. You provide the data.


Go back and read what I wrote. It's clear in context and even some posters above accepted the challenge.

You find Biden lies and I'll triple.
Let's see.

How many Biden lies in relation to his son's and brother's business?
How many Biden lies in relation to Beau?

I'm guessing you will need 3,000++ 'lies' to cover those Biden lies.
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In reply to BQ78 • 9:23a, 5/25/24
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If we are talking off the island, yes.

But what do Trump and Biden lies have to do with Noem lies?
Nothing. No one else's lies take away one iota from Noem's lies.

They're good whataboutisms, but, again, they take nothing away from Noem's lies.
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In reply to Aggrad08 • 10:21a, 5/25/24
Aggrad08 said:
Ag with kids said:
Aggrad08 said:
Give me your total number of Biden lies and I'll provide you your three each. Show me all you got. I want a full list and I'll triple it. No one at a time crap.
No...you made the claim. You provide the data.


Go back and read what I wrote. It's clear in context and even some posters above accepted the challenge.

You find Biden lies and I'll triple.



Are they lies if he actually believes his own claims?

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In reply to IIIHorn • 10:24a, 5/25/24
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IIIHorn said:
Aggrad08 said:
Ag with kids said:
Aggrad08 said:
Give me your total number of Biden lies and I'll provide you your three each. Show me all you got. I want a full list and I'll triple it. No one at a time crap.
No...you made the claim. You provide the data.


Go back and read what I wrote. It's clear in context and even some posters above accepted the challenge.

You find Biden lies and I'll triple.



Are they lies if he actually believes his own claims?




Perhaps not, in which case it's just profound delusion, which is worse.
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In reply to bobbranco • 10:25a, 5/25/24
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Like I said shoot your shot.
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In reply to Aggrad08 • 10:27a, 5/25/24
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Like I said shoot your shot.
Weak reply because Biden lies constantly for political gain. That's what Democrats do.
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In reply to Aggrad08 • 10:30a, 5/25/24
Aggrad08 said:
IIIHorn said:
Aggrad08 said:
Ag with kids said:
Aggrad08 said:
Give me your total number of Biden lies and I'll provide you your three each. Show me all you got. I want a full list and I'll triple it. No one at a time crap.
No...you made the claim. You provide the data.


Go back and read what I wrote. It's clear in context and even some posters above accepted the challenge.

You find Biden lies and I'll triple.



Are they lies if he actually believes his own claims?




Perhaps not, in which case it's just profound delusion, which is worse.


Your request might be difficult if Biden is listless.


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In reply to bobbranco • 10:48a, 5/25/24
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bobbranco said:
Aggrad08 said:
Like I said shoot your shot.
Weak reply because Biden lies constantly for political gain. That's what Democrats do.


You really think Trump doesn't?
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In reply to Aggrad08 • 10:50a, 5/25/24
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Aggrad08 said:
bobbranco said:
Aggrad08 said:
Like I said shoot your shot.
Weak reply because Biden lies constantly for political gain. That's what Democrats do.


You really think Trump doesn't?
They all lie. Not surprising. The beloved Jefferson the first Democrat President set the stage with his great lies.
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In reply to bobbranco • 11:07a, 5/25/24
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Yes they all lie, some more than others. Trump is exceptional in this regard.
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In reply to Aggrad08 • 11:12a, 5/25/24
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Aggrad08 said:
Ag with kids said:
Aggrad08 said:
Give me your total number of Biden lies and I'll provide you your three each. Show me all you got. I want a full list and I'll triple it. No one at a time crap.
No...you made the claim. You provide the data.


Go back and read what I wrote. It's clear in context and even some posters above accepted the challenge.

You find Biden lies and I'll triple.


I doubt you will, but lets start with you sourcing, with links & context, 783 Trump lies.
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IIIHorn said:
Aggrad08 said:
Ag with kids said:
Aggrad08 said:
Give me your total number of Biden lies and I'll provide you your three each. Show me all you got. I want a full list and I'll triple it. No one at a time crap.
No...you made the claim. You provide the data.


Go back and read what I wrote. It's clear in context and even some posters above accepted the challenge.

You find Biden lies and I'll triple.



Are they lies if he actually believes his own claims?

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In reply to Aggrad08 • 11:23a, 5/25/24
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Aggrad08 said:
Ag with kids said:
Aggrad08 said:
Give me your total number of Biden lies and I'll provide you your three each. Show me all you got. I want a full list and I'll triple it. No one at a time crap.
No...you made the claim. You provide the data.


Go back and read what I wrote. It's clear in context and even some posters above accepted the challenge.

You find Biden lies and I'll triple.
Start with this...

Quote:
Here's The Authoritative List Of Lies Joe Biden Has Told As President: 371 And Counting
I await my 1113 lies...

Oh...but that's just as POTUS through 9/23...so only 1.5 of his 50 years.
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In reply to Ag with kids • 11:41a, 5/25/24
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Such a low number. As your list counts repeats it's pretty easy to get there with Trump. It is also pretty loose counting things like "Biden says he works for Kamala".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/

Even with objections this list is at 30,573. And we both know the numbers during presidential years are going to be far higher.
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Aggrad08 said:
Such a low number. As your list counts repeats it's pretty easy to get there with Trump. It is also pretty loose counting things like "Biden says he works for Kamala".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/

Even with objections this list is at 30,573. And we both know the numbers during presidential years are going to be far higher.
Your list of lies is just that...

A list of lies.

But, not by Trump...
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