BBRex said:
Old Army Metal said:
No Spin Ag said:
nortex97 said:
Old Army Metal said:
oh no said:
"Disinformation" probably! is that how it works, democrats?
Are you framing her attempts to retrieve her late husband's corpse in a timely manner as disinformation, or are you calling the fact of her being banned into question?
I'd probably trust the Russians when they say not to touch the corpse for a few days until the poison wears off. But that's just me.
Russia doesn't have the technology to pick up a body without getting themselves contaminated? I know Putin's Russia is a third world sheet hole, but I'd like to imagine they have hazmats.
I imagine they went old-school. Hard to hide getting beaten to death on an autopsy.
Honestly, that would seem easy to explain, if you wanted to. "This prison houses some of the country's most dangerous prisoners. A few were able to corner him, raped him, then beat him to death. These men don't care about politics. They just saw a new person to target." Done.
Poison or drugs or even hanging seem a lot more difficult to just explain away. I guess a guy like Putin wouldn't want to admit he doesn't have complete control of the prisons or anything else, so that puts him into a bit of a corner.
Polonium and Novichok as well as other exotic stuff based on ricin etc. go back through the 50's by the Russians/Soviets. Stalin and Lenin in their times were pretty brutal people too, as a certain axe attack on Trotsky comes to mind, in Mexico City.
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Russian intelligence officials have turned political poisonings into something of an art form. Soviet scientists are believed to have worked for decades to develop colourless and odourless poisons. According to an interview in 1954 with a KGB operative, the testing of poisons was carried out on living prisoners.
Whereas poisoning may seem like an archaic way to kill, observers have argued that it offers the advantage of being a discreet method of assassination. It can be carried out without immediate detection, allowing the perpetrator to flee the crime scene and offering the Kremlin plausible deniability.
The two poisonings most closely associated with Putin both occurred in the UK.
Russia's dark methods first came to international attention during the case of Alexander Litvinenko, a Putin opponent who died of polonium-210 poisoning in London in 2006. Shortly before his death, Litvinenko told journalists the FSB security service was still operating poison laboratories dating from the Soviet era. A British inquiry later concluded that Russian agents had killed Litvinenko, probably with Putin's approval.
More than a decade later, Sergei Skripal, a former Russian military intelligence officer who had become a double agent for the UK, survived a poisoning with a nerve agent called novichok in Salisbury. Novichok means "newcomer" and refers to a group of nerve agents developed by the Soviet Union in the 1970s and 80s to elude international restrictions on chemical weapons.
Shortly after the assassination attempt on Skripal, which later led to the death of another local resident, Dawn Sturgess, who inadvertently sprayed the novichok on her wrists, Putin labelled the double agent as a "traitor" and a "scumbag". In a separate interview not much later, Putin said he could forgive everything except for "treachery."
Moscow also enjoys a long history of going after members of the political opposition.
In August 2020, the opposition leader Alexei Navalny now jailed fell ill on a flight from Siberia to Moscow. Navalny was later flown to Germany for treatment, where doctors established that he had been poisoned with novichok.
I've listened to some pretty fascinating podcast a ways back about some of this. It's gruesome/terrifying but the short answer is there are practical considerations involved in killing people like this, as it allows the killer to leave without any alerts being active.
Oh by the way in just a 'small coincidence' Putin also brashly gave a big award to the
Russian prison system head honcho who likely tortured Navalny yesterday. These are not nice/good people.
