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Saw that earlier but the thing is absolutely redacted to high heavens. My guess is that it gets, at best, a perfunctory investigation and shrugged off. There were some other press reports detailing a bit more from the prosecution about how the defense either misquoted or misrepresented some statements. I wouldn't be surprised to see it be completely true or completely false. No way to evaluate any of it based on the court filings.

Which I'm actually okay with at this time. Not because there weren't shennanigans or w/e, but because once you expose jurors during that process it could bring a lot of outside nonsense and that needs to not spill into the system. Yeah the SDNY is completely corrupt and nothing should be trusted there and both the judge and jury are or have some bad actors, but that's a VERY dangerous line to tread on imho.

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My main concern is outside jury tampering. That does need to be punished and heavily discouraged.

Former governor Rod Blagojevich goes on JRE #2245 and makes the case that the lawfare we see today against Trump started with him. Says Obama's machine got'em. Same tactics employed against Trump with the sealed evidence, gag orders and so forth.

Wild story and worth a listen.

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Former governor Rod Blagojevich goes on JRE #2245 and makes the case that the lawfare we see today against Trump started with him. Says Obama's machine got'em. Same tactics employed against Trump with the sealed evidence, gag orders and so forth.

Wild story and worth a listen.

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Yeah I never really understood that. Blago was just doing what every Dem pol in ILL does. Corruption is their calling card. Unless Obama was steamed he wasn't getting his cut?

Blago is a criminal. His trying to relevant by calling it "lawfare" is laughable!

It would be like the Alcee Hastings saying he sympathizes with Kavanaugh because they went after him too!

Not quite

aezmvp said:

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Saw that earlier but the thing is absolutely redacted to high heavens. My guess is that it gets, at best, a perfunctory investigation and shrugged off. There were some other press reports detailing a bit more from the prosecution about how the defense either misquoted or misrepresented some statements. I wouldn't be surprised to see it be completely true or completely false. No way to evaluate any of it based on the court filings.

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The juror or person who the defense says emailed them won't sign a statement and the defense itself said a hearing would be inappropriate. The defense also didn't provide the alleged emails. And the judge followed up by saying he's not putting more of the letter out there about jurors if there is zero ability to verify the claims in the letter about the jurors.

So I think the likely upshot is this is going nowhere and we've heard the end of it

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Just milking every news cycle they can out of this.

Technically the claim of 34 felonies aren't convictions until Merchan finalizes the case. It's just an open ended case to date.

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This is incorrect. Trump was convicted on May 30, 2024 when the jury verdict was entered onto the docket.

Trump has not been sentenced nor has judgment been entered, as that comprises the conviction and sentencing.

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New York Criminal Procedure Law - CPL 1.20:

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12. "Verdict" means the announcement by a jury in the case of a jury trial, or by the court in the case of a non-jury trial, of its decision upon the defendant's guilt or innocence of the charges submitted to or considered by it.
13. "Conviction" means the entry of a plea of guilty to, or a verdict of guilty upon, an accusatory instrument other than a felony complaint, or to one or more counts of such instrument.
14. "Sentence" means the imposition and entry of sentence upon a conviction.
15. "Judgment." A judgment is comprised of a conviction and the sentence imposed thereon and is completed by imposition and entry of the sentence.

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https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/criminal-procedure-law/cpl-sect-1-20/

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Others beg to differ

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May want to rewatch your video. The guy says what his experience is in federal court and other state courts, but that he does not know if it is different in NY.

Looks like NY is different based on what TexAggie2011 posted.

Try again Sheriff.

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May want to rewatch your video. The guy says what his experience is in federal court and other state courts, but that he does not know if it is different in NY.

Looks like NY is different based on what TexAggie2011 posted.

Try again Sheriff.

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I'm well aware of what was said in the video. I'm sure the person I was replying to is more than able to express his own opinion. But I was just adding other viewpoints to the discussion

Not sure what happened here, but Donald J. Trump is POTUS come 1-20-24, and thanks to MLK day, we get a day off to BBQ and celebrate it.

Maybe we should schedule a tee time that day instead of BBQ? Why not both?

Or maybe the pending EO that closes the border, for real?

If that is not BBQ worthy, I'm not sure what is.

The "other viewpoints" you posted didn't conflict with TexasAggie2011. The video guy admitted he didn't know the law in New York.

Thomas Massie digging in the muck. Ignore the tweet just listen to the video

So let me get this straight, Matt Gaetz gets selected for Attorney General

- Vows to target Congress insider trading
- Calls Ukraine a money laundering operation

Magically has underage sexual assault ALLEGATIONS, not charges, publicly released BUT the Congress reps who used $17… pic.twitter.com/Dk3kdIEtyQ

— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) December 23, 2024