How DeSantis discouraged UF occupation

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Thunderstruck xx said:

shiftyandquick said:

Btw, I attended a university that required approval for all protests. And they didn't approve protests. And punishments were very possible for anyone participating in a non-approved protest. There was absolutely no free speech at this university. You guys would love it.


Oh really? Tell us the name of the university.


A&M has designated "free speech" areas and I'm pretty sure you have to reserve them. You can't just show up.
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shiftyandquick said:

Btw, I attended a university that required approval for all protests. And they didn't approve protests. And punishments were very possible for anyone participating in a non-approved protest. There was absolutely no free speech at this university. You guys would love it.



The list of allowable activities in the OP is free speech. Everything else is used to disrupt the lives of other people.

Saying what you want to say about a subject is not a problem. No conservatives on this board have an issue with people sharing their opinions.

When your activities prevent other humans from going about their business freely both physically and without feeling threatened. You have now moved away from free speech and entered harassment. There are no protections for that.

It is really not hard to comprehend.



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It's a damn shame he backed down from Trump. The GOP is a MAGA party. Best we can hope for is DJT taking cues from rd and trying to take credit for it.
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Kenneth_2003 said:

Thunderstruck xx said:

shiftyandquick said:

Btw, I attended a university that required approval for all protests. And they didn't approve protests. And punishments were very possible for anyone participating in a non-approved protest. There was absolutely no free speech at this university. You guys would love it.


Oh really? Tell us the name of the university.


A&M has designated "free speech" areas and I'm pretty sure you have to reserve them. You can't just show up.
IIRC, some areas require a permit/reservation while other places do not, and other locations it is prohibited.

The ones that do are because a large enough event could disrupt normal university activities.

The reason they are prohibited in some areas is because a gathering of any size would be disruptive.
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Thunderstruck xx said:

shiftyandquick said:

Btw, I attended a university that required approval for all protests. And they didn't approve protests. And punishments were very possible for anyone participating in a non-approved protest. There was absolutely no free speech at this university. You guys would love it.


Oh really? Tell us the name of the university.
Probably BYU.
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Rongagin71 said:

shiftyandquick said:

DeSantis is good at rolling out red meat that plays to the base. He's less good at being a relatable human being that people like. And that's why he gone.
I disagree to some extent.
His voice is a little harsh, but his competence shines through
his mannerisms and quick response to questions.
The idea that he is "not likable" was funded and pushed
both by Dems and by the Trump Campaign.
I really like DeSantis, but ultimately, I don't need to like him. I just have to like his policies and ideas, which I do - in spades.

I do not care for Trump on a personal level, but you'd better believe I would crawl through Hell in a gasoline suit to vote for him this November!
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Ag87H2O said:

DeSantis is absolutely brilliant at identifying problems, analyzing options, developing policy, and implementing with a vengeance. His reputation for no bulls*** and delivering on his promises is impeccable.

If a blue state Governor delivered that proclamation, most of the useful idiots and paid subversives would laugh and keep protesting. In Florida, they whine and move on because they know DeSantis doesn't bluff, and if they don't stop they'll be out of school and staring at the bars in a jail cell in short order.
I hope to God Trump wins and DeSantis follows or another true Conservative.

Trump can stop the bleeding, DeSantis can enforce the right agenda in to law

We need 12 years, that will set us on the right "corrected" path. As long as DeSantis or whoever follows Trump get the needed stuff through congress.

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[eyeing second home in Florida just to diversify options]
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Amazing what happens when you threaten children with real consequences
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Tramp96 said:

Draconian?? BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Let me introduce them to the St. Mary's school nuns in Taylor, TX in the 1970's. I am so very thankful for having discipline instilled in me at a very young age.


Taylor, TX you say? Class of '96? I was born in Taylor…
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Pretty simple when you introduce grownups, common sense, and sanity into the situation.
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shiftyandquick said:

Btw, I attended a university that required approval for all protests. And they didn't approve protests. And punishments were very possible for anyone participating in a non-approved protest. There was absolutely no free speech at this university. You guys would love it.


The next Democrat to understand free speech will be the first

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policywonk98 said:

shiftyandquick said:

Btw, I attended a university that required approval for all protests. And they didn't approve protests. And punishments were very possible for anyone participating in a non-approved protest. There was absolutely no free speech at this university. You guys would love it.



The list of allowable activities in the OP is free speech. Everything else is used to disrupt the lives of other people.

Saying what you want to say about a subject is not a problem. No conservatives on this board have an issue with people sharing their opinions.

When your activities prevent other humans from going about their business freely both physically and without feeling threatened. You have now moved away from free speech and entered harassment. There are no protections for that.

It is really not hard to comprehend.



It clearly is …for certain folk. Poster actually thought they were being clever
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C6PgrGMOxYw/?igsh=MTJ0aTFhMXd6bjR4bw==

Looks like A&M won't be able to escape the national phenomenon
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BigRobSA said:

Stacking Ws, as per usual.

Oh, what could have been
Breakin necks and cashin checks
Today is Yesterday's Pupil
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B$Weigem said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C6PgrGMOxYw/?igsh=MTJ0aTFhMXd6bjR4bw==

Looks like A&M won't be able to escape the national phenomenon


A whopping 20 comments on that post. The first commenter I looked at was a "earth citizen" and a self proclaimed "tree hugger"
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I think that's chalk boy.
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deddog said:

B$Weigem said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C6PgrGMOxYw/?igsh=MTJ0aTFhMXd6bjR4bw==

Looks like A&M won't be able to escape the national phenomenon


A whopping 20 comments on that post. The first commenter I looked at was a "earth citizen" and a self proclaimed "tree hugger"
My God! What does he do to those poor trees?
Cover up your knotholes, Trees!
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policywonk98 said:

shiftyandquick said:

Btw, I attended a university that required approval for all protests. And they didn't approve protests. And punishments were very possible for anyone participating in a non-approved protest. There was absolutely no free speech at this university. You guys would love it.



The list of allowable activities in the OP is free speech. Everything else is used to disrupt the lives of other people.




Well starred but underrated.

If you want to have a protest. But leave it in areas where people can listen to it if they choose.


A little known fact about Kent State was that protesters were setting fires, attacking cops, looting, and vandalizing the town. and then blocking firetrucks from putting out fires and slashing their hoses.

Passerby's were shot, not glossing over that.

The deaths were of course unfortunate and reprehensible but it's not like they opened up fire on people with a megaphone in the free speech mall on campus. They ignored orders by armed forces to disperse, began throwing rocks, got tear gassed, then kept throwing rocks.

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That's how you SEC.
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shiftyandquick said:

Btw, I attended a university that required approval for all protests. And they didn't approve protests. And punishments were very possible for anyone participating in a non-approved protest. There was absolutely no free speech at this university. You guys would love it.


Sounds very equitable, almost as equitable as socialism where everyone gets an equal share of nothing. Therefore sounds like a university you would love
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For context.....





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Ugh, I can smell them through the internet and I want to puke up the lunch I just ate. Hopefully, for the sake of general hygiene, the cops gave them all the Rambo firehose treatment in the jail.
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Please let them put their masks back on.
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Wonder how many of those actually are UF students
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Liberalism sucks.
Kozmozag
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She embraced her crazy.
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TRM said:





Got some Greta in her judging by this pic.
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Her father must be so embarrassed. What a troglodyte.
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Ag with kids said:

shiftyandquick said:

DeSantis is good at rolling out red meat that plays to the base. He's less good at being a relatable human being that people like. And that's why he gone.
He's been elected as Governor of the 3rd largest state twice and as well as being elected to the HoR 3 times...

The story that he's not relatable is just horse crap.

He lost because :

a) Trump sucks all the air out of the room (for good or bad)
b) MAGA supporters were 100% in on Trump and Trump only
c) The media amplified both a) and b)

He lost in large part because he ran a crappy campaign. I hope he has the character to take responsibility for his own failures and not pass them off to others even if his supporters don't.

Every DeSantis campaign apologist on here (and I truly do like the guy) doesn't realize that every time they take a dump on Trump, they're essentially burying their own guy. If Trump can't win (or is a _____), and DeSantis can't beat Trump, how is that anything but a negative for DeSantis?
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91AggieLawyer said:

Ag with kids said:

shiftyandquick said:

DeSantis is good at rolling out red meat that plays to the base. He's less good at being a relatable human being that people like. And that's why he gone.
He's been elected as Governor of the 3rd largest state twice and as well as being elected to the HoR 3 times...

The story that he's not relatable is just horse crap.

He lost because :

a) Trump sucks all the air out of the room (for good or bad)
b) MAGA supporters were 100% in on Trump and Trump only
c) The media amplified both a) and b)

He lost in large part because he ran a crappy campaign. I hope he has the character to take responsibility for his own failures and not pass them off to others even if his supporters don't.

Every DeSantis campaign apologist on here (and I truly do like the guy) doesn't realize that every time they take a dump on Trump, they're essentially burying their own guy. If Trump can't win (or is a _____), and DeSantis can't beat Trump, how is that anything but a negative for DeSantis?
I didn't take a dump on Trump.

I detailed the reasons that DeSantis lost. And it wasn't a "crappy campaign". DeSantis ran against the de facto "incumbent". Like Reagan did in 1976.

But, apparently, any criticism of Trump is taken as an attack on him which cannot be accepted...

ts5641
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The guy just keeps making bold leadership decisions that work. He's hardly put a foot wrong as a leader.
If only...
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91AggieLawyer said:

Ag with kids said:

shiftyandquick said:

DeSantis is good at rolling out red meat that plays to the base. He's less good at being a relatable human being that people like. And that's why he gone.
He's been elected as Governor of the 3rd largest state twice and as well as being elected to the HoR 3 times...

The story that he's not relatable is just horse crap.

He lost because :

a) Trump sucks all the air out of the room (for good or bad)
b) MAGA supporters were 100% in on Trump and Trump only
c) The media amplified both a) and b)

He lost in large part because he ran a crappy campaign. I hope he has the character to take responsibility for his own failures and not pass them off to others even if his supporters don't.

Every DeSantis campaign apologist on here (and I truly do like the guy) doesn't realize that every time they take a dump on Trump, they're essentially burying their own guy. If Trump can't win (or is a _____), and DeSantis can't beat Trump, how is that anything but a negative for DeSantis?


Lol, what an grossly unnuanced take on the Primary race.
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Ag with kids said:

91AggieLawyer said:

Ag with kids said:

shiftyandquick said:

DeSantis is good at rolling out red meat that plays to the base. He's less good at being a relatable human being that people like. And that's why he gone.
He's been elected as Governor of the 3rd largest state twice and as well as being elected to the HoR 3 times...

The story that he's not relatable is just horse crap.

He lost because :

a) Trump sucks all the air out of the room (for good or bad)
b) MAGA supporters were 100% in on Trump and Trump only
c) The media amplified both a) and b)

He lost in large part because he ran a crappy campaign. I hope he has the character to take responsibility for his own failures and not pass them off to others even if his supporters don't.

Every DeSantis campaign apologist on here (and I truly do like the guy) doesn't realize that every time they take a dump on Trump, they're essentially burying their own guy. If Trump can't win (or is a _____), and DeSantis can't beat Trump, how is that anything but a negative for DeSantis?
I didn't take a dump on Trump.

I detailed the reasons that DeSantis lost. And it wasn't a "crappy campaign". DeSantis ran against the de facto "incumbent". Like Reagan did in 1976.

But, apparently, any criticism of Trump is taken as an attack on him which cannot be accepted...



All 'Republicans' with TDS are the same as Trump because they never learned "Empty vessels make the most sound".
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