What due process should he have received but did not get?aggiehawg said:
Damn! This judge keeps overstepping and trampling the law.LINKQuote:
A judge ordered Donald Trump's company Thursday to inform a court-appointed financial watchdog about any efforts to obtain an appeal bond.
Judge Arthur Engoron's order came three days after Trump's lawyers in an appeals court filing said it has been "impossible" so far for the former president to get such a bond for a civil business fraud case he lost.
Trump sought the bond to prevent New York Attorney General Letitia James as early as Monday collecting on a $454 million civil fraud judgment against him as he appeals the verdict in Manhattan Supreme Court.
His lawyers have said that more than 30 surety companies rejected writing a bond for Trump because they would not accept real estate as collateral.
Trump has asked the appeals court to pause the judgment from taking effect without having to secure a bond. That court has yet to rule on his request.
In his order Thursday, Engoron told the Trump Organization it must tell its financial overseer, Barbara Jones, "in advance, of any efforts to secure surety bonds."
Due process doesn't apply to Trump, I guess.
When does Trump have to pay $355 MM?
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Really? You do not understand what is going on here?Quote:
What due process should he have received but did not get?
Trump has the 1/2 billion dollar bond money.
Mark my words, the people that are behind taking advantage of our justice system to prosecute Trump will pay a heavy once the smoke clears.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-he-has-nearly-500m-cash-suggests-could-afford-bond-new-york-ag-case-slams-hack-judge
Mark my words, the people that are behind taking advantage of our justice system to prosecute Trump will pay a heavy once the smoke clears.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-he-has-nearly-500m-cash-suggests-could-afford-bond-new-york-ag-case-slams-hack-judge
Nothing new hereaggiehawg said:Really? You do not understand what is going on here?Quote:
What due process should he have received but did not get?
I certainly hope so
I understand that he can't get a bond and can't round up enough cash for escrow. Are those his only options? Is the court obligated to reduce the judgment to something that he can get a bond to cover?aggiehawg said:Really? You do not understand what is going on here?Quote:
What due process should he have received but did not get?
Or is it perhaps that the monitor is keeping a close eye on what he does?
Or something else?
Consider the sourceaggiehawg said:Really? You do not understand what is going on here?Quote:
What due process should he have received but did not get?
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
eric76 said:I understand that he can't get a bond and can't round up enough cash for escrow. Are those his only options? Is the court obligated to reduce the judgment to something that he can get a bond to cover?aggiehawg said:Really? You do not understand what is going on here?Quote:
What due process should he have received but did not get?
Or is it perhaps that the monitor is keeping a close eye on what he does?
Or something else?
How about the complete shredding of his seventh and eighth amendment rights?
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Good argument on 8th
Not on 7th
7th never been incorporated and this was not a case under common law, but statutory action for equitable relief
Not on 7th
7th never been incorporated and this was not a case under common law, but statutory action for equitable relief
What moves could the AG or Judge make that would give Trump a path to a Federal appeal?
Could there be anything about his NYC properties that cross state lines?
Could there be anything about his NYC properties that cross state lines?
He has operations in multiple states.
I don't see how he can get to federal court before exhausting his state court remedies, but happy to consider possibilities people have
I don't see how he can get to federal court before exhausting his state court remedies, but happy to consider possibilities people have
It's something else. This was all meant to interfere in the election and hinder Trump from campaigning. Nothing more.eric76 said:I understand that he can't get a bond and can't round up enough cash for escrow. Are those his only options? Is the court obligated to reduce the judgment to something that he can get a bond to cover?aggiehawg said:Really? You do not understand what is going on here?Quote:
What due process should he have received but did not get?
Or is it perhaps that the monitor is keeping a close eye on what he does?
Or something else?
And ironically, the AG here definitely has unclean hands. Talk about equity.BMX Bandit said:
Good argument on 8th
Not on 7th
7th never been incorporated and this was not a case under common law, but statutory action for equitable relief
None of the other amendments had been incorporated until they were...BMX Bandit said:
Good argument on 8th
Not on 7th
7th never been incorporated and this was not a case under common law, but statutory action for equitable relief
BMX Bandit said:
He has operations in multiple states.
I don't see how he can get to federal court before exhausting his state court remedies, but happy to consider possibilities people have
Just heard this get thrown around by the talking heads yesterday.
True, but even if it were incorporated tomorrow,doesn't apply here
If he does try to file in federal court for a temporary injunction, he'll have to do it today. Try to distinguish the Pennzoil case as much as possible.BMX Bandit said:
He has operations in multiple states.
I don't see how he can get to federal court before exhausting his state court remedies, but happy to consider possibilities people have
I know...hence the wink emoji.BMX Bandit said:
True, but even if it were incorporated tomorrow,doesn't apply here
aggiehawg said:If he does try to file in federal court for a temporary injunction, he'll have to do it today. Try to distinguish the Pennzoil case as much as possible.BMX Bandit said:
He has operations in multiple states.
I don't see how he can get to federal court before exhausting his state court remedies, but happy to consider possibilities people have
Could they grant an injunction while they consider it?
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Could they grant an injunction while they consider it?
Not if they follow the law.
The case she cited goes directly against Trump running to federal court
Unless, as she pointed out, they find a distinction
Barnyard96 said:
Unless, as she pointed out, they find a distinction
Id love to hear the distinction. Public v private company won't be relevant. I hope they did come up with one, but truth is they mostly likely won't
BMX Bandit said:Barnyard96 said:
Unless, as she pointed out, they find a distinction
Id love to hear the distinction. Public v private company won't be relevant. I hope they did come up with one, but truth is they mostly likely won't
State vs citizen compared to corp vs corp?
Can't they just hit them with a writ of hoc est fasciculum stercore?BMX Bandit said:Barnyard96 said:
Unless, as she pointed out, they find a distinction
Id love to hear the distinction. Public v private company won't be relevant. I hope they did come up with one, but truth is they mostly likely won't
Not sure that would work ultimately but the legal fiction that corporations are "persons" does have some limits.BMX Bandit said:Barnyard96 said:
Unless, as she pointed out, they find a distinction
Id love to hear the distinction. Public v private company won't be relevant. I hope they did come up with one, but truth is they mostly likely won't
What rights does a sole beneficiary of a trust have, for instance?
He does not. It's amazing.
Barnyard96 said:BMX Bandit said:Barnyard96 said:
Unless, as she pointed out, they find a distinction
Id love to hear the distinction. Public v private company won't be relevant. I hope they did come up with one, but truth is they mostly likely won't
State vs citizen compared to corp vs corp?
How is that relevant to comity?
Younger v Harris, on which Pennzoil v Texaco relies, is state v individual.
That was a 42 USC 1983 case, wasn't it? Harris was being prosecuted for criminal violatons and tried to assert a deprivation of his civil rights. That is distinguishable, in my view.BMX Bandit said:Barnyard96 said:BMX Bandit said:Barnyard96 said:
Unless, as she pointed out, they find a distinction
Id love to hear the distinction. Public v private company won't be relevant. I hope they did come up with one, but truth is they mostly likely won't
State vs citizen compared to corp vs corp?
How is that relevant to comity?
Younger v Harris, on which Pennzoil v Texaco relies, is state v individual.
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And now Democrat pundits are saying he should sell Mar-a-Lago to cover the $455 million fine he received because the judge said Mar-a-Lago was only actually worth $18 to $26.5 million.
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I'm not sure what year the judge was talking about Mar-A-Lago being only worth $18million, but would it have had to be way back and before massive improvements? Or the Judge is a liar.
Because the figure he came up with is a complete jokeRongagin71 said:
I'm not sure what year the judge was talking about Mar-A-Lago being only worth $18million, but would it have had to be way back and before massive improvements? Or the Judge is a liar.
READ THIS
https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2023/10/09/is-mar-a-lago-worth--1-billion--trump-s-winter-home-valuations-are-at-the-core-of-his-fraud-trial
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
Is the judge's finding of fact with regard to the valuation of Mar-a-lago arbitrary and capricious?
Neither it's absurdStat Monitor Repairman said:
Is the judge's finding of fact with regard to the valuation of Mar-a-lago arbitrary and capricious?
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain