Hoyt Ag said:

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I thought Portugal just revamped it with new qualifications, not totally rid of it. Not arguing, just my interpretation from my little research.

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Just meant its not as easy as it once was.

Wyoming Aggie said:

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There's plenty of places in the United States that are relatively shielded from the lunacy of todays world. Get away from cities.

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Username checks out.

I wouldn't live in Ecuador on the mainland, but I would love to retire in the Galapagos Islands. I went there about 10 years ago with my dad and it was an amazing trip. They have visa restrictions to control the population on the islands, I think it only allows non-citizens three months a year if I recall correctly.

BVI's, or Aruba. If you are not an island guy then a beach town outside of Barcelona Spain would be a great spot.

Also your money goes a very long way in Argentina. Mendoza is where I'm heading if the world starts burning and exploding. No one cares much about that side of the Andes. Drink Malbec and grow grapes.

Checkout: r/ExpatFIRE

I plan on utilizing my dual citizenship, and will most likely pick a tax advantaged EU Member State.

Ags77 said:

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I suspect you will find any country other than the USA leaving you disappointed.

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This is the correct answer.

Spain
Japan
Australia
Singapore
Norway

all have pros and cons but overall seem like solid places to live

We've talked about this quite a bit. I live close to my family now, so any move would be dependent on my parents' health.

Also, I worry about the social isolation of expat life.

Gigem_94 said:

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I work for with a lot of Japanese expats and like their culture more and more. In a lot of ways Japan seems to be more like America was decades ago except they are pretty much agnostic. Too bad I cannot speak the language.

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Just try to immigrate to Japan, not hard but plenty of paperwork.

Best country to live in outside the US

Alaska

I would move to Greece for the following reasons:

1. I speak Greek
2. We still own our family homes in the villages from where my parents are from.
3. Great climate and people.

Czech Republic or Switzerland I guess…

CR = land of my people; relaxed gun laws; beer
SWZ = relaxed gun laws; European; sounds nice

infinity ag said:

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I think some of you need a stint in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan or any of those Islamic hell holes. You will begin to appreciate America more.

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This is kind of a silly take. Just because those places are terrible and the US is objectively better than them doesn't mean there aren't place that could be better to live in than the US.

cecil77 said:

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I know people that think Switzerland is.

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"In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The ****oo clock."

Burdizzo said:

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cecil77 said:

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I know people that think Switzerland is.

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"In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The ****oo clock."

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Switzerland has always made money with other people's money, high technology and by avoiding stupid people.

Russia and poland have beautiful cultures.

aggiepanic95 said:

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Hungary. And the women are effing HOT!

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We will need proof.

What about Say-Juan-Taneo? If it was good enough for Andy Dufrain it's good enough for me.

I hear that there are hidden harbors south of Mazatlan where cool mountain waters meet the warm pacific sun.


Chiapas.

Costa Rica

Panama

Those are my top three right now, but that could change.

I may be biased compared to y'all, but I highly recommend Luxembourg. I've been here now almost 5 years and on the verge of getting my citizenship. While it's part of the Socialist EU, it's small and a very wealthy bubble in EU and great for families. We've really enjoyed it and are doing are best to get citizenship for our children who are fluent in Luxembourgish, German, and close to fluency in French (2-3 more years they'll be there). Observing the mess that the US from a distance the past couple years, this has been one of the best decisions we've made so far as a family. Highly recommend here.

WolfCall said:

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Best country to live in outside the US

Alaska

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I've already made the move. It's a great place to live if you like the outdoors and it does kind of feel like its own country.

WolfCall said:

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Best country to live in outside the US

Alaska

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too cold and off the grid for us. costa rica or the bvi's sound nice.

Grapes said:

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What no Canada???

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I worked in Canada for a few years, recently. I like the country. Racism is frowned upon. The people are a bit passive-aggressive though. The downside is Islam is claiming Canada.

I've always heard Uruguay is nice.

chjoak said:

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From my minimal research.....

Caribbean - Puerto Rico is a tax haven that doesn't require a passport. There are several other islands that offer a citizenship for $100k.

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Anybody want to tell him?

infinity ag said:

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Grapes said:

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What no Canada???

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I worked in Canada for a few years, recently. I like the country. Racism is frowned upon. The people are a bit passive-aggressive though. The downside is Islam is claiming Canada.

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The good part about the Islamists is they are right at the throat of the Woke here in Canada. Killing it in many schools. It's getting interesting to watch. Sad that Christians can't mount the same fight.

Grapes said:

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infinity ag said:

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Grapes said:

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What no Canada???

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I worked in Canada for a few years, recently. I like the country. Racism is frowned upon. The people are a bit passive-aggressive though. The downside is Islam is claiming Canada.

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The good part about the Islamists is they are right at the throat of the Woke here in Canada. Killing it in many schools. It's getting interesting to watch. Sad that Christians can't mount the same fight.

Also it's big time passive aggressive. I wouldn't say Canadians as a whole are super friendly anymore. Most are so close to the edge financially they don't give to **** about anyone else.

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WolfCall said:

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Best country to live in outside the US

Alaska

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too cold and off the grid for us. costa rica or the bvi's sound nice.

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I asked on another thread also, but what about Antigua in the Caribbean? I've gotten mixed signals on this. Was told they are trying to lure wealthy Americans with perks such as no taxes, no Visa required, etc. (if not mistaken). But I've also heard the Chinese are buying the island.

chop162 said:

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I may be biased compared to y'all, but I highly recommend Luxembourg. I've been here now almost 5 years and on the verge of getting my citizenship. While it's part of the Socialist EU, it's small and a very wealthy bubble in EU and great for families. We've really enjoyed it and are doing are best to get citizenship for our children who are fluent in Luxembourgish, German, and close to fluency in French (2-3 more years they'll be there). Observing the mess that the US from a distance the past couple years, this has been one of the best decisions we've made so far as a family. Highly recommend here.

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What took you there?

Russia! Wealthy, peaceful, prosperous! They will welcome anyone on this board who wants to relocate there! Why wait? Mother Russia is calling y'all…you should answer!

We're leaning Portugal or Malta.

If I had the means, it'd be Iceland. Specifically, this island:

https://www.architecturaldigest.in/story/what-its-like-to-live-inside-the-loneliest-house-in-the-world/

-Using a STOL plane when I run out of food/beer.

Burdizzo said:

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What can anyone tell me about Uruguay?

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The grass is always greener on the other side of the concertina wire