These weight loss pills will someday be revealed to be terrible for our health.

C@LAg said:

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hph6203 said:

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Not sure if you know this, but you didn't refute my point. 60% of people are not going to suddenly successfully diet and exercise, and to think they are is denying trends. You might as well become a card-carrying member of the communist party if you believe that's possible, you already live in the right place, just knock on your neighbor's door they'll point you to HQ.

Also, never been fat in my life, never even been hungry in my life. Ever. Gone 5 days straight without eating, still didn't get hungry. That's called genetic variation. This drug causes fat people to operate more like me. I am not skinny and they are not fat purely based upon willpower alone.

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science does not support you on this.

obesity as we know it today really was not around in the 50s or before. yes, there were fatties, but not in the numbers there are today.

america has gotten fatter and fatter each decade.

that is not due to some mythical genetic variation or whatever bull**** you are spouting.

it is due to people be lazy asses who stuff their gobs with unhealthy diets and sit around on their phones instead of getting in some exercise.

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It's due to the drugs our food companies put into the food. Preservatives, flavor adders, sugars and other chemicals that build an addiction to the food and cause the consumer to need more a few hours later.

The research actually says that exercise is a horrible method for losing weight. But you goofballs don't know that because you don't understand the physiological responses that occur from eating, not eating, and exercising.

Hint, exercising makes you hungry and eating calories is substantially easier than burning them.


Goofy C@L thinks that it's the choices people make that changed dramatically, but it wasn't the people making the choices it was the companies presenting the choices that changed. Had all of those convenient food been available in 1960 those people would have been fat at the same proportions as modern Americans, because there's genetic variation in hunger, those whose genetics are misaligned with modern prosperity become fatties as a result. Those skinny people were puffing down cigarettes like they were all they needed in the world, people didn't deprioritize health, people are people. Addiction prone animals.


Corporations targeted whale consumers and those whale consumers became whale consumers, because they are predisposed to being whale consumers.



And I'll reiterate, I'll bet half of the people calling people fat are probably >220 lbs. but think because they are <275 that they aren't fatties in their own right.

RanchoBrushyTop said:

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You are Barnes.

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This is exactly what Barnes would say if he created a new account...to disguise him(her)self...

WestAustinAg said:

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These weight loss pills will someday be revealed to be terrible for our health.

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These aren't weight loss pills. They are diabetic drugs that have been used for years for millions of people. We know what they do to our health. They were meant to be taken for long term use.

Teslag said:

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WestAustinAg said:

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These weight loss pills will someday be revealed to be terrible for our health.

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These aren't weight loss pills. They are diabetic drugs that have been used for years for millions of people. We know what they do to our health. They were meant to be taken for long term use.

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Dammit. Stop with the fax...

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there's genetic variation in hunger, those whose genetics are misaligned with modern prosperity become fatties as a result.

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This can't be overstated. And those "just eat less" people are nuts. Losing/maintaining weight is one of the most difficult things a typical adult can do in modern society.

If you only need 1500 calories per day, but society (ads, availability, "3 meals per day" expectations, etc, etc) present 3000+ calories per day as "normal" you're going to gain wt. (period)

And ironically enough those that only need 1500 calories per day are genetically superior. They are the ones who could thrive w/out having to kill as many bears or find enough to eat. They can survive the hard times.

All of the comments of "fatties should just eat less", while accurate, are moralistic bombast that does no one any good. I can just hear the "harumph" and little sniff that follows those comments.

The good of these drugs will probably outweigh the long term bad. And you can go to any medispa, and get them. All the rich ladies are using them.

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I love all the people that will get on here and talk tons of **** about fat people and then when the medication is created to assist them to lose weight, you make fun of them for that.

I would be willing to bet that most of the people talking **** about the fatties are really only thin by American standards and are probably fatties themselves.

Whatever the medication potentially does, it is probably significantly better than what diabetes and heart disease will do to them.

Most people are having to pay this out-of-pocket, so not really sure what the complaint is. If women want to use it to drop a few pounds and look better I'm not complaining.

Have you seen women lately?

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congrats on your low expectations for people to be responsible for themselves.

and you are delusional if you do not think we will ALL be paying for this so the fatties can be covered.

fatties have one of the most straightforward problems to be solved. It just takes effort. They did not get fat overnight. They will not get control overnight.

and these pills do not fix what is broken. it isa (at best) a stop-gap measure that does not work WITHOUT diet and exercise. otherwise you are on pills for life.

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We are already paying for the fatties 10 times fold.

The healthiest way to lose and maintain a healthy weight is through diet. The way I look at it, there's a sizeable percentage of the population that just will not adhere to a proper diet. Doesn't really matter the reason, they aren't going to do it. Now this population of fatties in my mind is a drain on Healthcare. It makes everything more expensive because they tend to get sick and die from a variety of ailments for being fatties. I know drugs have side effects, but the question is which is worse? These people aren't going to lose weight without the drugs. 100% not happening. So pick your poison.

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So, when should we short it when they inevitably get successful ly sued for a massive amount over some side effect or other after tens of millions of fatties jump at a short cut to self control?

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i'm actually hopeful there is some side effect

the danger from having 100 Million Americans taking EVERY WEEK FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES a shot or a pill because they were morbidly obese and don't want to exercise is nearly unbelievable

but then you look around us here, and it's completely believable.

why should ANYONE watch what they eat, stay hungry, exercise every day, give up alcohol and desserts...when you can just get shot up on drugs instead?

MORAL HAZARD- google it.

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Get off of social media. Do something. Be positive. Be valuable. Spend time with your family.

MORAL HAZARD - Google it

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The way I look at it, there's a sizeable percentage of the population that just will not adhere to a proper diet.

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While true, there is not "a" proper diet. Everyone's genetics are different. One person may only require 1600 calories per day to maintain weight and be healthy, while another may require 3000, and another may tolerate 4000.

The lack of compassion on this thread is astounding. Yes, there are many fat people who just eat too much and have for years (or at least too much for their genetics. Yes, it's the individual's responsibility to maintain weight and health. But please realize that for many (if no most) Americans it's really, really difficult to be a member of this society and restrict caloric intake, especially if your genetics dictate that you just don't require many.

They had quick weight loss even back in the 80s

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The good of these drugs will probably outweigh the long term bad. And you can go to any medispa, and get them. All the rich ladies are using them.

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Rinse and repeat.

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The way I look at it, there's a sizeable percentage of the population that just will not adhere to a proper diet.

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While true, there is not "a" proper diet. Everyone's genetics are different. One person may only require 1600 calories per day to maintain weight and be healthy, while another may require 3000, and another may tolerate 4000.

The lack of compassion on this thread is astounding. Yes, there are many fat people who just eat too much and have for years (or at least too much for their genetics. Yes, it's the individual's responsibility to maintain weight and health. But please realize that for many (if no most) Americans it's really, really difficult to be a member of this society and restrict caloric intake, especially if your genetics dictate that you just don't require many.

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Those are some wild swings in metabolism if those numbers are true. I can agree that different people have different metabolism, but I think it's universally understood what foods are good for you and what are not. My point is, there's a sizeable portion of the population that will not stop eating ****ty foods.

It's mostly total calorie count. Yes some foods are more calorie dense, therefore easier to eat too many calories.