Ukraine flight into DFW?

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Gyles Marrett
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Maybe normal?... but interesting
jrdaustin
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Any pallets of cash sitting on the DFW tarmac at the moment?
Gyles Marrett
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Dropping of migrants in exchange for picking up those waiting pallets of cash lol.
nortex97
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We sure don't have a lot of AN-12's land at DFW daily, but our lovely CIA/FBI/DHS types I know love them some Ukrainian 'assets' (ahem, cough cough, corruption).
Gyles Marrett
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"UAA specializes in transportation of oversize cargo, has a huge experience in carrying perishables, animals, palletized cargo and mail. Flight and engineer/technical staff of the Airline are highly skilled professionals and have years of experience in civil aviation"

hmmm
nortex97
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I think it then went to Dayton Ohio, where we have a few fun toys from the USAF. I would gamble they are moving/getting some urgently needed maintenance items for aircraft/air defense systems.
jrdaustin
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nortex97 said:

I think it then went to Dayton Ohio, where we have a few fun toys from the USAF. I would gamble they are moving/getting some urgently needed maintenance items for aircraft/air defense systems.
Wonder what the first stop in Chihuahua was for. Migrants? Fentanyl? Goats?
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Probably not the An-225.

nortex97
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jrdaustin said:

nortex97 said:

I think it then went to Dayton Ohio, where we have a few fun toys from the USAF. I would gamble they are moving/getting some urgently needed maintenance items for aircraft/air defense systems.
Wonder what the first stop in Chihuahua was for. Migrants? Fentanyl? Goats?
No idea. It might have flown over from Africa to South America etc. It's kinda sorta a poor man's C-17/C-130 tweener.
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nortex97 said:

We sure don't have a lot of AN-12's land at DFW daily, but our lovely CIA/FBI/DHS types I know love them some Ukrainian 'assets' (ahem, cough cough, corruption).

No, but they aren't uncommon at Alliance.
Ciboag96
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Those Democrat Congre$$men weren't waiving Ukrainian flag$ for $h**$ and giggle$
ChemAg15
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The GOP gets kick backs too. The dems and reps just pretend to be enemies. When they start passing out the $$$ everyone gets in line.
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ChemAg15 said:

The GOP gets kick backs too. The dems and reps just pretend to be enemies. When they start passing out the $$$ everyone gets in line.


Truer words were never spoken.
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If we are going to keep sending Ukraine billions, we need to insist that they send us some of their 18-25 year old female models.
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nortex97 said:

I think it then went to Dayton Ohio, where we have a few fun toys from the USAF. I would gamble they are moving/getting some urgently needed maintenance items for aircraft/air defense systems.


The An-12 is apparently a tough airplane. I knew one Egyptian AF pilot who had nothing but good to say about them and flew them for years.
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No Spin Ag said:

ChemAg15 said:

The GOP gets kick backs too. The dems and reps just pretend to be enemies. When they start passing out the $$$ everyone gets in line.


Truer words were never spoken.
How does that work? Brown bags full of cash? Offshore accounts? New Mercedes in the driveway?
Gyles Marrett
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Urban Ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

ChemAg15 said:

The GOP gets kick backs too. The dems and reps just pretend to be enemies. When they start passing out the $$$ everyone gets in line.


Truer words were never spoken.
How does that work? Brown bags full of cash? Offshore accounts? New Mercedes in the driveway?
All of the above
Biz Ag
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Gyles Marrett said:



Maybe normal?... but interesting
Carrying 10% for the Big Guy.

Rapier108
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From its flight history, looks like it has been flying between the US and Central/South America and the Caribbean.

Next flight is tomorrow to Managua, Nicaragua.

Even though some kind of grand conspiracy is what gets people going; it is most likely likely nothing more than mundane cargo flights. Would be neat to actually see it in person; not too many chances to see an old Soviet aircraft flying around the US.
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ChemAg15 said:

The GOP gets kick backs too. The dems and reps just pretend to be enemies. When they start passing out the $$$ everyone gets in line.
LeonardSkinner
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Luka needs some help
Gyles Marrett
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Rapier108 said:

From its flight history, looks like it has been flying between the US and Central/South America and the Caribbean.

Next flight is tomorrow to Managua, Nicaragua.


Even though some kind of grand conspiracy is what gets people going; it is most likely likely nothing more than mundane cargo flights. Would be neat to actually see it in person; not too many chances to see an old Soviet aircraft flying around the US.
Here's the only part of that which makes no sense....Why is a Ukranian plane the one making "cargo" flights (whatever that cargo may be) between Central/South America and the Caribbean and the US. I may be ignorant but I'd love to know how Ukraine is the best option to be making those cargo flights on the opposite side of the world form Ukraine.
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nortex97
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Gyles Marrett said:

Rapier108 said:

From its flight history, looks like it has been flying between the US and Central/South America and the Caribbean.

Next flight is tomorrow to Managua, Nicaragua.


Even though some kind of grand conspiracy is what gets people going; it is most likely likely nothing more than mundane cargo flights. Would be neat to actually see it in person; not too many chances to see an old Soviet aircraft flying around the US.
Here's the only part of that which makes no sense....Why is a Ukranian plane the one making "cargo" flights (whatever that cargo may be) between Central/South America and the Caribbean and the US. I may be ignorant but I'd love to know how Ukraine is the best option to be making those cargo flights on the opposite side of the world form Ukraine.
CIA contractor, bro. C'mon, we all know that, right?

Charter cargo airlines are not restricted as with passenger ones to flights connecting to their home country, in all seriousness. ICAO or whatever certified cargo carriers can take contracts pretty much anywhere on earth, like sea freight/shippers. Operating an old AN-12 with an older Russian/Ukrainian crew is probably pretty cheap for what it hauls.

But it's the CIA. Trust me.
ChemAg15
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Shell companies and Super PACs. How do you think public servants reach an 8 figure net worth?
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Gyles Marrett said:

Rapier108 said:

From its flight history, looks like it has been flying between the US and Central/South America and the Caribbean.

Next flight is tomorrow to Managua, Nicaragua.


Even though some kind of grand conspiracy is what gets people going; it is most likely likely nothing more than mundane cargo flights. Would be neat to actually see it in person; not too many chances to see an old Soviet aircraft flying around the US.
Here's the only part of that which makes no sense....Why is a Ukranian plane the one making "cargo" flights (whatever that cargo may be) between Central/South America and the Caribbean and the US. I may be ignorant but I'd love to know how Ukraine is the best option to be making those cargo flights on the opposite side of the world form Ukraine.



When the Cold War ended and the Soviet Union broke up, Ukraine was gifted one of the largest air forces in the world. As a broke Eastern European country with a classic Soviet corruption problem, they started a fairly large cargo charter operation amongst multiple companies. The now (in)famous AN-225, currently in pieces due to the war, was a frequent visitor at Bush Intercontinental when I younger, and I've seen Ukrainian contract airlift aircraft across the world. Some are used for nefarious cargo, some are just the lowest bidder on a government contract.
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Urban Ag said:

No Spin Ag said:

ChemAg15 said:

The GOP gets kick backs too. The dems and reps just pretend to be enemies. When they start passing out the $$$ everyone gets in line.


Truer words were never spoken.
How does that work? Brown bags full of cash? Offshore accounts? New Mercedes in the driveway?


Can tell if this is a serious or purposely an obtuse ?
Gyles Marrett
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Brewskis said:

Gyles Marrett said:

Rapier108 said:

From its flight history, looks like it has been flying between the US and Central/South America and the Caribbean.

Next flight is tomorrow to Managua, Nicaragua.


Even though some kind of grand conspiracy is what gets people going; it is most likely likely nothing more than mundane cargo flights. Would be neat to actually see it in person; not too many chances to see an old Soviet aircraft flying around the US.
Here's the only part of that which makes no sense....Why is a Ukranian plane the one making "cargo" flights (whatever that cargo may be) between Central/South America and the Caribbean and the US. I may be ignorant but I'd love to know how Ukraine is the best option to be making those cargo flights on the opposite side of the world form Ukraine.



When the Cold War ended and the Soviet Union broke up, Ukraine was gifted one of the largest air forces in the world. As a broke Eastern European country with a classic Soviet corruption problem, they started a fairly large cargo charter operation amongst multiple companies. The now (in)famous AN-225, currently in pieces due to the war, was a frequent visitor at Bush Intercontinental when I younger, and I've seen Ukrainian contract airlift aircraft across the world. Some are used for nefarious cargo, some are just the lowest bidder on a government contract.
Interesting. Learned something new and enlightening so thanks.

I guess with such a large air force and big money maker flying cargo around we can stop sending them billions so that's great news!
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