MS Society makes a 90-year-old volunteer step down over a question about pronouns

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OdessaAg
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The Inclusivity Geatapo strikes again
Fightin_Aggie
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Tanya 93 said:

I bet a significant minority majority of this country doesn't know what a pronoun is
Fifya

Only the grammar people know what that is
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misterguinness said:

Based on their financial statements, less than 20% goes to actual research. Just like with cancer organizations, they aren't interested in curing. That would be ending their cash cow.

Bureaucracies exist to perpetuate themselves. Anything else is subordinate to that goal.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill
PCC_80
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Quote:

Based on their financial statements, less than 20% goes to actual research. Just like with cancer organizations, they aren't interested in curing.
I think that this is what needs to be shouted from the rooftops. This has apparently become just another money raising organization that uses most of the money raised to maintain itself. These sort of orgs need to be put out of business. All that is required is to stop donating to them. Find better charities.
EMY92
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I will now refuse to donate to the MS society due to their egregious treatment of the elderly.
LOYAL AG
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This is incredibly disappointing. Riding this ride has been an insignificant but symbolic gesture in support of my mom and sister who both have MS. The couple of grand my friends and clients donate has been much appreciated by them. I'm riding this year and will reconsider after this one. Going to talk to my mom about it. She's a bit left of center but this is going to offend her. Then if the 20% number is true that's going to really eat her up. Anyone have a link to those financials?
The federal government was never meant to be this powerful.
94chem
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My name can be either male or female, so I use a single pronoun in communications to clarify. This new game has been helpful to me, but I bend the rules a bit.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
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94chem said:

My name can be either male or female, so I use a single pronoun in communications to clarify. This new game has been helpful to me, but I bend the rules a bit.
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I will allow it
redcrayon
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frenchtoast said:

I thank that lady for her years of service. It's a changing world.
So you support them banning her?
redcrayon
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https://nms2cdn.azureedge.net/cmssite/nationalmssociety/media/msnationalfiles/financials/2022-financial-statement.pdf?ext=.pdf
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94chem said:

My name can be either male or female, so I use a single pronoun in communications to clarify. This new game has been helpful to me, but I bend the rules a bit.
I get it in that situation, and when someone isn't immediately obvious which is pretty rare. The rest of the time, however....
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Tanya 93 said:

I bet a significant minority of this country doesn't know what a pronoun is



The only one they know is "I"
tamufan
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Financial from FY ending Sept 2022, from the annual report of the national ms society:

Total Operating Expenses: $168,648,465
Fundraising: $ 30,862,855
Management... $ 13,917,941
Research $ 30,400,823
Professional Ed & Training $ 6,791,475
Client & Community Svcs $ 46,140,446
Public Education $40,534,925

So Research 18%, Client Svcs 27%, Prof Ed & Training 4%.
Public Education 24%, Fundraising + Management 27%
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

it hasn't cost me anything yet but i don't play that game. i am not going to indulge their delusion.

It isn't just that.

The subverted goal is to make you adopt their belief system by making you use their words.

Sorry no, I refuse. When people ask me why I say you cannot require me to use words that support a belief I do not ascribe to.

It is the same as if I were to require everyone to use the words or phrases: "God, God bless you, in the name of the Father or Jesus died for your sins" in your speech every day. If I said it was offensive not to say those words when addressing me that would be requiring you to adopt my belief system.

But we can't do that and everyone would object to it if we/I did.

It is a form of infringing on our right to free speech.
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94chem said:

My name can be either male or female, so I use a single pronoun in communications to clarify. This new game has been helpful to me, but I bend the rules a bit.

I am 'misgendered' almost daily due to my name. Literally thousands of times over my life. I will still never tell people my pronouns, and due to the fact that I have been 'misgendered' so many times I know how pathetically weak those people who complain about being misgendered are
TexAgs91
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Like they say, the only thing this demonstrates is the MS Societie's non-inclusiveness
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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94chem
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Sea Speed said:

94chem said:

My name can be either male or female, so I use a single pronoun in communications to clarify. This new game has been helpful to me, but I bend the rules a bit.

I am 'misgendered' almost daily due to my name. Literally thousands of times over my life. I will still never tell people my pronouns, and due to the fact that I have been 'misgendered' so many times I know how pathetically weak those people who complain about being misgendered are


Well, when you write a note to your kid's teacher, and they write you back thinking you are his mom, and then the teacher meets my wife, and my wife gets upset with me because she gets credit/blame for something she didn't write...

...Also, I've used misgendering to my advantage many times. When I know I'm leaving a message for a man, they are far more likely to call me back if they think I'm female...and maybe hot.

One other problem is that I have a title, and it annoys me to have to drop it for "Mr." sometimes in professional settings so people will know I'm male.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
Sea Speed
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All of that stuff has happened to us. I meant im not going to put my pronouns on some work correspondence or something like that. I use it to me advantage when buying crap on marketplace all the time.
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Burdizzo said:

Tanya 93 said:

I bet a significant minority of this country doesn't know what a pronoun is



The only one they know is "I"


The pronouns I use to describe myself are, I, me, myself, and we (if I am including someone else.) Why would I talk about myself in third person by using he or him?
BlueTaze
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I'd love for a DEI rep to explain why we should not refer to anorexic people as "fat'? Just walk me thru the logic on the difference in self perception of anorexia and gender disphoria.
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LOYAL AG said:

This is incredibly disappointing. Riding this ride has been an insignificant but symbolic gesture in support of my mom and sister who both have MS. The couple of grand my friends and clients donate has been much appreciated by them. I'm riding this year and will reconsider after this one. Going to talk to my mom about it. She's a bit left of center but this is going to offend her. Then if the 20% number is true that's going to really eat her up. Anyone have a link to those financials?
I would encourage you to reconsider riding in THIS year's event. The volunteer and financial impact to this insane action by the MS Society should be severe and IMMEDIATE. Otherwise, these ideologues will make every excuse for the reason of your delayed non-participation other than the correct one.
MouthBQ98
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Some nutbag woke activist embedded within the bureaucracy there has taken the opportunity to virtue signal, and persecute an unbeliever or apostate to the new religion.
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Aggie Jurist said:

For the first time in my career I had to state 'my' pronouns. If I didn't need the income, I'd quit. I hate what we have become.


I'm not doing that bull****, EVER. Any employer that requires that can shove the job up their ass.
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Tanya 93 said:

I bet a significant minority of this country doesn't know what a pronoun is
It's a noun that has lost its amateur status. Duh.
frenchtoast
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redcrayon said:

frenchtoast said:

I thank that lady for her years of service. It's a changing world.
So you support them banning her?
Why would you think that?
LoudestWHOOP!
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

it hasn't cost me anything yet but i don't play that game. i am not going to indulge their delusion.
Just ask them their name and never use another pronoun with them until they scream!
El Gallo Blanco
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I despise anyone who uses pronouns or even plays this game. This insanity has got to stop. Poor woman.
El Gallo Blanco
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frenchtoast said:

redcrayon said:

frenchtoast said:

I thank that lady for her years of service. It's a changing world.
So you support them banning her?
Why would you think that?
Because your response is so dismissive of this absolute insanity. You just blow it off. These people are garbage...anyone who plays along with this pronoun game.
ME92
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94chem said:

Sea Speed said:

94chem said:

My name can be either male or female, so I use a single pronoun in communications to clarify. This new game has been helpful to me, but I bend the rules a bit.

I am 'misgendered' almost daily due to my name. Literally thousands of times over my life. I will still never tell people my pronouns, and due to the fact that I have been 'misgendered' so many times I know how pathetically weak those people who complain about being misgendered are


Well, when you write a note to your kid's teacher, and they write you back thinking you are his mom, and then the teacher meets my wife, and my wife gets upset with me because she gets credit/blame for something she didn't write...

...Also, I've used misgendering to my advantage many times. When I know I'm leaving a message for a man, they are far more likely to call me back if they think I'm female...and maybe hot.

One other problem is that I have a title, and it annoys me to have to drop it for "Mr." sometimes in professional settings so people will know I'm male.
There are so many things to unpack from this post but I just can't be that mean.
Burdizzo
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A boy named Sue
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C@LAg said:

TTUArmy said:

Tanya 93 said:

I bet a significant minority of this country doesn't know what a pronoun is
Even fewer know how to use proper punctuation.
Less
Tech grad, give them a little credit for trying..
annie88
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Now they are tripling down. Over this ridiculousness they are going to screw over the people with MS in a drop of donations. This is just insane.

And shocker. They know what they're doing is wrong, and they know people are going to get pissed off. He's deleting the BOD.

Currently a happy listless vessel and deplorable. #FDEMS TRUMP 2024.
Fight Fight Fight.
CDUB98
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**** these people.
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annie88 said:

This argument isn't about whether a 90-year-old woman should still be volunteering or not. The woman sounds extremely competent, more than Biden.

The left just will not stop with this bull***** I hope this organization is absolutely shamed into firing this dumb employee, who apparently didn't even have the mental capacity to understand a question, and was so ready to be offended and correcting this crap. I'm sure their donations are about to drop off big time.

Now it may be a very good organization and hopefully this is just a few idiots doing this crap, but this publicity is not going to be kind to them. Nor should it be.

She simply asked a question. The pronoun stuff is such bull**** anyway. She had been volunteering at this place for 60 years.


Good for her! It sucks they fired her but the minute somebody calls me on using the wrong pronoun, I'll retire. If that were my mother, I'd probably be on the evening news. Nothing infuriates me more than a-holes and pronoun police.
jrdaustin
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So for 75 years, the MS Society advanced one vision - A world free of MS.


Until this year, when advancing that one vision was eclipsed by a new vision.... Advancing DEI principles.

Donors take note.
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