Was last nights clown show

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Hubert J. Farnsworth
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meant to take eyes off of the border and everything going on in the senate?
TA-OP
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Yeah that's some 63d level chess. Tell the whole world I'm senile and can't remember my dead son just so you stop looking at the border.
JohnLA762
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They are setting it up to slide in a candidate at the 11th hour. Now, who will that candidate be? Newsome, Hillary, Michelle?
LRHF
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JohnLA762 said:

They are setting it up to slide in a candidate at the 11th hour. Now, who will that candidate be? Newsome, Hillary, Michelle?


Gavin baby… it's going to be Gavin! Can't wait to see Trump destroy the Cali gov
BadMoonRisin
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The whole world, outside of the true believers, already knew that he was senile and he cant remember **** about Beau several years ago.

MouthBQ98
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No. It wasn't intended BUT the Democrats are extremely experienced with propaganda and spin and they know almost instinctively as a group (including their media allies) how to exploit and frame and spin any emerging event to distract from the most recent failure or error or bad news. They are opportunistic to the extreme, and being the party of the press, they have the resources to redirect much of the public narrative to the latest thing and then away from it to the next distraction.
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Planned or not, it was an epic disaster for Biden. He looked unpresidential, unhinged at times, and totally unfit for the job.

Either his staff panicked after reading the DOJ report and thought they needed to reassure the masses, or someone is setting him up to take him out.

If it was the former, it was a total failure. If it was the latter, it was a staggering success.
SouthTex99
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rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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LRHF said:

JohnLA762 said:

They are setting it up to slide in a candidate at the 11th hour. Now, who will that candidate be? Newsome, Hillary, Michelle?


Gavin baby… it's going to be Gavin! Can't wait to see Trump destroy the Cali gov
I think it will be Newsome. Everyone is sick of old presidents and they'll win because it will be young guy against another old fart.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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the powers that be are or were petrified of the tucker and putin interview. they tried to get out in front of it, multiple interviews with democrats bashing tucker before it aired by hillary clinton and others. this was a narrative they were not in control of and that caused panic.

they then rolled biden out knowing this would be the result. and it worked. i have seen more articles written today and more discussion on biden than the tucker putin interview.

at the end of the day this was allowed to happen to change the topic and take back control of the narrative. if americans actually woke up to what ukraine is really about there would be a much greater uproar.

big picture not sure if this is to get rid of biden which most will think or just to change the narrative. ultimately we saw nothing from biden we didn't already know, he is a dementia riddled fool.
aggie93
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There is simply no way they can spin last night as anything but a disaster. All Biden had to do was keep it together for a few minutes and speak coherently and he had multiple memory lapses while claiming he was fine. They will try of course but this one will be hard to gaslight because they made a big deal and had the PC.

Of course this also gave Trump an opening because it shows Biden's DOJ knows he committed a crime and are just not going to prosecute him while they are going full bore after Trump. The question is if Trump can take advantage of it and make a coherent argument instead of going off the rails with some new distraction. Best thing Trump can do is focus on the border and about how people are struggling financially. Maybe he can stick with the "If Biden wants to prove he is mentally competent let's debate next week for 90 minutes on Hannity" or something. He's not going to do it anyway so just rub it in.

The key is if he can stay focused or if he decides to bring up something completely unrelated and save Biden from the news cycles. The media will be looking for something, anything to do that with.
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SouthTex99 said:

I think Biden was pissed off and called a press conference. And to the surprise of no one it backfired. It is what it is.
And by "Biden" you mean Jill.

If the DNC wanted the soft swap, they'd have given the report a week and then had Joe announce that he was honoring the assessment and - while he still thinks he's fine, he understands the concerns & has full faith in his VP being ready to take the reigns.

I don't get it, but it seems the Dems are intent on weathering this storm to continue forth via this leaky senile vessel.
BQ78
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Is the mainstream media talking about it? No, well it didn't happen. And while Biden should have been finally alarming even the most disengaged voters, more people were watching Tucker Carlson.

Not sure this changes anything unless the Dems at the helm want it to.
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Well, I was also confused when I saw all those Egyptians streaming across the border. Anybody want to go get ice cream?
CyclingAg82
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It would be wise to remember Barack Obama's quote about Joe Biden… "Don't underestimate Joe's (Biden) ability to f*&k things up".

And know as we have all seen throughout his term that last night is just par for the course.
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I think this was knee-jerk reaction by the staff. Where do things go from here? Who knows...but I think it is increasingly likely that Biden is not on the ballots come November.
Shoefly!
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aggie93 said:

There is simply no way they can spin last night as anything but a disaster. All Biden had to do was keep it together for a few minutes and speak coherently and he had multiple memory lapses while claiming he was fine. They will try of course but this one will be hard to gaslight because they made a big deal and had the PC.

Of course this also gave Trump an opening because it shows Biden's DOJ knows he committed a crime and are just not going to prosecute him while they are going full bore after Trump. The question is if Trump can take advantage of it and make a coherent argument instead of going off the rails with some new distraction. Best thing Trump can do is focus on the border and about how people are struggling financially. Maybe he can stick with the "If Biden wants to prove he is mentally competent let's debate next week for 90 minutes on Hannity" or something. He's not going to do it anyway so just rub it in.

The key is if he can stay focused or if he decides to bring up something completely unrelated and save Biden from the news cycles. The media will be looking for something, anything to do that with.

The key to Biden having all the secret docs strung out in his home and no one's talking about, a Senator or VP are not qualified to have them.
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JohnLA762 said:

They are setting it up to slide in a candidate at the 11th hour. Now, who will that candidate be? Newsome, Hillary, Michelle?

Did you say "slide"?
one safe place
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aggie93 said:

There is simply no way they can spin last night as anything but a disaster. All Biden had to do was keep it together for a few minutes and speak coherently and he had multiple memory lapses while claiming he was fine. They will try of course but this one will be hard to gaslight because they made a big deal and had the PC.

Of course this also gave Trump an opening because it shows Biden's DOJ knows he committed a crime and are just not going to prosecute him while they are going full bore after Trump. The question is if Trump can take advantage of it and make a coherent argument instead of going off the rails with some new distraction. Best thing Trump can do is focus on the border and about how people are struggling financially. Maybe he can stick with the "If Biden wants to prove he is mentally competent let's debate next week for 90 minutes on Hannity" or something. He's not going to do it anyway so just rub it in.

The key is if he can stay focused or if he decides to bring up something completely unrelated and save Biden from the news cycles. The media will be looking for something, anything to do that with.
i agree it would be a good idea to challenge biden to a debate and Trump should predicate it on not only to discuss positions on matters but also state up front it will be to provide insight into biden's mental capacity.

If biden refuses the debate, it will reenforce the actuality that he is mentally incompetent, if he accepts the challenge it will be a disaster.

I wonder if the democrats would trot out obama, in white-face pretending to be biden, and have him say "look" and "here's the deal" and mention Beau often? The media would cover for them.

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Get Off My Lawn said:

SouthTex99 said:

I think Biden was pissed off and called a press conference. And to the surprise of no one it backfired. It is what it is.
And by "Biden" you mean Jill.

If the DNC wanted the soft swap, they'd have given the report a week and then had Joe announce that he was honoring the assessment and - while he still thinks he's fine, he understands the concerns & has full faith in his VP being ready to take the reigns.

I don't get it, but it seems the Dems are intent on weathering this storm to continue forth via this leaky senile vessel.
What other real choice do they have? Dems do not have a deep bench, not one that isn't also older, at least.

The actual political consulting class is fairly small. If there was any type of effort for Michelle to run, somebody would be hired and that would be known among that group. Ditto for most anyone else, right now.

Manchin is too old as well. Newsom is a lightweight with a horrible record in California. Whitmer brings nothing to the table either.

If Prizker (age 59) was going to helicopter in, there would be some exploratory meetings happening with the donor class.
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one safe place said:

aggie93 said:

There is simply no way they can spin last night as anything but a disaster. All Biden had to do was keep it together for a few minutes and speak coherently and he had multiple memory lapses while claiming he was fine. They will try of course but this one will be hard to gaslight because they made a big deal and had the PC.

Of course this also gave Trump an opening because it shows Biden's DOJ knows he committed a crime and are just not going to prosecute him while they are going full bore after Trump. The question is if Trump can take advantage of it and make a coherent argument instead of going off the rails with some new distraction. Best thing Trump can do is focus on the border and about how people are struggling financially. Maybe he can stick with the "If Biden wants to prove he is mentally competent let's debate next week for 90 minutes on Hannity" or something. He's not going to do it anyway so just rub it in.

The key is if he can stay focused or if he decides to bring up something completely unrelated and save Biden from the news cycles. The media will be looking for something, anything to do that with.
i agree it would be a good idea to challenge biden to a debate and Trump should predicate it on not only to discuss positions on matters but also state up front it will be to provide insight into biden's mental capacity.

If biden refuses the debate, it will reenforce the actuality that he is mentally incompetent, if he accepts the challenge it will be a disaster.

I wonder if the democrats would trot out obama, in white-face pretending to be biden, and have him say "look" and "here's the deal" and mention Beau often? The media would cover for them.


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aggiehawg said:

Get Off My Lawn said:

SouthTex99 said:

I think Biden was pissed off and called a press conference. And to the surprise of no one it backfired. It is what it is.
And by "Biden" you mean Jill.

If the DNC wanted the soft swap, they'd have given the report a week and then had Joe announce that he was honoring the assessment and - while he still thinks he's fine, he understands the concerns & has full faith in his VP being ready to take the reigns.

I don't get it, but it seems the Dems are intent on weathering this storm to continue forth via this leaky senile vessel.
What other real choice do they have? Dems do not have a deep bench, not one that isn't also older, at least.

The actual political consulting class is fairly small. If there was any type of effort for Michelle to run, somebody would be hired and that would be known among that group. Ditto for most anyone else, right now.

Manchin is too old as well. Newsom is a lightweight with a horrible record in California. Whitmer brings nothing to the table either.

If Prizker (age 59) was going to helicopter in, there would be some exploratory meetings happening with the donor class.
There is a school of thought that anyone with less baggage than Biden could beat Trump, so there will be folks who are interested in pursuing that, but the means to do it are limited.

I don't see a 25th amendment coup working. Even if Kamala got up the courage to initiate it, the cabinet is composed of a bunch of lackeys who are unlikely to agree with pushing Biden out, some due to loyalty, others due to fear that Kamala might fare even worse than Biden.

If Biden keeps wracking up committed delegates, then I don't think there is any way for the DNC to pull a switcheroo and nominate someone else at the convention, over Biden's objection. He could withdraw and toss it to the convention (or to the national committee if he withdrew post convention), but there is no indication that he will voluntarily withdraw.
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Man, I disagree. I think Trump destroys that effin clown. Everyone, even casuals, knows what a disaster Commifornia is. It's constantly on all news outlets, even the lefty ones, because of crime and so many companies leaving. He got recalled in his own state for **** sakes.
Kyle Field Shade Chaser
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Dems are moving to a new candidate. It's all timed up. You have liberal talking heads like Stephen A. Smith, Bill Mahr, Rogan, all turning on Biden. You have a plethera of big cities all the sudden complaining about illegals, and now the classified documents debacle tarnshing dimentia joe.

It's orchestrated to give them a chance to run another candidate. Gavin Newsome.
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TA-OP said:

Yeah that's some 63d level chess. Tell the whole world I'm senile and can't remember my dead son just so you stop looking at the border.
There's a very simple decision tree where you asked yourself whether you would vote for "I'm senile and can't remember my dead son just so you stop looking at the border" and were persuaded to do so by *checks notes* tweets that offended you.

Keep it up. If this is how you make decisions, I you will be very, very successful.
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If Biden keeps wracking up committed delegates, then I don't think there is any way for the DNC to pull a switcheroo and nominate someone else at the convention, over Biden's objection. He could withdraw and toss it to the convention (or to the national committee if he withdrew post convention), but there is no indication that he will voluntarily withdraw.
1968. Humphrey didn't start campaigning until late March that year after LBJ dropped out. At the convention, Humphrey had considerably fewer delegates (Get Clean for Gene had many more).

Yet, he received the nomination.

My prediction is that those delegates that Biden believes are in his back pocket already will not be when the convention rolls around. Will there be a consensus alternate candidate at that point, is the question.
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the news cycle is insanely fast these days, and there is selective lingering. along with all their other selections.
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LRHF said:

JohnLA762 said:

They are setting it up to slide in a candidate at the 11th hour. Now, who will that candidate be? Newsome, Hillary, Michelle?


Gavin baby… it's going to be Gavin! Can't wait to see Trump destroy the Cali gov
It's delusional to believe that Trump who LOST TO A 80 year old DEMENTIA PATIENT.

is going to beat good looking, 50 year old used car salesman Newsom.

Biden is beating Trump in Georgia and Arizona- give one good reason why Newsome would do worse in Arizona and Georgia than Biden did in 2020.

when he won both of them.

Trumpers love to say the exact same smack they were talking about how Trump would destroy Biden in the debates in 2020. which never happened.

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

meant to take eyes off of the border and everything going on in the senate?


I dont think you realize how dumb Biden's dei hired staff is. One of his high ups couldnt even recognize James OKeefe wearing glasses posing as a gay man looking for a date. DC isnt near on the level it once was.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

the powers that be are or were petrified of the tucker and putin interview. they tried to get out in front of it, multiple interviews with democrats bashing tucker before it aired by hillary clinton and others. this was a narrative they were not in control of and that caused panic.

they then rolled biden out knowing this would be the result. and it worked. i have seen more articles written today and more discussion on biden than the tucker putin interview.

at the end of the day this was allowed to happen to change the topic and take back control of the narrative. if americans actually woke up to what ukraine is really about there would be a much greater uproar.

big picture not sure if this is to get rid of biden which most will think or just to change the narrative. ultimately we saw nothing from biden we didn't already know, he is a dementia riddled fool.


Good thing this aired on TV once, and only people with rabbit ears caught the live broadcast, and now it's gone. Oh, wait …
one safe place
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Be hard I think for them to use the 25th to replace him. More likely he would be arrested for being drunk in public and he then be placed in Epstein's cell. A visit from Hillary with the cameras turned off and the problem is solved!
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Quote:

It's delusional to believe that Trump who LOST TO A 80 year old DEMENTIA PATIENT.

is going to beat good looking, 50 year old used car salesman Newsom.

Biden is beating Trump in Georgia and Arizona- give one good reason why Newsome would do worse in Arizona and Georgia than Biden did in 2020.

when he won both of them.

Trumpers love to say the exact same smack they were talking about how Trump would destroy Biden in the debates in 2020. which never happened.


STOP IT!
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Wait! Is anyone being serious when they say that Trump will beat Newsome? Even IF, if, the Dominion machines were on the up and up (spoiler….), Trump would get kicked in the nuts. Not on platform, not on record, but on pure Dem propaganda and emotion. Newsome will stand up straight, look like the real life embodiment of Bale's American Psycho role, and suburban moms will eat that **** up all day long.
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normalhorn
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Meanwhile, how does the conversation happen to get Biden rolled out of the Oval Office?
Personally, I think the ball is put in motion to bribe him, not with money, but with expectations that all of the crimes his piece of **** son has committed will be forgiven, ie evidence burned, in exchange for him "retiring" to "focus on family", which he's never shown any interest in before now
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