The propositions/results can be found by scrolling through all the other non-sense (Phalen/Covey run off is huge):

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/projects/2024/texas-primary-election-results/

But first a question about the propositions:

Proposition 9 is specifically for Republicans. D's and R's across Texas voted Yes or No. I would have expected more No.

Just adding up the POTUS votes for the good guys and the bad guys and 3,295,437 total votes.

Proposition 9 total votes equals 2,219,132....... That means 1,076,305 did not vote for Proposition 9.

Each proposition has ROUGHLY the same total, but to show up to vote and ROUGHLY 1/3 of the voters did not vote for the propositions.

I was under the belief that those proposition polls are Republican primary only. Which if true means something like 90% of republicans that voted for president in the primary voted on the props.

Look no farther than the Republican propositions to see what's wrong with the party. Let's all not take the measles vaccine! Wow

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Look no farther than the Republican propositions to see what's wrong with the party. Let's all not take the measles vaccine! Wow

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Sorry you hate freedom so much

ds00 said:

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Look no farther than the Republican propositions to see what's wrong with the party. Let's all not take the measles vaccine! Wow

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"Farther" relates to distance, "further" is a definition of degree. You should have said "further".

Jamal Wallace to Professor Robert Crawford
Finding Forrester

It's less freedom to have closed primaries and push the party further right. I like to be able to decide which candidate I think is best. Why are you scared of open primaries and ranked choice voting?

And legit vaccines have eliminated terrible diseases. Some should be mandatory for attendance at public and private schools.

These were Republican Party propositions. If you chose to vote in the Democrat primary you didn't see them.

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Look no farther than the Republican propositions to see what's wrong with the party. Let's all not take the measles vaccine! Wow

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Crazy thing happened back in 2020...you might have missed it.

As the story goes, the US government was funding a lab that was building super viruses and one of them got out in the open. The US government, in turn, started putting billions of dollars into a push to develop a vaccine and the creators of that vaccine were like....wooooahhhh we have safety standards chief, we can't do it that fast. Then the US government said, it's cool bro, we'll indemnify you in the event it starts hurting/killing people. Turns out it did hurt a lot of people in testing and the creators of the vaccines knew it. The people that would normally review that testing data and say no go on the vaccine were also getting paid crap loads of money by the creators of the vaccines so they thought...well...it's for the greater good - Vaccine go! Now, there were some normal citizens that said hey...something doesn't look right here...I don't want this vaccine. The government got wind of that and said look, you don't have to take the vaccine, but if you decide not to, your friends and family are going to die, we're going to lock you in your house, and your place of employment is going to have to fire you. So...you pick!

With all of that in mind, I think the proposition re: choice in vaccinations seems pretty tame.

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It's less freedom to have closed primaries and push the party further right. I like to be able to decide which candidate I think is best. Why are you scared of open primaries and ranked choice voting?

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The whole nation needs to move further right. Less federal government is better federal government.

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Look no farther than the Republican propositions to see what's wrong with the party. Let's all not take the measles vaccine! Wow

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Didn't see anywhere it listing specific vaccines. Last time I checked, we just went through a global epidemic in which a certain vaccine was pressed on folks which had no testing whatsoever.

I understand. I just don't like to see the party throwing out red meat like vaccines, election crimes, border invasion. How about we govern for all Texans and try to solve problems. Despite what many may think, this is what turns off many voters.

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I understand. I just don't like to see the party throwing out red meat like vaccines, election crimes, border invasion. How about we govern for all Texans and try to solve problems. Despite what many may think, this is what turns off many voters.

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What else do you call freedom of choice?

edited to calm myself down

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It's less freedom to have closed primaries and push the party further right. I like to be able to decide which candidate I think is best. Why are you scared of open primaries and ranked choice voting?

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There is no right to vote in a specific party's primary.

If the party wants to restrict it to registered members of the party, it has that right. Caucuses already work that way.

Oh, and what is your usual account here? You signed up in August 2022, and never posted until yesterday.

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Look no farther than the Republican propositions to see what's wrong with the party. Let's all not take the measles vaccine! Wow

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Come on now. Forcing schools to not require any vaccines just makes good sense. Leave it up to the parents to know/remember/choose to get their kids vaccinated for measles/polio/diptheria/whooping cough/mumps.

The trick is, to only have your kids attend a school where parents care enough and are engaged to be aware of these things.

I mean, no one is going to get polio again anyway, even if no one gets the vaccine.

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I understand. I just don't like to see the party throwing out red meat like vaccines, election crimes, border invasion. How about we govern for all Texans and try to solve problems. Despite what many may think, this is what turns off many voters.

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Wait, you consider medical freedom, election crimes, and border invasion to be "red meat" and not real problems that would help all Texans?

That just sounds insane on it's face unless your goal is for, what I would consider, the opposite of what originally made this country great.

Edit to add that I agree with your comment regarding open primaries and ranked choice voting. Those are better options in my opinion in the long run though they certainly can cause issues in the short run and leave openings for unethical antics.

I may have skipped all of them.

Were these propositions any more than taking the pulse of the party and/or virtue signaling to make it look like the party is doing something?

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ds00 said:

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Look no farther than the Republican propositions to see what's wrong with the party. Let's all not take the measles vaccine! Wow

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Come on now. Forcing schools to not require any vaccines just makes good sense. Leave it up to the parents to know/remember/choose to get their kids vaccinated for measles/polio/diptheria/whooping cough/mumps.

The trick is, to only have your kids attend a school where parents care enough and are engaged to be aware of these things.

I mean, no one is going to get polio again anyway, even if no one gets the vaccine.

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Laugh all you want, the forced vaccinations in Covid did more to move people to the anti-vaccination side of the fence than any other single event or study in history.

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I may have skipped all of them.

Were these propositions any more than taking the pulse of the party and/or virtue signaling to make it look like the party is doing something?

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Basically just asking Republican voters if they want the legislature to look into those issues in 2025.

This wouldn't have even been a ballot initiative if the government hadn't forced an experiment on the population. Before 2019 the vast majority of people trusted vaccines as they were heavily tested and had evidence to demonstrate they were safe.

People were being threatened and coerced into taking something that wasn't tested and was radically different then previous vaccines. Because of that heavy handed approach, we find ourselves here.

My guess is you were very supportive of these actions, so you only have yourself to blame.

I've never really looked into the passing of one of these things in the past.

Do they usually get this overwhelming yes vote? Wouldn't have thought so. These things have passed by huge margins.

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I've never really looked into the passing of one of these things in the past.

Do they usually get this overwhelming yes vote? Wouldn't have thought so. These things have passed by huge margins.

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I wonder what the numbers would look like if Prop 9 was already in place?!?!?

They typically have big support, yes... and then they take it back, let the attorneys in Austin convolute the hell out of it, make it impossible to vote on without a million loopholes, and pretend they're doing the work of the people.

These propositions, in conjunction with those passed by the resolutions committee at the state convention, serve as governing "instructions" from the grassroots - the voters who actually comprise the Republican Party of Texas - to the state's elected GOP leaders.

When it works like it's supposed to these propositions and resolutions set the legislative agenda (which includes getting state constitutional amendments on the general election ballot) for the state legislature.

If we didn't have RINOs like Dade Phelan in leadership positions a lot more of these governing "instructions" would get out committee and be voted on.

It's a sort of institutional way to poll the actual voting electorate since only party or issue activists tend to respond to other internal polling, which biases the responses. I would prefer if ALL primary activity was fully privatized. Political parties are private entities. Why are billions of tax dollars spent helping them poll their own membership?

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I've never really looked into the passing of one of these things in the past.

Do they usually get this overwhelming yes vote? Wouldn't have thought so. These things have passed by huge margins.

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Yes, because many of them come directly from the resolutions that Republican voters across the state have already approved by large majorities at the precinct, county, and state conventions.

Putting them on the primary ballot allows us to assess how closely the sentiments of the grassroots activists on these issues resembles that of the larger, general GOP electorate.

Usually it is very, very close.

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Look no farther than the Republican propositions to see what's wrong with the party. Let's all not take the measles vaccine! Wow

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Come on now. Forcing schools to not require any vaccines just makes good sense. Leave it up to the parents to know/remember/choose to get their kids vaccinated for measles/polio/diptheria/whooping cough/mumps.

The trick is, to only have your kids attend a school where parents care enough and are engaged to be aware of these things.

I mean, no one is going to get polio again anyway, even if no one gets the vaccine.

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Laugh all you want, the forced vaccinations in Covid did more to move people to the anti-vaccination side of the fence than other other single event or study in history.

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Im all for school choice. Perhaps we could have schools were no vaccinations are required and those that do. I'd be curious where parents choose to send their kids. Since of course they are all smart enough to understand the ramifications.

People being anti vax only because of COVID can pat themselves on the back all they want...until their kid contracts something and dies. Because at that point they can either accept that it was an unpreventable random occurrence, or live the rest of their lives questioning if getting them vaccinated would have saved them.

I guess if they believe the vaccine has a higher probability of negative effects than contracting the disease, then sure, let parents make that gamble. Give them the freedom to ignore 50+ years of data and hundreds of millions that safely received vaccines.

The popositions in on primary ballots are essentially just a survey. They are almost always worded in a way to make sure they pass overwhelmingly. The party bosses have decided what the party will focus on, and this is how they can say "we're just carrying out the will of the people" instead of admitting they're making these decisions on their own. This is not to imply that party members disagree with what the party is doing; I'm just pointing out that the leaders have made the decisions before asking for input while pretending not to.

It's kind of like when your boss makes a decision and then tries to convince his team that it was their decision.

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I was under the belief that those proposition polls are Republican primary only. Which if true means something like 90% of republicans that voted for president in the primary voted on the props.

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I was thinking along these lines too, but why would the Hou Chron only present the GOP propositions and not the DNC?

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And legit vaccines have eliminated terrible diseases.

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Like the wuhan vaccine? Did that eliminate a terrible disease?

I believe the Dems elected not to include any propositions on their primary ballots.

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Science Denier said:

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I've never really looked into the passing of one of these things in the past.

Do they usually get this overwhelming yes vote? Wouldn't have thought so. These things have passed by huge margins.

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I wonder what the numbers would look like if Prop 9 was already in place?!?!?

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Prop 9. Prop 1. Prop "all of them" passed by huge margins. The closest passed by only 72%. LOL.

But based on the replies, seems they usually pass by huge margins. I voted against 7, 8, 9, and 13. Why would 7 pass? WTF??? 76% voted for that one.

Do people just vote yes to everything without reading it? LOL, got a chuckle out of that one.

There is definitely a public interest in trying to maximize the use of tried, tested, and effective vaccines for damaging of deadly diseases. That should include vetted and legitimate information on the risks and benefits, to the individual and group. It should be an individual right to decide.

I also think individuals who decline vaccination for preventable communicable diseases should not expect public support or subsidy for treatment if they should contract such a disease.

There are very debilitating or dangerous diseases like Pertussis or polio or even measles that have safe and effective modern vaccines and it would be foolish to discourage people from using them, especially with bad sensational or junk information out there that misleads the public regarding some vaccines.

But the public should have a choice.

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Do people just vote yes to everything without reading it?

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Generally yes. We have the dumbest electorate in history...

Voted against 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 11.